Chilly Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Don't see anything on http://www.rotonews.com/football/ which he claims is his source, so I don't think its true. Oh, and my antivirus program went crazy when I went there, ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 jerry gray must be laughing his ass off right now! he is not even officially fired and all of the defensive coordinators got gobbled up because of the bills lack of urgency hiring their head coach.and not even giving haslett a chance to interview for at least the defensive coordinator job and miami picks up a dom capers to run their d and donnie henederson gets a new gig we would be crazy lucky to have ted cotrell back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D' men Posted January 27, 2006 Author Share Posted January 27, 2006 You do realize that BillsDaily.com isnt a reliable news source in terms of finding out scoops, right? They just post the news that other sites report. 585246[/snapback] Well I didn't know that but in some cases that site updates events faster than twobillsdrive.com by more than 5-10 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 What is rotonews and why are you so shocked??? 585244[/snapback] It's a fantasy site, and not all that reliable from what I have seen, although they seem more likely to report what other people are reporting that just make up rumors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Brady Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Houstons DC position is already set. 585229[/snapback] Then why would they be talking about it on nfl sirius today,,,,,I do have a wicked cold so don't beat me to hard......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I don't think an sports analyzer would just blowing smoke 'cause there has been no announcement. 585122[/snapback] You haven't follow JC have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Houstons DC position is already set. 585229[/snapback] I have been a little out of the loop lately.....who is the Texans DC? I live in Austin, just yesterday morning, they were talking about the very subject, and mentioned Jerry Gray and Jim Bates as the two most likely candidates...fill me in? Also, who is the Jets d-coordinator? I know that it is blasphamous the last couple of days, on the wall, to suggest that our owner is cheap, but I hate to say I told you so...Bates was never going to come to Buffalo! I would not be shocked, when the numbers come out, if Bates makes almost as much this year from the Packers, sitting , than Dick Jauron makes this year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 "On defense, Kubiak will likely split coordinator duties between Frank Bush and Richard Smith, assuming Bush is able to get out of his contract with the Cardinals. Both Bush and Smith are familiar coaching in the Houston area, as each spent time with the Oilers." http://www.houstonprofootball.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 http://www.houstonprofootball.com/ 585278[/snapback] Lori, you are the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Did you ever consider he doesn't really want the Buffalo job (city, weather, team, who knows why?) and is asking for stupid money just to see what happensPTR 585196[/snapback] City, weather, team...these are his complaints coming from Green Bay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Mom Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 If he doesn't take the DC job who will? If no one volunteers, I'll take the job for free. 585162[/snapback] Me too. My defense picks in Madden are always solid. I am very good at adapting the scheme to the personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Me too. My defense picks in Madden are always solid. I am very good at adapting the scheme to the personnel. 585282[/snapback] Ohhh, is that how it's supposed to work? I just blitz on every play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 jerry gray must be laughing his ass off right now! he is not even officially fired and all of the defensive coordinators got gobbled up because of the bills lack of urgency hiring their head coach.and not even giving haslett a chance to interview for at least the defensive coordinator job and miami picks up a dom capers to run their d and donnie henederson gets a new gig we would be crazy lucky to have ted cotrell back 585248[/snapback] According to Fred Smerlas, who claims to speak with Haslett everyday, Haslett wanted the Bills HC job, so bad, he would have taken it, even at a low-ball price...he would have not taken the DC job in Buffalo, for a low-ball price. Smerlas said that RW pays his head coaches "next to nothing" and his assistants "nothing"! And then, of course, fat Fred lobbied to get the Bills color job for radio broadcasts, but only if the "price is right!" I have to believe that Gray would likely be pretty pissed off at the Bills right now. I don't really like the job he has done, overall, but I think the Bills sort of ambiguous stance on him had to hurt his chances of getting more interviews, and maybe a job. I know he won't lose any money, but they could at least treat him with some dignity...what would be really embarassing is if the Bills are forced to bring him back next season, because they can't get anyone else.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alg Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 All I can tell you is what I heard.......Houston , better city , alot more money, and an owner that knows what the going rate is for DC......Hell mcnair actually knows what day of the week it is ........The better question is why would he pick Buff., would you if you were him??? If my name was Bates it would be Houston here I come!!! 585174[/snapback] You obviously have not lived in Houston. Maybe national perception has it that its better then Buffalo, but nothing could be further from the truth. The weather has all the advantages of a swamp, traffic is the equal of LA's mobile parking lot, and the city itself has all the charm of a strip mall. Actually, slightly less charm then a strip mall... And BTW, I'm being kind in case there are any Houstonians reading this. I've lived all across this country, and still I have a hard time figuring out why actual Bills fans continue to dis the fine city of Buffalo. Yea, hang all the politicians and cut the dang taxes in half for sure, but the city itself is far more liveable then most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 You obviously have not lived in Houston. Maybe national perception has it that its better then Buffalo, but nothing could be further from the truth. The weather has all the advantages of a swamp, traffic is the equal of LA's mobile parking lot, and the city itself has all the charm of a strip mall. Actually, slightly less charm then a strip mall... And BTW, I'm being kind in case there are any Houstonians reading this. I've lived all across this country, and still I have a hard time figuring out why actual Bills fans continue to dis the fine city of Buffalo. Yea, hang all the politicians and cut the dang taxes in half for sure, but the city itself is far more liveable then most. 585287[/snapback] they have better lookin' broads, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 If this is indeed true, I am going to post again my idea for DC. Mike Singletary for the job. He is not only one of the best LBs of all time, but one of the best players in the entire NFL ever! PERIOD. I say forget Bates and bring in Singletary! 