A Few Thoughts about the Bengals Game - Community Edition

[Virgil]

Not to steal @Just Jack's thunder, but I'd like to think that I willed the Bills to win by starting this write up a few minutes before the Benford pick six.  I was at my second thought, seething about our defense and what McD brings to the table if his defense sucks, and then we score 21 points in four minutes.  Did the win talk me off the ledge?  A little.  Do many games come down to a few plays?  Yes.  Are we severely injured?  Yes.  Even with all of that, I'm just tired of us not showing up for the games until half time.

 

1 - Hold my beer - I have this image in my head of McD talking to Benford, asking if he's okay coving the most explosive receiver in the NFL, and Benford just smirking at him.  McD then pulls him aside again, asking for a spark, to which Benford gets the first sack of the game.  Lastly, watching the time expire and the Bengals seemingly getting their offensive momentum back, Benford goes pure Thanos "Fine, I'll do it myself," and gets the pick six.  I mean honestly, while we have Superman on the offense, we apparently now have Batman on the defense.  To completely shut down Chase so much that they had to move him to the slot just so he could get a catch is insane.  That pick six, while shaking off a dejected Burrow on his way to the end zone, while Chase got to play defender and lose...wow.   To know that we can now take away the opposing teams main receiver is a huge boost to the defense and brings Beane's success rate up to 50% for offseason extensions.   

 

2- Superman likes it cold - In a game where we saw masterful throws by both QB's, Josh showed off what sets himself apart from the rest of the elite.  Running Josh is back and it was beautiful.  Not only did he show elusiveness in the backfield, he showed speed on the long td run, and elusiveness on the final 3rd and 15 game sealing run.  I also believe that Josh plays better when Knox is more involved in the game plan.  In a game where the receivers again weren't a focal point, Josh put up over 300 total yards and 4 touchdowns.  He out-dueled a Burrow who played a monster game.

 

3 - Rushing attack - Cook picked a really bad time in the season to get a case of fumbleitis.  The fumble into the endzone could have been the dagger in this game.  You could feel the energy leave the stadium until Josh's 40 yard touchdown run.  Cook ran good outside of that, but not enough to compensate for the mistake.  As for the rest of the backs, I don't understand why Davis didn't see more touches.  Ty Johnson had two big mistakes on the first drive, as he slipped on a clear TD run.  Then, on the 3rd and 2 near the goal line, Johnson made no attempt to sell the handoff run on the option play.  

 

4 - Receivers - Two games in a row now where the receivers are almost non-existent.  Yes, Coleman and Shakir each caught a touchdown, but the receivers were mainly irrelevant.  Gabe led the receivers in snaps, which I assume is more for his blocking ability.  I do appreciate that Coleman isn't being handed back his snap count share.  It would have been nice to see us take some shots deep, as the Bengals were playing only one safety deep for most of the game.  I also liked to see Cooks getting in on the blocking action on Josh's long td run.

 

5 - Burrow - I don't know the last time I've seen a QB make so many touch throws look effortless.  The Bengals carved up the Bills defense on the first three drives.  Yes, a lot of that was on the Bills defense with their soft zone.  However, Burrow made a lot of high point throws where he gave his receivers the opportunity to make a play, and they responded kindly.  There were quite a few passes where I don't know how the Bills defender could have covered any better, and the receiver just made a play.  However, the Fitzpatrick curse got to Burrow with those two interceptions.  On both, I don't know why he made either throw.  Benford was right in front of him and Phillips had his arm up in his face on both throws.  

 

6 - Defense - I can understand the defensive game plan of wanting to respect the run and prevent the big play.  But you can't just give Burrow all day to throw.  Groot and AJ are incapable of rushing the passer and we were only able to generate pressure when we blitzed.  However, you can also tell we don't practice blitzes enough because there were some massive coverage gaps due to communication in the secondary when we did.  Third downs were as abysmal as ever.  Our run defense was good enough, but it was overall a rough day for Cam, TJ, and Tre.  Poyer appeared to be playing well and I'm hoping Bishop's injury isn't anything serious.  From a comparison standpoint, the Bills had to convert multiple 4th downs in the first half, and we were overall outplayed by the Bengals defense in that half.  That's unacceptable.  

