ieatcrayonz Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Wrong and overreaching Famous last words for a lot of people that now reside in Federal Prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Dude businesses don't get much more public than the NFL. Literally everything about them is reported. They are definitely obliged to report stuff like this promptly and the Feds don't screw around lately with Sox. Sox is short for Sarbanes Oxley. I'm not sure who would be punished but the Feds have a wide net. Goodell, Wilson, the Chiefs owner and possibly Gonzalez would be in trouble, at least potentially. No team in the NFL is publicly traded though. So the Act does not apply in any situation. Each NFL team is technically privately held and the Feds apply the Baseball antitrust legal theory to it in any event. The only thing a team has to report is that which is mandated by the league. thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I would go as low as a 2nd rounder to get this done. How high would you go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtoe Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Dude businesses don't get much more public than the NFL. Literally everything about them is reported. They are definitely obliged to report stuff like this promptly and the Feds don't screw around lately with Sox. Sox is short for Sarbanes Oxley. I'm not sure who would be punished but the Feds have a wide net. Goodell, Wilson, the Chiefs owner and possibly Gonzalez would be in trouble, at least potentially. Wikipedia Definition "The legislation establishes new or enhanced standards for all U.S. public company boards, management, and public accounting firms. It does not apply to privately held companies. " Not that Wikipedia is a definitive authority, but this is consistent with my understanding. So, unless he is traded to the Packers, it is not relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndZoneCrew Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 zip it douches.....give me some Gonzo information or shut it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I would go as low as a 2nd rounder to get this done. I agree, even though you'd have to go all the way back to 2000 to find a Buffalo-drafted second round bust (Travares Tillman). A second-round pick for the most productive tight end in NFL history is not bad, even if it is only for 2.75 seasons. But I am really hoping he can be had for a third and fifth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I don't know if this already has been posted, but, for what it is worth, PFT reported that Herm Edwards' regular 3:00 p.m. press conference has been pushed back to 4:00 p.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 zip it douches.....give me some Gonzo information or shut it yes sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Wikipedia Definition "The legislation establishes new or enhanced standards for all U.S. public company boards, management, and public accounting firms. It does not apply to privately held companies. " Not that Wikipedia is a definitive authority, but this is consistent with my understanding. So, unless he is traded to the Packers, it is not relevant. +5 I believe though the actual amount could be higher. Void in CT and NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 There are several increased TV exposure leading to increased exploitation of the marketplace (ie more $) that Gonzales is likely considering if this is a major drive for his ultimate decision: 1. The Toronto deal made by the Bills: One of the big deliverables for a well-regarded player is that he likely would become in Buffalo a face which we use as a wedge in the Bills attempts to exploit the Canadian marketplace. If Gonzales were to come to Buffalo, the Bills will almost certainly use him (and deliver him lots of dollars in the process) as a focal point for selling the product in Canada. The Tony Gonzales show on CBC (or some other Canadian network) would be a definite if this trade gets done. This would be the wedge to Gonzales getting deals to be the spokesmodel for auto dealers, pizza places and whatever he chooses in Toronto. 2. Steve Tasker demonstrates what can be done with the Buffalo market. It ain't national press but the money is still green. Could Gonzales make more going to NYC? Maybe and almost certainly, but this does not mean that by going to Buffalo he makes nothing and most important from the Tasker example does not mean that he writes off getting a national network gig. 3. Competition is key and there will be far more competition for endorsements in NYC with the Gints than in Buffalo. If Gonzales goes to NYC he is definitely below Eli Manning in sales and importance and actually behind even non-player Coughlin and a perhaps a host of other Gints who have exploited the marketplace. Gonzalez almost upon arrival is like the 20,000 fans who showed on a winter day at the Ralph for the Buffalo welcomes Bledose gig. He is the top choice for market opportunities with unproven youngsters like Whitner and Edwards being the primary other options. The Buffalo marketplace is smaller by far than NYC but is an open field for Gonzales and with modern electronics and travel reducing distances to near nothing it not only is a jumping off point (as shown by Tasker) to a national spot but is a starting point for trolling the unexploited Canadian dollar. 