Game week thread - Buccaneers at Bills

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Slowly working through the All 22 vs Miami and I am dropping this here because the talent vs Brady thread is buried…

 

I will speak for the first three drives. Our passing offense was so out of synch…and it had little to do with separation, at least from the opening gun.
 

There are guys running through zones (Shavers, Samuel) into defenders, and Allen passing up quick reads for whatever reason (once to Coleman, once to Shavers). 

 

When a team comes out and plays an entire quarter that seems very unprepared and making these mental errors I question how well they’ve been prepared for these situations. 
 

 

[BananaB]

17 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Slowly working through the All 22 vs Miami and I am dropping this here because the talent vs Brady thread is buried…

 

I will speak for the first three drives. Our passing offense was so out of synch…and it had little to do with separation, at least from the opening gun.
 

There are guys running through zones (Shavers, Samuel) into defenders, and Allen passing up quick reads for whatever reason (once to Coleman, once to Shavers). 

 

When a team comes out and plays an entire quarter that seems very unprepared and making these mental errors I question how well they’ve been prepared for these situations. 
 

 

I think I’ve heard Allen, Joe Brady and Spencer Brown all said Mia D were doing stuff never seen before on tape in the first quarter and it affected their gameplan early. Someone else mentioned it to but I’m not sure who. They also said it’s probably an adjustments the team made after the Jalen Phillips trade. 

Edited 9 hours ago by BananaB

[zow2]

Sadly the Bills and their supposedly very good Oline cannot impose their will against some of these lesser teams. I think it’s attitude and preparation. 

[Comebackkid]

37 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Slowly working through the All 22 vs Miami and I am dropping this here because the talent vs Brady thread is buried…

 

I will speak for the first three drives. Our passing offense was so out of synch…and it had little to do with separation, at least from the opening gun.
 

There are guys running through zones (Shavers, Samuel) into defenders, and Allen passing up quick reads for whatever reason (once to Coleman, once to Shavers). 

 

When a team comes out and plays an entire quarter that seems very unprepared and making these mental errors I question how well they’ve been prepared for these situations. 
 

 

wr running right to the defenders has been a season long issue...  ive mentioned defenders at times can just sit pat and route takes wr right to them.

[CodeMonkey]

The sports books disagree with most on this thread.  They still think the betting public needs encouragement to put their $$$ on the Bucs.

Buffalo Bills: -250

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: +200

Bills giving 5.5 points.

[Scott7975]

20 minutes ago, Comebackkid said:

wr running right to the defenders has been a season long issue...  ive mentioned defenders at times can just sit pat and route takes wr right to them.

 

Well... thats almost an improvement. Last year they were running routes into each other instead of into the other team lol.

[Buffalo Ballin]

Another loss for us.

[stevewin]

14 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

The general perspective of the fans (not reliable, I'm aware) is they don't expect to see him for another 2 weeks. Which is good because Bucky is skilled...but the Bucs have other good RBs. 

"He has to be able to take a hit before returning" - why are they concerned about this for their RB against our D amirite

Edited 2 hours ago by stevewin

[Mike R]

6 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Slowly working through the All 22 vs Miami and I am dropping this here because the talent vs Brady thread is buried…

 

I will speak for the first three drives. Our passing offense was so out of synch…and it had little to do with separation, at least from the opening gun.
 

There are guys running through zones (Shavers, Samuel) into defenders, and Allen passing up quick reads for whatever reason (once to Coleman, once to Shavers). 

 

When a team comes out and plays an entire quarter that seems very unprepared and making these mental errors I question how well they’ve been prepared for these situations. 
 

 

It was quite obvious after the first 2 drives that the Bills were totally unprepared to play. Looked like they did no prep and had very low energy across the board. Everyone was kind of jogging around going through the motions. Defense was on their heels watching teammates try to tackle instead of hustling to the play and helping. What’s discouraging is they never could snap out of it. Never showed any fire or emotion. Almost like they didn’t want to be there.

5 hours ago, Comebackkid said:

wr running right to the defenders has been a season long issue...  ive mentioned defenders at times can just sit pat and route takes wr right to them.

 

Does anyone that studies film know what plays the Bills go to when they are blitzed? The only play I ever see is the quick sideline screen to Shakir and teams know that’s coming now. Why is it so hard for this team to run screens to rb’s? The Bucs are going to stack the box to stop the run and blitz. What are the Bills answers? They have had none thus far.

