Game week thread - Bills at Patriots*

[NewEra]

11 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

Solomon has been underwhelming to be sure.  The question is, who is Buffalo going to find to play defensive end for them next season?  I think both Epenesa and Bosa are at the end of their contracts.  One or both are likely to be gone.  Rousseau will be here.  Hoecht is still under contract as is Landon Jackson.  Rousseau isn't exactly crushing it this season, Hoecht is probably not going to be playing at full speed at the start of the season, assuming he's on the field at all in September and Landon Jackson has yet to show he can figure out how to play defensive end in the NFL.  The Bills might draft a defensive end next spring, but I'll be a bit surprised if it is in the first round.  I don't know that there are any future superstars among defensive ends in the upcoming draft.  The Bills will be very lucky if they can find a real productive guy after round 1.  Good free agents defensive ends are expensive unless there are unusual circumstances.   

The question is, who’s going to help us win a Super Bowl THIS year?  

[Buffalo4Life01]

15 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

The talking heads said the Bills were the team in the AFC that week and per every bill FA talked to that week the Ravens were the good ravens before they all got injured

Of course they said that.  That was the current narrative in the NFL at the time and the bills had won the division 5 years in a row.  That said, again, it was obvious to anyone who closely watched the games that Buffalo was a very flawed team.  Not sure the point you are trying to make but I'll leave you with this.  You can throw the records out the window for Sunday.  Both teams are evenly matched and this is one game I wouldn't bet on regardless of the odds.

Go Bills!!

[chris heff]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

We are missing way more than just Oliver. Palmer and Bosa are probably long shots to play. Hoecht playing that I didn't hear? Shakir probably plays but he isn't right injury wise right now. First practice is today. There will likely be a long list of others that are limited to DNP. 

Yeah okay, do you really think Palmer makes a difference? Bosa is a maybe, but I doubt he plays. Of course Hoecht isn’t playing and as the poster said Oliver is out. I think what he meant is, things were worse.

[BuffaloBillyG]

5 minutes ago, chris heff said:

Yeah okay, do you really think Palmer makes a difference? Bosa is a maybe, but I doubt he plays. Of course Hoecht isn’t playing and as the poster said Oliver is out. I think what he meant is, things were worse.

Palmer makes a difference because of the next man up principal. With him there, Coleman and Shavers see less snaps. He is better than those two. 

 

Were things worse? Sure. But let's not act like other than Oliver no one else that's missing or likely to be matters. Heck, I didn't even mention above Spencer Brown may well miss this week too. Does he matter?

 

Overall, yes. It seemed like earlier this season we would lose 2 players for every one we got back. Now it seems we are getting 2 back for every one we lose. But there's still a LOT of guys that will miss this week. And that includes guys on season ending IR. 

Edited 5 hours ago by BuffaloBillyG

[chris heff]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Palmer makes a difference because of the next man up principal. With him there, Coleman and Shavers see less snaps. He is better than those two. 

 

Were things worse? Sure. But let's not act like other than Oliver no one else that's missing or likely to be matters. Heck, I didn't even mention above Spencer Brown may well miss this week too. Does he matter?

Palmer has not shown anything that makes me think he is a difference maker. Of course Brown matters, but I think he may play.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

[Chaos]

It’s funny the first time the Bills met the Patriots the game was critical.  If we have won that we would likely be cruising towards winning division and maybe first seed in the AFC This game is actually less important. Our regular season date is mostly sealed whether we win or lose. 
 

Having said that if we lose it will certainly seem as thought the Patriots have passed us in a single season.  But the playoffs could still fix that feeling.  

Edited 5 hours ago by Chaos

[zow2]

25 minutes ago, WhiskyBreath said:

Or, will it be another sleepwalk?  Like the last time around when they simply assumed that showing up would assure a win.

 

IMO, this should be all about pride, not just a possible #1 seed.  We need to make a statement now that we are relatively injury free (other than Oliver).

 

I don't know,, in a bunch of videos i keep hearing Josh say "stay low, stay low"  "don't ride the rollercoaster".... so maybe they will come in sleepy.  But i doubt it.  I get what he's trying to do,  maintain the same level of energy for every game, don't get too hyped or too low key. 

 

But hey, for the biggest games I'm OK if the team is hyped up at gametime.  They clearly were not at Atlanta and at Miami this season.  

[Tanoros]

14 minutes ago, chris heff said:

Palmer has not shown anything that makes me think he is a difference maker. Of course Brown matters, but I think he may play.

This is Palmer’s first year with the team, and all season we’ve talked about how Brady hasn’t fully utilized the receivers. Palmer has already missed eight games, and it’ll be nine if he’s out this week. If he’d been healthy, he and Allen would have had much more time to build chemistry and integrate him into the offense.

 

I don’t think anyone would disagree that Palmer is probably our best true outside receiver when he’s available. That matters. It shouldn’t be brushed aside. This offense could use any extra spark it can get at the position, and a healthy Palmer would absolutely provide that.