4. Being Latino is a natural for exploiting a multi-cultural marketplace like Toronto and an embrace of multi-culturalism which has been a centerpiece of the Canadian way going back to its decision to legally include a distinct culture in Quebec. The US is moving this way by force as the population demographics of this country will make the gringos a minority by mid century, but by choosing to primarily exploit the US marketplace Gonzales will choose to pick and choose his opportunities while the current prevailing culture fights to retain a primacy which it will ultimately lose demographically anyway. As far the Canadian market goes exploitation of it will simply involve the difficult task of riding the wave headed in his direction. 5. Nothing succeeds like success. If Gonzalez comes to Buffalo he MAY (and probably will) be part of a team which improves by making the playoffs for the first time. If he goes to the Gints this team at best (and probably won't) reach the same level as last year by winning the SB. It will be a great thing for Gonzales individually if the Jints win the SB. The plugging in of TG into the Shockey spot will be an important addition, but there is simply no way the result will improve with him in place. You might be over thinking this a bit. A future Hall-of-Famer is nearing the end of his career on a real bad team. He wants to play on a contending team his last years in the league. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABills08 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 What did Shockey trade for? Btw, if Moss goes for a 4th rounder. TG shouldn't go for anything more than a 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I don't know if this already has been posted, but, for what it is worth, PFT reported that Herm Edwards' regular 3:00 p.m. press conference has been pushed back to 4:00 p.m. Hummmmmm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Dude businesses don't get much more public than the NFL. Literally everything about them is reported. They are definitely obliged to report stuff like this promptly and the Feds don't screw around lately with Sox. Sox is short for Sarbanes Oxley. I'm not sure who would be punished but the Feds have a wide net. Goodell, Wilson, the Chiefs owner and possibly Gonzalez would be in trouble, at least potentially. There may be some pre-emption if the information has to cross state lines, and state disclosure laws may apply first. You may want to check that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HudsonValleyBillsFan Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 FYi The fan 660 in New York said it was 50/50 that gonzales would be dealt to the bills today. For what its worth. They didnt even mention the giants. Seems like talks are at least still on going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 MIKE FLORIO UPDATE: For what it is worth.... EDWARDS’ PRESS CONFERENCE MOVEDPosted by Mike Florio on October 14, 2008, 12:11 p.m. EDT It might mean something. Then again, it might mean nothing. The Chiefs have announced that Herm Edwards’ press conference has been moved from 3:00 p.m. EDT to 4:00 p.m. EDT. The timing is significant because the trade deadline is 4:00 p.m. EDT. Our guess is that the Chiefs want to have Edwards available in the event that he’s needed for any negotiations or strategery sessions from 3:00 until 4:00. Or, possibly, they’re working on something and they want to have the extra time to get it done (or not get it done) before Edwards meets the media. Three Chiefs currently are known to be on the block — tight end Tony Gonzalez, running back Larry Johnson, and (per Jay Glazer during his Monday spot with Whitlock on Rome) linebacker Napoleon Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 There may be some pre-emption if the information has to cross state lines, and state disclosure laws may apply first. You may want to check that. state law cannot preempt federal law. professional sports have exemptions as well, which is why they are allowed to compete against each other but still collude to control the prices etc of how the leagues are run. remember the baseball exemption congress threatened to take away during steriods issue? that applies to NFL too. BTW No updates? anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 state law cannot preempt federal law. professional sports have exemptions as well, which is why they are allowed to compete against each other but still collude to control the prices etc of how the leagues are run. remember the baseball exemption congress threatened to take away during steriods issue? that applies to NFL too. BTW No updates? anyone? Crossing state lines makes it a FEDERAL OFFENSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellDressed Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I have pics of Gonzalez's anal shoes doin a tap dance to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Crossing state lines makes it a FEDERAL OFFENSE. whats the crime exactly? crossing state lines is what allows the feds to write a law governing that conduct, it is not a crime itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 zip it douches.....give me some Gonzo information or shut it Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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