[stlbills13]

I want to see us play with tempo

[Psautcsk]

8 hours ago, zow2 said:

Sadly the Bills and their supposedly very good Oline cannot impose their will against some of these lesser teams. I think it’s attitude and preparation. 

What will the Bills do when Tampa just crowds the line and refuses to let us run. Can we impose our will against them? I have my doubts. What about Houston 4 days later?

[Psautcsk]

7 hours ago, CodeMonkey said:

The sports books disagree with most on this thread.  They still think the betting public needs encouragement to put their $$$ on the Bucs.

Buffalo Bills: -250

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: +200

Bills giving 5.5 points.

The sports books are meaningless

[zow2]

2 hours ago, Mike R said:

It was quite obvious after the first 2 drives that the Bills were totally unprepared to play. Looked like they did no prep and had very low energy across the board. Everyone was kind of jogging around going through the motions. Defense was on their heels watching teammates try to tackle instead of hustling to the play and helping. What’s discouraging is they never could snap out of it. Never showed any fire or emotion. Almost like they didn’t want to be there.

 

That's an indicator of a coach that has lost the team so to speak.  The posts we see on this board like "this team is stale" are accurate.  I suspect the Miami Loss will scare them straight for a short period of time, much like the Atlanta loss did.  They will work hard, prepare hard, practice hard...and show up vs Tampa, especially at home.  The other issue is that the Bills really aren't that special plus the defensive injuries.  When they go on the road and half-ass the game and the opponent is jacked up, it's a recipe for losses.

[Casey D]

15 minutes ago, Psautcsk said:

What will the Bills do when Tampa just crowds the line and refuses to let us run. Can we impose our will against them? I have my doubts. What about Houston 4 days later?

I don't think the skill of the opponent has much to do with the outcome at this point.  It's not like the Bills play well against the poor teams, but bad against the good teams.  In fact, it's mostly the opposite.  Wins against healthy Ravens team and KC and losses to crappy Dolphins and Falcons show this.  In retrospect, the Pats game is the only time they lost to a good team, and that went down to the wire.  At this point it is anyone's guess which Bills team shows up week to week, but the quality of the opponent does not seem to be an issue.  I mean with a beatdown from the Dolphins-- if that is the team we get-- they will likely lose to everyone.  If we get the KC team, we might go 14-3.

[Psautcsk]

4 minutes ago, Casey D said:

I don't think the skill of the opponent has much to do with the outcome at this point.  It's not like the Bills play well against the poor teams, but bad against the good teams.  In fact, it's mostly the opposite.  Wins against healthy Ravens team and KC and losses to crappy Dolphins and Falcons show this.  In retrospect, the Pats game is the only time they lost to a good team, and that went down to the wire.  At this point it is anyone's guess which Bills team shows up week to week, but the quality of the opponent does not seem to be an issue.  I mean with a beatdown from the Dolphins-- if that is the team we get-- they will likely lose to everyone.  If we get the KC team, we might go 14-3.

As the injuries mount we cannot assume we will be able to just turn it up a notch against "better" teams. 

[Casey D]

Just now, Psautcsk said:

As the injuries mount we cannot assume we will be able to just turn it up a notch against "better" teams. 

Sure.  But I don't think it is just turning it up a notch against the good teams, it is pooping the bed against bad teams.  Dolphins are just awful.  The Bills had to really try to play that bad against a team like that.  Bills should have won even on a bad day, and what we saw was stupefying.  I'll worry about turning it up a notch when I see the KC Bills lose to a decent team.

[Psautcsk]

If they really tried to play bad against a division rival in front of 50,000 Bills fans on the road, then this team has some very serious issues.

[Casey D]

1 minute ago, Psautcsk said:

If they really tried to play bad against a division rival in front of 50,000 Bills fans on the road, then this team has some very serious issues.

I doubt they did, but they sure looked like it.  It was just awful, and totally unexpected.

[The Firebaugh Kid]

16 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

We are going to absolutely obliterate the Bucs

 

Sports narratives always get busted. 

 

Bills down and out, fire Beane, fire McDermott, Allen looks sad, need a WR... Bucs a buzzsaw on offense, Baker potential MVP

 

SO

 

Look for Coleman to have over 100 yards, Baker to throw 2 INT and be sacked 5 times, Allen to complete passes to 7 different players, and Bills win 34-17

 

The way it’s going this season, this wouldn’t surprise me one bit. 

[Psautcsk]

2 minutes ago, Casey D said:

I doubt they did, but they sure looked like it.  It was just awful, and totally unexpected.

I think there is a lot of complacency within the organization as a whole, and it starts at the top and trickles down.