 

7 - Special Teams - Prater picked a good day to not miss an extra point.  Our KO units were an opportunity.  We gave up multiple returns past the 30 while we struggled to get back to the 20 on multiple kick-offs.  Not sure what the issue is here, but I feel like this unit has been very up and down this season.

 

8 - Spencer - Hopefully he can come back healthy soon, because Van Demark had a rough day.  Not only did he have two holding penalties, but he was beat both inside and out throughout the game.  Most of Josh's pressure came from his side.  Granted, we survived, but I don't know if he should even be a primary back up for us, as he looks lost out there at times.  

 

9 - Gesicki - I'm sorry, but ***** him.  I can understand players getting hyped after a good play, but he seemed to be really relishing in his success out there.  Maybe it's from his Dolphins tenure, but I felt like he was taunting us all game.  His catch on the Bengals last drive was a killer on Cam and he had an overall good game. But again, ***** him.

 

10 - Chicken or the Egg - Should out to Knox for putting up numbers we haven't seen in years.  This is the type of game that I believe Knox is very capable of having more of.  I know he's had his share of drops and is a better blocker than Kincaid, but I feel like we need to try and have more gameplays like this.  Knox and Kincaid running free is very difficult to defend, occupies the safeties, makes play action more effective, and makes the running game so much better.  Now, was this a result of the Bengals defense being comically bad against the Tight Ends?  Maybe.  Either way, Knox is a capable playmaker and I hope to see more of it.  

 

Bonus - Did we find out why McD burned a TO prior to an extra point?  And don't think I forgot about his other wasted TO before a 3rd and short, that the Bengals ultimately converted.

 

 

We are on to the most meaningful game left on our schedule with the Pats. We are either going to be in the hunt for the division after this next game, or trying to lock up the wild card so we can take week 18 off.  With the Broncos winning, the 1 seed seems very unlikely, so hopefully we can get things sorted out prior to week 18.  

 

Go Bills!!!!

[ScottishBills]

Great summary. Overall whilst a bunch of the same complaints I have had for most of the season were still right there for all to see - this felt a bit different in the end. 

 

The D is still mash, but they are back to getting takeaways 

 

And more importantly Josh has flipped the switch. Very clearly. And that makes me feel like we are right back to where we usually are - which is a punchers chance in any game anywhere any time. 

 

Bring it on

 

Now for the Steelers and Chargers to find a couple more wins each and keep the Ravens and Chiefs out of the way 

Edited 1 hour ago by ScottishBills

[Marv Levy]

7 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 Bonus - Did we find out why McD burned a TO prior to an extra point?  And don't think I forgot about his other wasted TO before a 3rd and short, that the Bengals ultimately converted.

THIS! I was wondering out loud why the hell he would do this? If it accomplished anything, I really don't know what it was?! Seemed like a gigantic waste of a TO.

[Roundybout]

I really don’t like how we let them score so easily on their last drive. That was absurd. 
 

We’re lucky that Taylor bafflingly did not try an onside kick. It would have been a butt clencher. 

[Low Positive]

11 - This is how it was always going to be - When the Bengals get even moderate QB play, they make plays and score points. The only time that wasn't true was their final two games with Flacco, where you could tell they had given up a bit. But they were reenergized with the return of Burrow, and were playing with their entire offense for the first time since week 2. There is no world where the Bills could have played defense in a way that could prevent them from making big plays. Two of Burrow's TD passes (1st to Higgins and the one to Brown) were defended well. They just made a play. Blaming the Bills defense for that would be like blaming the Bengals defense for that pass to Shakir. Sometimes the other team makes big plays in big games. The task for the Bills was to shut down Chase (which they did), and stick around long enough to be around to pick up the pieces when the Bengals inevitably broke their fans' hearts yet again. 

