davefan66 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Those contracts with void years can be extended, which from what I read will extend the cap hit further freeing space. If so, Bosa, Oganjobi and possibly McGovern would be the targets to extend. No way is Milano extended. Jones probably won’t be either. Quote
BillsFan2313 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 18 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: So where can the Bills create cap space. 1) Cut Knox. Savings $9.6 mill 2) Restructure, Taron Johnson, Dawkins, and Oliver. All carry dead cap less than their 2026 cap hit but only about $3 mill per player. A restructure likely creates more space 3) Cut Bass - cap savings 2.9 mill 4) Cut Rapp - Cap savings 3.5 5) Cut Samuel - Cap Savings $6.3 6) Yeah, we can get to $40 million in space pretty easily Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Oddly, I feel like they extend Torrence before they even think of re-signing Edwards or McGovern. Beane likes to pay his picks. No doubt. It’s just a feeling. I think that he gets a deal bigger than Robert Hunt just got (5 years $100M and $63M guaranteed). They can get a lot for him. I suggested dealing him and a pick for Higgins. It potentially better balances the Bills and Bengals. They’d plug Anderson into that spot. 7 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: I'm not sure that's true for a contract that is expired. For example with Tre White, he was still under contract and by giving him a June 1 designation the Bills saved about $10 mill (if memory serves). How Milano, Bosa, McGovern etc.. all are on expiring contracts. That’s what over the cap says anyways. It’s posted earlier in the thread. Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: He'd have to come back this year AND finish strong to sniff a 3rd, I think. For exactly the reasons you mentioned. It's a criticism way down the list at this point, but part of Beane's over-commitment to his own draft picks means we never deal a guy when his value will actually net us something positive in return. Isn't it kinda weird that in 8 seasons he's NEVER moved one of his draft picks for a sizable return in trade? I could understand that strategy if he was actually good at drafting players, but he's not. Not even Cooper moved the needle much. 1 Quote
GroteStreet Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 51 minutes ago, ngbills said: These extensions are starting to look bad - Milano, Knox, Bernard, Benford, Rousseau, Oliver, Johnson and even Shakir. The Cook deal is one of the best and they resisted doing it. Imagine this a O right now without Cook. They knew going into the season what the plan was and still treated Cook like an interchangeable piece. The cap mngt, free agents, trade deadlines make me wonder what beane is doing. beane wonders what beane is doing. Quote
BearNorth Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: edit: I forgot Rapp and Bass too what's the deal with IR'd players whose contract expires? Does the team say it's been nice having you? Bass comes with a $6MM dead cap hit - BTW Edited 5 hours ago by BearNorth Quote
quincy Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Torrence is durable and hasn't missed a start since being drafted. it would be so ironic that we trade a player who stays on the field compared to the Oliver's, Benford's, Milano's, just to name a few, who have been extended. Having said that I think a trade of Torrence is a possibility because of all the previous accumulated mismanagement of the McBeane era. Quote
Flipnmi Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I believe that if extended though the Bills can spread that cap hit out. For example if they bring back McGovern and Bosa they can take those “void year hits” and roll them into the new deal. They can also designate Jones and Milano as post-June 1 and save about $7M for next year. Milano's contract expires at the end of this year after he restructured this summer and his 2026 cap figure is a void year. Conclusion = no cap 2026 savings available unless he is resigned and the void money is rolled into a new deal as you have stated. Obviously this scenerio is highly unlikely in this case. Quote
Uncle Stucky Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, strive_for_five_guy said: You had me at cut Samuel and gain money Knox should go to jail for that contract. Edited 4 hours ago by Uncle Stucky Quote
tigerthelion Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, ngbills said: These extensions are starting to look bad - Milano, Knox, Bernard, Benford, Rousseau, Oliver, Johnson and even Shakir. The Cook deal is one of the best and they resisted doing it. Imagine this a O right now without Cook. They knew going into the season what the plan was and still treated Cook like an interchangeable piece. The cap mngt, free agents, trade deadlines make me wonder what beane is doing. Yeah, i was thinking about Shakir yesterday and I am starting to think that extension was too much money. He is a good player, but can disappear too easily, especially when nobody else requires much attention by the opposing defense. Edited 4 hours ago by tigerthelion Quote
VW82 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Serious question: do you guys want Bills to turn over every rock to create 2026 space? I ask because that just kicks the can down the road. Eventually you have to pay the piper. I’m starting to wonder if we’re not better off taking our lumps sooner to get out of this regime and starting over in 2027 with a clean slate. This would involve Terry prematurely firing McBeane with multiple years left on their extensions and any new FO taking a step back year in year one. Probably not going to happen because it’s impossible to justify to a broader fan base after years of winning. I’m just finally losing confidence enough in leadership where this scenario makes some sense, especially because we’re basically F’d next couple years with cap in terms of meaningful improvements unless we F ourselves even further in 2027 and beyond. Quote
Pecker Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I am no capologist but was messing around on there last night. I expect Milano, Knox, Taron, Jones and Samuel to all be gone. A couple of them will carry a post-June 1 designation. edit: I forgot Rapp and Bass too They just restructured Johnson. What a stupid move that was. Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 42 minutes ago, Flipnmi said: Milano's contract expires at the end of this year after he restructured this summer and his 2026 cap figure is a void year. Conclusion = no cap 2026 savings available unless he is resigned and the void money is rolled into a new deal as you have stated. Obviously this scenerio is highly unlikely in this case. I was just using over the cap. They are saying that the hit cap be split with post June 1. 🤷🏻♂️ Quote
khlax3 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I think Knox will get extended for a more modest deal instead of cut freeing up around the same amount of money. Samuel is a for sure cut, bass also likely. I think they will possibly re-sign bosa and Epenesa which will allow them to move their dead money around. Quote
Mark Vader Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Release Daquan Jones, Taron Johnson, Taylor Rapp & Matt Milano. Force Dawson Knox to take a pay cut, not a restructure, a pay cut. If he won't, then trade or release him. Sorry Mr. Brightside. Restructure Josh Allen, Spencer Brown, Ed Oliver, Greg Rousseau & Terrel Bernard. How much would that help? Quote
ColoradoBills Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, corta765 said: I was trying to understand what we can and cannot do with the cap in 2026 but I honestly do not fully get it. Knox & Samuel look like we can cut and gain 16.5, but the rest of the guys I cannot figure out where the space can be created (I Know it exists somehow). Is there anyone who is a capologist who can explain what our most likely moves are? If you want to see the players what can be restructured, sort by Base PS Salary column. That's where the restructure money comes from. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/_/year/2026 Quote
Lionel Hutz Posted 29 minutes ago Posted 29 minutes ago I always say the Bills would be the Sabres if they hadn't drafted Allen. Years of terrible drafts and roster management by this GM will likely cost us any chance of winning a championship. Pegula has no clue what is going on with the team and is simply happy about making playoffs and his new taxpayer funded stadium. Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted 24 minutes ago Posted 24 minutes ago 4 hours ago, BearNorth said: what's the deal with IR'd players whose contract expires? Does the team say it's been nice having you? Bass comes with a $6MM dead cap hit - BTW I’m seeing $2.9M of savings and a $2M dead cap hit on Bass. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills Quote
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