[The Jokeman]

45 minutes ago, boyst said:

 

Bills draw John Hussey as the official

https://wyrk.com/john-hussey-aj-epenesa-ejection/ 

[The Jokeman]

5 minutes ago, Tanoros said:

This is Palmer’s first year with the team, and all season we’ve talked about how Brady hasn’t fully utilized the receivers. Palmer has already missed eight games, and it’ll be nine if he’s out this week. If he’d been healthy, he and Allen would have had much more time to build chemistry and integrate him into the offense.

 

I don’t think anyone would disagree that Palmer is probably our best true outside receiver when he’s available. That matters. It shouldn’t be brushed aside. This offense could use any extra spark it can get at the position, and a healthy Palmer would absolutely provide that.

Hopefully we get him back for the playoffs. 

[SCBills]

I’m sure this will change for me come Sunday, but I just don’t have the juice for this game that everyone else seems to have.  
 

If anyone can convince me that the Pats can lose to the Jets or Dolphins, I’d have a different tune, but it just seems like delaying the inevitable. 
 

And worst case scenario is us playing everyone Week 18 on the off chance Pats lose and it doesn’t matter. 
 

I don’t necessarily trust Vrabel against good teams in the playoffs.  He’s also never had a Drake Maye.. and we’ll see what Maye looks like in Dec/Jan clutch football, but the closest they’ve come to remotely losing to a bad team is against the Flacco led/no Chase Bengals. 
 

And on the bright side, should the Pats eventually clinch the Division.. if the Chiefs manage to sneak in as the 7 seed, it just doesn’t seem right to have Bills/Chiefs in the Wild Card.  Give me the 5 seed in that scenario & Bills/Chiefs at Highmark.. last game ever there, with a Super Bowl on the line.  Absolute cinema. 
 

Edited 4 hours ago by SCBills

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I’m sure this will change for me come Sunday, but I just don’t have the juice for this game that everyone else seems to have.  
 

If anyone can convince me that the Pats can lose to the Jets or Dolphins, I’d have a different tune, but it just seems like delaying the inevitable. 
 

I don’t necessarily trust Vrabel against good teams in the playoffs.  He’s also never had a Drake Maye.. and we’ll see what Maye looks like in Dec/Jan clutch football, but the closest they’ve come to remotely losing to a bad team is against the Flacco led/no Chase Bengals. 
 

And on the bright side, should the Pats eventually clinch the Division.. if the Chiefs manage to sneak in as the 7 seed, it just doesn’t seem right to have Bills/Chiefs in the Wild Card.  Give me the 5 seed in that scenario & Bills/Chiefs at Highmark.. last game ever there, with a Super Bowl on the line.  Absolute cinema. 

 

Not happening. The Chiefs last stand to save their season was Sunday night vs Houston. They didn't so their 2025 season is dead.

[Buffalo ill]

Not wearing the vomit inducing cold front jerseys should help this go around.

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, Gregg said:

 

Not happening. The Chiefs last stand to save their season was Sunday night vs Houston. They didn't so their 2025 season is dead.

Perhaps.  They need to win out and they need the Chargers to lose 3/4.. one against them obviously and then one being Denver.   So this seems entirely dependent upon the Broncos needing that game or not. 

[Gregg]

Just now, Buffalo ill said:

Not wearing the vomit inducing cold front jerseys should help this go around.

 

They will be wearing their normal white jerseys. Just hasn't been announced yet if it will be all-whites or white over blue.

 

https://www.gridiron-uniforms.com/GUD/controller/controller.php?action=weekly&year=2025&week=15&league=NFL

[Kelly to Allen]

I think it's obviously important for seeding, but I honestly don't care that much about the division. 

 

Once KC won the Superbowl in 23 as a wildcard, I try to do my best to enjoy the regular season because in this Allen era it really is about the playoffs. I've come to realize that the regular season is really not the most important thing as long as you make the playoffs....

 

Aaron Rodgers won 3 straight road gms in 2010, Elway in 97, Eli in 07 &11.... Etc

 

I still get mad sometimes tho. Again I threw my phone after cooks fumble vs Cincinnati lol

 

I'm hoping we can get enough wins to rest guys vs the jets. I'll b happy with that as a regular season achievement, but ultimately it's to best set yourself up for a playoff run

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Kelly to Allen

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Perhaps.  They need to win out and they need the Chargers to lose 3/4.. one against them obviously and then one being Denver.   So this seems entirely dependent upon the Broncos needing that game or not. 

 

When a team has to win out and have other team/teams lose it rarely works out. Anything is possible but I think the Chiefs are done this year.

[SCBills]

Just now, Gregg said:

 

When a team has to win out and have other team/teams lose it rarely works out. Anything is possible but I think the Chiefs are done this year.

Yea. I’d tend to agree, and the Chargers beating Philly was huge, but they could easily go 0/4 in their final games. 

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Yea. I’d tend to agree, and the Chargers beating Philly was huge, but they could easily go 0/4 in their final games. 

 

I think the AFC playoffs will be.

 

East - Pats

South - Jags or Texans (loser gets a WC)

North - Steelers

West - Broncos

 

WC's - Bills, Texans/Jags, Chargers.