[Low Positive]

3 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

I really don’t like how we let them score so easily on their last drive. That was absurd. 
 

We’re lucky that Taylor bafflingly did not try an onside kick. It would have been a butt clencher. 

I was mad about the easy completion to Gesicki, but the actual TD pass was Burrow and Higgins making a play. The Bills didn't "let" him make a one-handed catch while falling backwards. He was covered and made a play anyway. 

[Low Positive]

12 minutes ago, Marv Levy said:

THIS! I was wondering out loud why the hell he would do this? If it accomplished anything, I really don't know what it was?! Seemed like a gigantic waste of a TO.

The whole team and stadium were going nuts, celebrating. But the play clock continued to tick. It was either take the TO, or take a delay of game and make the PAT longer. And the point mattered more than the TO in that moment, because it made the lead 4 instead of 3. You could argue it's his job to keep the team from celebrating, but that's easy for me to say from my couch. 

[Ga boy]

24 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Not to steal @Just Jack's thunder, but I'd like to think that I willed the Bills to win by starting this write up a few minutes before the Benford pick six.  I was at my second thought, seething about our defense and what McD brings to the table if his defense sucks, and then we score 21 points in four minutes.  Did the win talk me off the ledge?  A little.  Do many games come down to a few plays?  Yes.  Are we severely injured?  Yes.  Even with all of that, I'm just tired of us not showing up for the games until half time.

 

1 - Hold my beer - I have this image in my head of McD talking to Benford, asking if he's okay coving the most explosive receiver in the NFL, and Benford just smirking at him.  McD then pulls him aside again, asking for a spark, to which Benford gets the first sack of the game.  Lastly, watching the time expire and the Bengals seemingly getting their offensive momentum back, Benford goes pure Thanos "Fine, I'll do it myself," and gets the pick six.  I mean honestly, while we have Superman on the offense, we apparently now have Batman on the defense.  To completely shut down Chase so much that they had to move him to the slot just so he could get a catch is insane.  That pick six, while shaking off a dejected Burrow on his way to the end zone, while Chase got to play defender and lose...wow.   To know that we can now take away the opposing teams main receiver is a huge boost to the defense and brings Beane's success rate up to 50% for offseason extensions.   

 

2- Superman likes it cold - In a game where we saw masterful throws by both QB's, Josh showed off what sets himself apart from the rest of the elite.  Running Josh is back and it was beautiful.  Not only did he show elusiveness in the backfield, he showed speed on the long td run, and elusiveness on the final 3rd and 15 game sealing run.  I also believe that Josh plays better when Knox is more involved in the game plan.  In a game where the receivers again weren't a focal point, Josh put up over 300 total yards and 4 touchdowns.  He out-dueled a Burrow who played a monster game.

 

3 - Rushing attack - Cook picked a really bad time in the season to get a case of fumbleitis.  The fumble into the endzone could have been the dagger in this game.  You could feel the energy leave the stadium until Josh's 40 yard touchdown run.  Cook ran good outside of that, but not enough to compensate for the mistake.  As for the rest of the backs, I don't understand why Davis didn't see more touches.  Ty Johnson had two big mistakes on the first drive, as he slipped on a clear TD run.  Then, on the 3rd and 2 near the goal line, Johnson made no attempt to sell the handoff run on the option play.  

 

4 - Receivers - Two games in a row now where the receivers are almost non-existent.  Yes, Coleman and Shakir each caught a touchdown, but the receivers were mainly irrelevant.  Gabe led the receivers in snaps, which I assume is more for his blocking ability.  I do appreciate that Coleman isn't being handed back his snap count share.  It would have been nice to see us take some shots deep, as the Bengals were playing only one safety deep for most of the game.  I also liked to see Cooks getting in on the blocking action on Josh's long td run.