585240[/snapback] Seems to be an important ingredient......just ask Bart Starr, Ted Williams and Isaiah Thomas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I'd really like to know what the Bills were offering him. If it was more than the $750K he was scheduled to make from the Pack, screw him. If he thinks that he'll definitely get a better offer next year, much less a HC position (ha!), he's deluding himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D' men Posted January 27, 2006 Author Share Posted January 27, 2006 I have been a little out of the loop lately.....who is the Texans DC? I live in Austin, just yesterday morning, they were talking about the very subject, and mentioned Jerry Gray and Jim Bates as the two most likely candidates...fill me in? Also, who is the Jets d-coordinator? I know that it is blasphamous the last couple of days, on the wall, to suggest that our owner is cheap, but I hate to say I told you so...Bates was never going to come to Buffalo! I would not be shocked, when the numbers come out, if Bates makes almost as much this year from the Packers, sitting , than Dick Jauron makes this year.... 585272[/snapback] Maybe the Texans pick up Gray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30dive Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Clayton, like all of these talking heads has to come up with something to talk about every day, a couple times a day. He had Haslett coming here ...90% was the figure I think I heard. These guys, Clayton, Mort.., etc. can say anything they want, it is all a guess, even when "sources close the team/league" are foot noted to their report it is still just a guess, speculation, chuming the football fan waters if you will. And regarding picking Houston over Buffalo, or Buffalo over Houston....C'mon folks these guys can find really nice homes to live in, schools to send there kids to, in any NFL city. It is about the job and the fit/people and dare I say the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Here's the thing. What Bates is asking for is likely to be more than what Jauron is making, and that can't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbh10128 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 From what I understand, Bates is getting $750K from the Packers each of the next 2 years. He already rejected $1M a year from the Rams. I'd have to think the Bills are offering him that much. He'd be a fool to turn down a $250K raise and be under the radar for a year, hoping for a good gig next year. 585112[/snapback] be a bigger fool to come to buffalo and join a staff of losers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 You obviously have not lived in Houston. Maybe national perception has it that its better then Buffalo, but nothing could be further from the truth. The weather has all the advantages of a swamp, traffic is the equal of LA's mobile parking lot, and the city itself has all the charm of a strip mall. Actually, slightly less charm then a strip mall... And BTW, I'm being kind in case there are any Houstonians reading this. 585287[/snapback] My wife is originally from Houston with virtually all of her family still in the area. Last time we were there was this past Thanksgiving. Houston may not be as bad as you portray it, but it's pretty darn close. It's a big city with very little to offer in the "charm" or "quaint" categories. In fact, my wife prefers Bflo over Houston and has even said that if I wanted move back she'd be all for it - weather and economy be damned. Aside from authentic Mexican and Tex-Mex cuisine, Houston just doesn't have much to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 be a bigger fool to come to buffalo and join a staff of losers Well that's one opinion, and you know what they say opinions are like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Well, it looks as though the Bates hiring is far from a done deal. With that being said, I would be a HUGE fan of bringing in Mike Singletary for the job. While I would be on board with that, I'm having a hard time imagining The Samurai wanting anything to do with this league-wide joke of an organization right now. He's a smart man and would probably rather not be associated with this circus act (kinda like Mularkey, Wyche, Bates, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 He knows defense and what it takes to be successful. He is a great teacher as well. I don't know how many of you guys saw the piece yesterday on the NFL Network where he was coaching at the Senior Bowl, but it was a great illustration of his coaching technique and his ability to teach. He is a great coach. I think if given a chance, he can not only be a fantastic DC in this league, but he may turn out to be a FANTASTIC Head Coach in this League someday! I say forget Bates and bring in Singletary! 585240[/snapback] I saw yesterday's piece on NFL Network. He's intense. He's a motivator. He demands perfection. He knows what it takes. Outstanding watching him work with those LBs, and I was thinking the same thing as you. The only nagging question I have is...can he pull it all together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 El Chepo Ralph strikes again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Seems to be an important ingredient......just ask Bart Starr, Ted Williamsand Isaiah Thomas... 585309[/snapback] I gotta defend Teddy Ballgame here. He was a great player, an extremely intelligent baseball guy, and a decent manager on teams with little talent. If you've read any of his books you would be amazed at the method to his madness and just how well he knew the game of baseball and the art of hitting. Great talent, great mind, great guy...crazy kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVSplit Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Gene Chisik from University of Texas and DC!