There’s something different about McD this season…

[Avisan]

3 minutes ago, QB Bills said:

That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen posted here

We're a consistent contender with Allen, but we're still a perennial playoff team with a top 10 QB and a #1 WR, and frankly it's ridiculous how much some of you insist on pretending otherwise

[philholbroo]

10 hours ago, balln said:

He’s fine. I think we (Josh Allen) win big games in spite of him mostly. 
 

Eye test. The defense is the worst it’s ever been. There are no consistently great players. Too many injuries

they have also seemed unprepared for the team they are playing each weeks 1st half, which is really the burden of the head coach and what he is looking to do each week.

[Buffalo716]

24 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Cincy is just a poor comparison all around because they have terrible ownership that refuses to spend money. Pegula gives McDermott and Beane blank checks every year. I don't buy this narrative that Cincy's problems stem from paying Chase and Higgins. If anything the criticism is that they should have paid them one year sooner, and that again goes back to cheap ownership. I mean Cincy right now has $11M in cap space... We're spending right to our limit every year. They have $79M in projected cap space in 2026.

 

I also don't buy that the Bengals have failed Burrow. He is just flat out injury prone. He takes normal NFL hits and misses almost half of his career from them. It's not like they've had trouble scoring points whether with Burrow or one of his backups over the years. That WR tandem is a cheat code that more than makes up for whatever deficiencies exist on offense. As far as their defensive struggles that is partly because of cheap ownership and partly because of poor drafting the last few years.

 

You're not going to sell me on the narrative that the Bengals invested too much in their superstar WR tandem. The other issues that exist there are completely independent of that.

 

Justin Herbert has been sacked the same amount of times as Josh Allen in two less seasons lol

 

And the chargers have gone nowhere in the playoffs and are not going anywhere this year... Protecting your quarterback is Paramount too

 

The best corners cannot cover NFL wide receiver for four or five seconds consistently...  If You don't have a line who could give your quarterback 3 seconds consistently you're not doing anything in the playoffs

 

Dan Marino and Philip Rivers had plenty of talented offenses around them for years.. like 40 years of combined football and one Super bowl appearance combined 

 

It takes a lot more than just a good high flying offense .. Josh is on the same Peyton Manning trajectory and he didn't go to his first Super bowl till he was 30

 

The bills have a team in place that is still getting better.. it has not peaked... And it can win multiple ways ... It does not rely on Josh Allen to be a superstar 60 minutes straight like it did 5 years ago 

 

There is a salary cap.. and unless beane is just going to throw first round picks at wide receivers which is a crap shoot picking 28... And we don't have 98 million to pay a free agent wide receiver

 

This team is built to win multiple ways which is how you win in January 

 

We could get better wide receivers but Brandon has to draft them better in the late first or second or third round... Has nothing to do with McDermott 

 

And yes if you said top five receiver core or a top five offensive line.. taking the top five offensive line every single time

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Buffalo716

[BillytheKid]

Josh Allen is going to make McDermott the first ever coach and QB combo to win a Super Bowl after 5 seasons together. Another first and record for Josh Allen. 

[Coach Tuesday]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Justin Herbert has been sacked the same amount of times as Josh Allen in two less seasons lol

 

And the chargers have gone nowhere in the playoffs and are not going anywhere this year... Protecting your quarterback is Paramount too

 

The best corners cannot cover NFL wide receiver for four or five seconds consistently...  If You don't have a line who could give your quarterback 3 seconds consistently you're not doing anything in the playoffs

 

Dan Marino and Philip Rivers had plenty of talented offenses around them for years.. like 40 years of combined football and one Super bowl appearance combined 

 

It takes a lot more than just a good high flying offense .. Josh is on the same Peyton Manning trajectory and he didn't go to his first Super bowl till he was 30

 

The bills have a team in place that is still getting better.. it has not peaked... And it can win multiple ways ... It does not rely on Josh Allen to be a superstar 60 minutes straight like it did 5 years ago 