 

5 - Burrow - I don't know the last time I've seen a QB make so many touch throws look effortless.  The Bengals carved up the Bills defense on the first three drives.  Yes, a lot of that was on the Bills defense with their soft zone.  However, Burrow made a lot of high point throws where he gave his receivers the opportunity to make a play, and they responded kindly.  There were quite a few passes where I don't know how the Bills defender could have covered any better, and the receiver just made a play.  However, the Fitzpatrick curse got to Burrow with those two interceptions.  On both, I don't know why he made either throw.  Benford was right in front of him and Phillips had his arm up in his face on both throws.  

 

6 - Defense - I can understand the defensive game plan of wanting to respect the run and prevent the big play.  But you can't just give Burrow all day to throw.  Groot and AJ are incapable of rushing the passer and we were only able to generate pressure when we blitzed.  However, you can also tell we don't practice blitzes enough because there were some massive coverage gaps due to communication in the secondary when we did.  Third downs were as abysmal as ever.  Our run defense was good enough, but it was overall a rough day for Cam, TJ, and Tre.  Poyer appeared to be playing well and I'm hoping Bishop's injury isn't anything serious.  From a comparison standpoint, the Bills had to convert multiple 4th downs in the first half, and we were overall outplayed by the Bengals defense in that half.  That's unacceptable.  

 

7 - Special Teams - Prater picked a good day to not miss an extra point.  Our KO units were an opportunity.  We gave up multiple returns past the 30 while we struggled to get back to the 20 on multiple kick-offs.  Not sure what the issue is here, but I feel like this unit has been very up and down this season.

 

8 - Spencer - Hopefully he can come back healthy soon, because Van Demark had a rough day.  Not only did he have two holding penalties, but he was beat both inside and out throughout the game.  Most of Josh's pressure came from his side.  Granted, we survived, but I don't know if he should even be a primary back up for us, as he looks lost out there at times.  

 

9 - Gesicki - I'm sorry, but ***** him.  I can understand players getting hyped after a good play, but he seemed to be really relishing in his success out there.  Maybe it's from his Dolphins tenure, but I felt like he was taunting us all game.  His catch on the Bengals last drive was a killer on Cam and he had an overall good game. But again, ***** him.

 

10 - Chicken or the Egg - Should out to Knox for putting up numbers we haven't seen in years.  This is the type of game that I believe Knox is very capable of having more of.  I know he's had his share of drops and is a better blocker than Kincaid, but I feel like we need to try and have more gameplays like this.  Knox and Kincaid running free is very difficult to defend, occupies the safeties, makes play action more effective, and makes the running game so much better.  Now, was this a result of the Bengals defense being comically bad against the Tight Ends?  Maybe.  Either way, Knox is a capable playmaker and I hope to see more of it.  

 

Bonus - Did we find out why McD burned a TO prior to an extra point?  And don't think I forgot about his other wasted TO before a 3rd and short, that the Bengals ultimately converted.

 

 

We are on to the most meaningful game left on our schedule with the Pats. We are either going to be in the hunt for the division after this next game, or trying to lock up the wild card so we can take week 18 off.  With the Broncos winning, the 1 seed seems very unlikely, so hopefully we can get things sorted out prior to week 18.  

 

Go Bills!!!!

I would say Benford is Spider-Man.  He spun a web for Burrow then leaped and glued that tater.  Fans have been complaining about JA17 not running.  I think through 12 games they’ve been saving him for now, which is essentially playoff mode. 

[zow2]

Josh needs to be decisive like he was yesterday.  Stick his foot in the ground, take off straight through the gap.  Don't dance around too much inside the pocket.

 

Special Teams, same thing.  They were very deliberate on those kickoff returns yesterday.  Get the ball and GO, stop slowing down waiting for blocks that will never happen.

 

It's just bizarre that Knox can work himself open all over the field.. but our faster WRs just struggle mightily to make themselves available for Allen to get them the ball.

 

Can't give great QBs like Burrow time to scan the field.  The extra coverage doesn't matter when he has time to pick and choose.  Should've blitzed more in the first half when they couldn't get off the field.   Allen has the special gift of great running, so when you blitz him you better get him.