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 According to Fred Smerlas, who claims to speak with Haslett everyday, Haslett wanted the Bills HC job, so bad, he would have taken it, even at a low-ball price...he would have not taken the DC job in Buffalo, for a low-ball price. Smerlas said that RW pays his head coaches "next to nothing" and his assistants "nothing"! And then, of course, fat Fred lobbied to get the Bills color job for radio broadcasts, but only if the "price is right!" I have to believe that Gray would likely be pretty pissed off at the Bills right now. I don't really like the job he has done, overall, but I think the Bills sort of ambiguous stance on him had to hurt his chances of getting more interviews, and maybe a job. I know he won't lose any money, but they could at least treat him with some dignity...what would be really embarassing is if the Bills are forced to bring him back next season, because they can't get anyone else.... 585286[/snapback] Why are we still discussing the Haslett for HC or DC? Doesn't anyone recall his comments ('roids) in which he insinuated that two of the Bills most liked players (Hull and Hansen) were indirectly referenced as users? I would not be surprised if Ralph and now Marv do.... Haslett - crazy player who once kicked (albeit rather poorly) Terry Bradshaw in the head...........let it go............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Snippet from the article by Mark in Buffalo News...right at the end of the article, it says as of Thursday evening, Bates was still undecided.... Meanwhile, the Bills still were waiting to hear if former Green Bay assistant Jim Bates was going to become their defensive coordinator. A representative for Bates said Thursday evening the coach still was "mulling things over." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I gotta defend Teddy Ballgame here. He was a great player, an extremely intelligent baseball guy, and a decent manager on teams with little talent. If you've read any of his books you would be amazed at the method to his madness and just how well he knew the game of baseball and the art of hitting. Great talent, great mind, great guy...crazy kids 585390[/snapback] While I agree with much of what you have stated, I was just trying to imply that "greatness" on the field doesn't necassarily translate to the coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 While I agree with much of what you have stated, I was just trying to imply that "greatness" on the field doesn't necassarily translate to the coaching. 585444[/snapback] Check out the piece NFL Network did on him yesterday if you have a chance. There's no doubt in my mind he's a fine coach after seeing him work at the Sr. Bowl. Still doubts about him as a DC, but not as a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 While I agree with much of what you have stated, I was just trying to imply that "greatness" on the field doesn't necassarily translate to the coaching. 585444[/snapback] And I totally agree with you that greatness doesnt reflect coaching skills, which we've seen numerous times throughout history. However, I still believe that Ted Williams was a much better manager and coach than his record with 2 expansion teams indicate. No coach can make a career .230 hitter a .300 hitter, but a good coach can teach a .230 hitter to be a .250 hitter. The problem for Ted was he was given a team full of .230 hitters and was expected to turn them into champions. Sorry I'm just a big advocate of Ted Williams, especially after reading his book about hitting. I learned a lot and my batting average improved .78 from my final fall season of college ball to my final spring season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I gotta defend Teddy Ballgame here. He was a great player, an extremely intelligent baseball guy, and a decent manager on teams with little talent. If you've read any of his books you would be amazed at the method to his madness and just how well he knew the game of baseball and the art of hitting. Great talent, great mind, great guy...crazy kids 585390[/snapback] Hasn't Teddy (or various parts of him) been preserved? Maybe we could get his head, transplant it onto Posey's body (which is preserved from not doing much this year) and have him be defensive co-ordinator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 "mulling things over."[/b][/i] 585430[/snapback] In other words, hoping the Raiders/Texans will make him an offer since he'd rather work somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Check out the piece NFL Network did on him yesterday if you have a chance. There's no doubt in my mind he's a fine coach after seeing him work at the Sr. Bowl. Still doubts about him as a DC, but not as a coach. 585449[/snapback] I will look for that. Hey, no doubting MS is a fiery competitor who was an all-time great. And, by the way, I wouldn't mind having that "fire" on our sidelines. Maybe with some seasoning...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 And I totally agree with you that greatness doesnt reflect coaching skills, which we've seen numerous times throughout history. However, I still believe that Ted Williams was a much better manager and coach than his record with 2 expansion teams indicate. No coach can make a career .230 hitter a .300 hitter, but a good coach can teach a .230 hitter to be a .250 hitter. The problem for Ted was he was given a team full of .230 hitters and was expected to turn them into champions. Sorry I'm just a big advocate of Ted Williams, especially after reading his book about hitting. I learned a lot and my batting average improved .78 from my final fall season of college ball to my final spring season. 585455[/snapback] I'm with you, brother. I'm not knocking the Splendid Splinter, I'm a big fan myself. Though I haven't read his book, I've often heard how others have benefitted from his teachings. You're proof of that. He done learned you somethin'....which is pretty cool. Must've been nice taking his "word" to the field of play and making it work for you. That's good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Douche bag...f** him PTR 585116[/snapback] You ever turn down a job offer because you didn't want to work for the company?? I don't think Bates is interested in the Bills and is hoping to land with another team. If his heart's not in it, why bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I say Bates might sign with the Buffalo Bills. Difference between Clayton and everyone here, he is getting paid rather well for opinions on a now crap sports network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASCI Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 mulling things over= counter offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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