 

There is a salary cap.. and unless beane is just going to throw first round picks at wide receivers which is a crap shoot picking 28... And we don't have 98 million to pay a free agent wide receiver

 

This team is built to win multiple ways which is how you win in January 

 

We could get better wide receivers but Brandon has to draft them better in the late first or second or third round... Has nothing to do with McDermott 

 

And yes if you said top five receiver core or a top five offensive line.. taking the top five offensive line every single time

 

 

You keep setting up strawmen.  Nobody is saying that they shouldn’t be balanced.  Nobody is saying that McD is the worst coach in the league.  There are other threads on this forum giving Beane his flowers for Poyer, the Cook extension, Hawes and the o-line.  What we are criticizing are those 2-3 moves and decisions each offseason that prioritize other parts of the roster - mainly interior D line depth or safety or second running back - over taking a chance on more perimeter skill players to ALSO take pressure of Josh Allen.  It’s not just about picking better players it’s about spreading out your bets and taking more chances - they just haven’t done enough of that at WR and it’s frankly not even debatable and to @HappyDays point even THEY likely now know it which will be proven in the offseason when they FINALLY try something different.  But it is totally fine to be frustrated that they didn’t change their approach earlier - especially given how the AFC has shaken out this year.

[Buffalo716]

10 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

You keep setting up strawmen.  Nobody is saying that they shouldn’t be balanced.  Nobody is saying that McD is the worst coach in the league.  There are other threads on this forum giving Beane his flowers for Poyer, the Cook extension, Hawes and the o-line.  What we are criticizing are those 2-3 moves and decisions each offseason that prioritize other parts of the roster - mainly interior D line depth or safety or second running back - over taking a chance on more perimeter skill players to ALSO take pressure of Josh Allen.  It’s not just about picking better players it’s about spreading out your bets and taking more chances - they just haven’t done enough of that at WR and it’s frankly not even debatable and to @HappyDays point even THEY likely now know it which will be proven in the offseason when they FINALLY try something different.  But it is totally fine to be frustrated that they didn’t change their approach earlier - especially given how the AFC has shaken out this year.

That's literally on the general manager 

 

It has nothing to do with our coach.. he is not the de facto judge jury and executioner 

 

He does not run the Buffalo Bills like Bill belichick ran the Patriots 

 

Brandon brings in the groceries Sean Cooks them... Sean certainly does not scout college wide receivers enough to know who's the buat and who's the gem 

 

And he certainly doesn't tell Brandon bring in the worst wide receivers possible lol

 

I'm pretty sure Sean says give me better wide receivers Brandon brings in guys who are not as good as he thinks

 

And despite that we still are one of the most varied tough to stop offenses in the NFL.. Brandon needs to hit on a second round pick wide receiver that's not on Sean McDermott

 

Sean is doing a great coaching job with this roster but he doesn't bring in the players they wouldn't be paying brandon millions of dollars if he did

 

To blame Sean for the lack of wide receivers is crazy because I'm 100% certain he would take better ones... The difference is years ago Brandon brought in Cole Beasley stefon diggs and John Brown and Emanuel Sanders and drafted gabe

 

he's never replicated that .. Sean can only work with what he has

Edited 1 hour ago by Buffalo716

[Puckman5]

11 hours ago, eball said:

…and I don’t mean the eyeglasses.  I know he has always talked about the Bills being a “tough” football team, but he has really ramped up the toughness aspect in nearly every locker room speech or interview I’ve seen.  It’s almost as if he has single-handedly willed this team to be mentally and physically tough.  He knows he already had that guy in 17, but the entire team has now taken on the mentality of overcoming adversity through toughness.  I view it as yet another progression in Sean’s growth as a leader and head coach.

 

What's the punch line?