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, zow2 said:

Josh needs to be decisive like he was yesterday.  Stick his foot in the ground, take off straight through the gap.  Don't dance around too much inside the pocket.

 

Special Teams, same thing.  They were very deliberate on those kickoff returns yesterday.  Get the ball and GO, stop slowing down waiting for blocks that will never happen.

 

It's just bizarre than Knox can work himself open all over the field.. but our faster WRs just struggle mightily to make themselves available for Allen to get them the ball.

 

Can't give great QBs like Burrow time to scan the field.  The extra coverage doesn't matter when he has time to pick and choose.  Should've blitzed more in the first half when they couldn't get off the field.   Allen has the special gift of great running, so when you blitz him you better get him.

The biggest weakness of the Bengals weak defense is the LBs and safeties, so attacking the middle of the field with TEs was a smart move. 

[PoundingDog]

24 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Bonus - Did we find out why McD burned a TO prior to an extra point?  And don't think I forgot about his other wasted TO before a 3rd and short, that the Bengals ultimately converted.

They were going to be a delay of the game 5 yard penalty of the extra point. You can argue what matters of 5 yards for a kicker. I'm with McDermott that for Prater, it matters and 4 point lead vs 3 point lead is huge.

 

Someone pointed out on the TO for the 3rd and short, the defense alignment was going to have Chase uncovered. Ultimately it resulted #39 on Chase to the sideline, but you'd never want to leave Chase uncovered fora potential TD.

20 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

We’re lucky that Taylor bafflingly did not try an onside kick

There is really no good choice when you know your defense can't stop the other team. But the onside kick chance is so low, it is really not worth it. taylor almost got what he's hoping for which is getting Bills to 3rd and 15... I actually was hoping for play-action on the 1st down. and Kudos to Josh holding onto the ball on the 2nd down sack (not throwing the ball away to stop the clock). I'm pretty sure had Josh not getting the 1st but close, McD might go for it.  

[Marcus Aurelius]

Awesome  ...

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A Few Thoughts about the Bengals Game - PRIVATE Edition

[SoonerBillsFan]

38 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Not to steal @Just Jack's thunder, but I'd like to think that I willed the Bills to win by starting this write up a few minutes before the Benford pick six.  I was at my second thought, seething about our defense and what McD brings to the table if his defense sucks, and then we score 21 points in four minutes.  Did the win talk me off the ledge?  A little.  Do many games come down to a few plays?  Yes.  Are we severely injured?  Yes.  Even with all of that, I'm just tired of us not showing up for the games until half time.

 

1 - Hold my beer - I have this image in my head of McD talking to Benford, asking if he's okay coving the most explosive receiver in the NFL, and Benford just smirking at him.  McD then pulls him aside again, asking for a spark, to which Benford gets the first sack of the game.  Lastly, watching the time expire and the Bengals seemingly getting their offensive momentum back, Benford goes pure Thanos "Fine, I'll do it myself," and gets the pick six.  I mean honestly, while we have Superman on the offense, we apparently now have Batman on the defense.  To completely shut down Chase so much that they had to move him to the slot just so he could get a catch is insane.  That pick six, while shaking off a dejected Burrow on his way to the end zone, while Chase got to play defender and lose...wow.   To know that we can now take away the opposing teams main receiver is a huge boost to the defense and brings Beane's success rate up to 50% for offseason extensions.   

 

2- Superman likes it cold - In a game where we saw masterful throws by both QB's, Josh showed off what sets himself apart from the rest of the elite.  Running Josh is back and it was beautiful.  Not only did he show elusiveness in the backfield, he showed speed on the long td run, and elusiveness on the final 3rd and 15 game sealing run.  I also believe that Josh plays better when Knox is more involved in the game plan.  In a game where the receivers again weren't a focal point, Josh put up over 300 total yards and 4 touchdowns.  He out-dueled a Burrow who played a monster game.

 

3 - Rushing attack - Cook picked a really bad time in the season to get a case of fumbleitis.  The fumble into the endzone could have been the dagger in this game.  You could feel the energy leave the stadium until Josh's 40 yard touchdown run.  Cook ran good outside of that, but not enough to compensate for the mistake.  As for the rest of the backs, I don't understand why Davis didn't see more touches.  Ty Johnson had two big mistakes on the first drive, as he slipped on a clear TD run.  Then, on the 3rd and 2 near the goal line, Johnson made no attempt to sell the handoff run on the option play.  

 

4 - Receivers - Two games in a row now where the receivers are almost non-existent.  Yes, Coleman and Shakir each caught a touchdown, but the receivers were mainly irrelevant.  Gabe led the receivers in snaps, which I assume is more for his blocking ability.  I do appreciate that Coleman isn't being handed back his snap count share.  It would have been nice to see us take some shots deep, as the Bengals were playing only one safety deep for most of the game.  I also liked to see Cooks getting in on the blocking action on Josh's long td run.

 

5 - Burrow - I don't know the last time I've seen a QB make so many touch throws look effortless.  The Bengals carved up the Bills defense on the first three drives.  Yes, a lot of that was on the Bills defense with their soft zone.  However, Burrow made a lot of high point throws where he gave his receivers the opportunity to make a play, and they responded kindly.  There were quite a few passes where I don't know how the Bills defender could have covered any better, and the receiver just made a play.  However, the Fitzpatrick curse got to Burrow with those two interceptions.  On both, I don't know why he made either throw.  Benford was right in front of him and Phillips had his arm up in his face on both throws.  

 

6 - Defense - I can understand the defensive game plan of wanting to respect the run and prevent the big play.  But you can't just give Burrow all day to throw.  Groot and AJ are incapable of rushing the passer and we were only able to generate pressure when we blitzed.  However, you can also tell we don't practice blitzes enough because there were some massive coverage gaps due to communication in the secondary when we did.  Third downs were as abysmal as ever.  Our run defense was good enough, but it was overall a rough day for Cam, TJ, and Tre.  Poyer appeared to be playing well and I'm hoping Bishop's injury isn't anything serious.  From a comparison standpoint, the Bills had to convert multiple 4th downs in the first half, and we were overall outplayed by the Bengals defense in that half.  That's unacceptable.  

 

7 - Special Teams - Prater picked a good day to not miss an extra point.  Our KO units were an opportunity.  We gave up multiple returns past the 30 while we struggled to get back to the 20 on multiple kick-offs.  Not sure what the issue is here, but I feel like this unit has been very up and down this season.

 

8 - Spencer - Hopefully he can come back healthy soon, because Van Demark had a rough day.  Not only did he have two holding penalties, but he was beat both inside and out throughout the game.  Most of Josh's pressure came from his side.  Granted, we survived, but I don't know if he should even be a primary back up for us, as he looks lost out there at times.  

 

9 - Gesicki - I'm sorry, but ***** him.  I can understand players getting hyped after a good play, but he seemed to be really relishing in his success out there.  Maybe it's from his Dolphins tenure, but I felt like he was taunting us all game.  His catch on the Bengals last drive was a killer on Cam and he had an overall good game. But again, ***** him.

 

10 - Chicken or the Egg - Should out to Knox for putting up numbers we haven't seen in years.  This is the type of game that I believe Knox is very capable of having more of.  I know he's had his share of drops and is a better blocker than Kincaid, but I feel like we need to try and have more gameplays like this.  Knox and Kincaid running free is very difficult to defend, occupies the safeties, makes play action more effective, and makes the running game so much better.  Now, was this a result of the Bengals defense being comically bad against the Tight Ends?  Maybe.  Either way, Knox is a capable playmaker and I hope to see more of it.  

 

Bonus - Did we find out why McD burned a TO prior to an extra point?  And don't think I forgot about his other wasted TO before a 3rd and short, that the Bengals ultimately converted.