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

It's a shame that this regime inexplicably chose to lean away from Allen's greatness in this 2nd window rebuild, but hopefully they've learned from the entirely predictable mistake and will pull a 180 in the coming offseason whether we win the Super Bowl or not

You say this every year lol. It ain’t gonna happen.

[Joe Ferguson]

He's going to punt on 4th and short in the playoffs. This aggredsive coaching is very misleading in the regular season.

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, Avisan said:

We're a consistent contender with Allen, but we're still a perennial playoff team with a top 10 QB and a #1 WR, and frankly it's ridiculous how much some of you insist on pretending otherwise

lol what evidence do you have that McD is any better than a Mike McCarthy

[GoBills808]

21 minutes ago, FireChans said:

You say this every year lol. It ain’t gonna happen.

YES IT WILL 

[BigDingus]

Sure, he says the same things about toughness after every game, but he says the other usual cliches after every game too.

 

"All three phases playing together!"

 

"Never quit."

 

"Buffalo Bills style football!" 

 

"Organizational win!"

 

"Stay humble!"

 

"Something positive about the 2nd half coming together!" 

 

That's about all I can remember, but his speeches usually go the same way each time, followed by Josh coming in with a smirk, man of few words, then capping it off with "Win on 3! ONE-TWO-THREE-WIN!" 

[Avisan]

9 minutes ago, FireChans said:

lol what evidence do you have that McD is any better than a Mike McCarthy

I mean Mike McCarthy was a very good head coach for a solid stretch in there, he fell off hard after the 2016 season with 4 out of 7 seasons below .500 and poor postseason showings as head coach of the Cowboys.

 

I think McDermott is more adaptable than McCarthy and more likely to make changes when not getting desired results.  McCarthy failed to adjust as the game evolved and does not come across as a particularly strong leader of men.  The Bills under McDermott are resilient and players vocally like playing for the team, even after having left the Bills.

 

If McDermott's Bills start posting sub-.500 regular season records and/or start getting regularly bounced out of the Wild Card round with prime Allen playing, I'll be fully on board with him getting fired and a new regime getting brought in.

[JohnNord]

12 hours ago, eball said:

…and I don’t mean the eyeglasses.  I know he has always talked about the Bills being a “tough” football team, but he has really ramped up the toughness aspect in nearly every locker room speech or interview I’ve seen.  It’s almost as if he has single-handedly willed this team to be mentally and physically tough.  He knows he already had that guy in 17, but the entire team has now taken on the mentality of overcoming adversity through toughness.  I view it as yet another progression in Sean’s growth as a leader and head coach.

 

People want to trash McDermott and blame him for everything but he’s done a very good coaching job this season.  
 

I feel that internally they expected the defense to struggle with younger players needing to contribute.   What they didn’t factor in was veterans like Rapp and Bernard struggling as bad as they did and the numerous injuries on the DL.  
 

We all know what the biggest problem.  It’s the lack of talent at WR to stretch the field vertically.  That’s not as much of a McDermott problem as much as it Beane and Brady.  

 

28 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

He's going to punt on 4th and short in the playoffs. This aggredsive coaching is very misleading in the regular season.

Not really… Watch the AFCCG last season.  

[Einstein's Dog]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

It's a shame that this regime inexplicably chose to lean away from Allen's greatness in this 2nd window rebuild, but hopefully they've learned from the entirely predictable mistake and will pull a 180 in the coming offseason whether we win the Super Bowl or not.

 

You're claiming the regime is leaning away from Josh but it can easily be explained.  The Diggs situation brought about a unique situation.  They did draft Coleman - and I think he was slated as WR2.  They brought in A Cooper, so last year they weren't leaving Allen totally bare.

 

The last offseason was a miss on WR.  The ugly Palmer deal.  But once again tried to rectify it early season.  This WR group would be much better with Waddle here.  Beane said he tried.  It could have been their plan all along that failed to materialize.

 

So the alledged second window has really only been two years and in one of those years they did bring in A Cooper.