 

 

We are on to the most meaningful game left on our schedule with the Pats. We are either going to be in the hunt for the division after this next game, or trying to lock up the wild card so we can take week 18 off.  With the Broncos winning, the 1 seed seems very unlikely, so hopefully we can get things sorted out prior to week 18.  

 

Go Bills!!!!

Love your write-ups @Virgil

[Rochesterfan]

3 minutes ago, PoundingDog said:

They were going to be a delay of the game 5 yard penalty of the extra point. You can argue what matters of 5 yards for a kicker. I'm with McDermott that for Prater, it matters and 4 point lead vs 3 point lead is huge.

 

Someone pointed out on the TO for the 3rd and short, the defense alignment was going to have Chase uncovered. Ultimately it resulted #39 on Chase to the sideline, but you'd never want to leave Chase uncovered fora potential TD.

There is really no good choice when you know your defense can't stop the other team. But the onside kick chance is so low, it is really not worth it. taylor almost got what he's hoping for which is getting Bills to 3rd and 15... I actually was hoping for play-action on the 1st down. and Kudos to Josh holding onto the ball on the 2nd down sack (not throwing the ball away to stop the clock). I'm pretty sure had Josh not getting the 1st but close, McD might go for it.  

 

I agree - people going after Taylor for not onside kicking is wrong.  The onside kick is so lo percentage and even if you stop the Bills it is near the Cincinnati 40 and therefore in potential 4th down area.

 

By kicking off - you still need the same stop, but as it will be deeper in Bills territory- less chance for a 4th down attempt and you have a chance to get the ball significantly closer to the winning TD.

 

 

[Virgil]

10 minutes ago, Ga boy said:

I would say Benford is Spider-Man.  He spun a web for Burrow then leaped and glued that tater.  Fans have been complaining about JA17 not running.  I think through 12 games they’ve been saving him for now, which is essentially playoff mode. 

 

You dare mix up DC and Marvel?!  Respect yourself 😋

[DrDawkinstein]

40 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

9 - Gesicki - I'm sorry, but ***** him.  I can understand players getting hyped after a good play, but he seemed to be really relishing in his success out there.  Maybe it's from his Dolphins tenure, but I felt like he was taunting us all game.  His catch on the Bengals last drive was a killer on Cam and he had an overall good game. But again, ***** him.

 

 

 

Yep, The Bengals are cocky against the Bills as it is, then he has some hold over from his Miami days. Agreed, he can get f#$^ed. We got the last laugh tho.

[Low Positive]

7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Yep, The Bengals are cocky against the Bills as it is, then he has some hold over from his Miami days. Agreed, he can get f#$^ed. We got the last laugh tho.

His busting out the whitest griddy this side of Mac Jones was a bit rage-inducing. 

[Coach Tuesday]

13 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

I agree - people going after Taylor for not onside kicking is wrong.  The onside kick is so lo percentage and even if you stop the Bills it is near the Cincinnati 40 and therefore in potential 4th down area.

 

By kicking off - you still need the same stop, but as it will be deeper in Bills territory- less chance for a 4th down attempt and you have a chance to get the ball significantly closer to the winning TD.

 

 

 

The only thing is, in the snow, you can line-drive onside kick it and hope for a crazy bounce.  It's not a bad option.  But his plan worked, they should've been able to force a punt, Josh is just a friggin cheatcode.

[Repulsif]

2 bad things I remember from the game were

- at some point Bengals were 8/8 (or more ?) on 3rd down, and that's why they were up 21

- it took them around 40s to score a TD near the end of the game

You can't allow that if you're a supposed contender

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59 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

 

Bonus - Did we find out why McD burned a TO prior to an extra point?  And don't think I forgot about his other wasted TO before a 3rd and short, that the Bengals ultimately converted.

 

 

 

 

Go Bills!!!!

 

I have a theory.  If you watch the replays, MCD got caught up in the moment and was out on the field running toward the endzone too.  My guess is they had to take a beat and gather themselves on the sideline. It was a monstrous moment that swept up the entire bench.