Is it the receivers or Brady

[BananaB]

7 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

So are you saying Allen couldn't have made the throw?

 

Cook doesn't fumble in the red zone and Allen hits the TD here it's at worst 17 to 10 or Cook doesn't fumble and we score a TD it's 16 to 14 if Allen throws a TD here.  Mind you we score again at the beginning of the 4th and it's 21 to 16 us.  The next fumble from Allen Achane took to the house two plays later so it's not impossible to imagine that if Allen doesn't fumble you not only could add 3 points for us but take 7 off the board for Miami and we scored another TD after that.   For all the pointing at Brady there were plenty of points left on the field.  

Perfect football does not happen every week. Could have done a lot of things different. Guys trying to make plays because we’re down a couple scores and ***** ain’t going our way. It happens. The lack of execution on third down when we get behind the chains is a Brady problem. We are like 2-8 on 4th down this season, that’s a Brady problem. We are 0-4 on 2pt conversions this year, that’s a Brady problem.  We have 2 WRs that were catching 50+ their last two seasons before joining Buffalo and both probably lucky to catch 20 this year, that’s a Brady problem.  The offense has been figured out and it’s up to no one but Brady to mix things up. We all see it, Bills try the same ***** all the time.  Every Bills fans  in the stadium knew that ball was going to Shakir when he curled behind Allen on the 2 pt conversion. Watching the Bills we know we’re gonna throw a few WR screens. Daltons cross is gonna be in the mix a few times. Coleman 50/50 balls a couple times a game. Moores little sweep on shot yardage at least once. Everybody got a couple plays, it’s the same thing every ***** week. If Cook can’t run, we ***** because the passing offense is as predictable as it can get

[HappyDays]

3 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

Except that fundamental system that's broken scores 30 points a game.

 

When it can follow a hyper-specific game script it scores 30 PPG. The problem is that you can't reasonably expect that game script to work out every single week. So yes I would say it's fundamentally broken. If a defense can nudge us off our only path just a bit, the whole system comes crashing down.

[The Jokeman]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I’ll do it. You can even help me. 👍

Name please. And someone realistic as ain't no way McVay coming here.

[Mikie2times]

2 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

Except that fundamental system that's broken scores 30 points a game.  Then when it doesn't everyone says it's broken but it's also the same game where they have a handful of turnovers and dropped passes.  I get it we don't throw bombs to WR's and that makes a number of people on here nuts but if I'm Brady I'm doing the best I can with what I've got.  I'm not sure anyone else is doing any better with this group.  

Yes, 30+ points a game when they can run, control the clock, and play with a lead. Under 16 points a game when they can't. The whole argument is this offense isn't diverse enough to win multiple ways. Not that it isn't capable when Cook goes for 150 yards. Cook has 49, 87, and 53 yards in our three losses. 44, 132, 108, 117, 216, 114 in our wins. If your argument is this offense can be "secretly dominant" when Cook goes for 100+ I won't argue. My argument is it can't be dominant when he doesn't. It's borderline below league average when that is the case. 

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, The Jokeman said:

Name please. And someone realistic as ain't no way McVay coming here.

Not sure what your ridiculous point is here. I’m not in charge of hiring coaches. But I do know you have to design an offense that plays into your roster’s strengths. Brady’s passing game definitely does not. Do you disagree? 

[MasterStrategist]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

It’s Brady and Allen.  If anyone doesn’t think Allen is having stretches in games where he is playing poor, exhibiting poor pocket awareness, poor vision, and making poor decisions then your are incapable of providing an unbiased review of how he’s played.  He was excellent against KC, but he’s not been the same Allen and was not good in all 3 losses and some of our wins.  He has had moments in those games, but he’s been off a lot this year.  
 

And Brady has been terrible most this season.  
 

Yes we need to upgrade at WR still, but these 3 losses are on Allen and Brady more than anyone.  

Yes and no.

 

My issue ranking:

1.  Lack of Wr talent- especially boundary

2. OL play

3. Brady playcalling

4. Josh

 

I dont think Brady designs  QB friendly passing schemes.  But the lack of WR talent/coupled with how teams have adjusted to our offense, is so glaring.

 

OL downright was bad 1st half.  We pay for a top tier OL and we got that the last 2 weeks.  Today, not so much.  Miami controlled the line, on both sides of the ball, today.  That killed our run game and ability to stay ahead of chains.  

 

The fact we need a strong run game to win, is also very concerning. Thats on Brady and lack of Wr talent.

 

This team needs a new OC and find a few reliable WRs this offseason. 

 

We got away with dominant ol play amd practically winning the turnover battle in every game LY.  Regression to the mean with turnovers was bound to occur, and here we are- overhyped last years offense production and Beane thinking we were set-  which was a huge error.

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, Maine-iac said:

Simple to stop?  We scored 13 on two long TD passes.  We were in scoring position multiple other times and turned the ball over.  We could have easily scored 3 more times just by not turning the ball over.  Cook didn't have his usual explosive runs but was still averaging over 4 a carry and Allen threw for 300.  Just don't turn the ball over.  NE we turned the ball over.  Atlanta we turned the ball over.  Not every game are going to be cake walks and our defense gives up a ton of big plays but any week this offense doesn't turn the ball over we generally score 25 to 30 points.

 

They turn the ball over because they are pressing. They are pressing because every yard is difficult for them and they rely on 10+ play 7+ min drives every drive. It’s not a good offensive philosophy. Takes too much perfection. As soon as they are behind the sticks, they have to press because their offense isn’t built to get chunks. 

[JohnNord]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

When it can follow a hyper-specific game script it scores 30 PPG. The problem is that you can't reasonably expect that game script to work out every single week. So yes I would say it's fundamentally broken. If a defense can nudge us off our only path just a bit, the whole system comes crashing down.

“Game script” is a good word to use here.  They very much are reliant on a game script and they shouldn’t be with Josh as the QB

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

Not sure what your ridiculous point is here. I’m not in charge of hiring coaches. But I do know you have to design an offense that plays into your roster’s strengths. Brady’s passing game definitely does not. Do you disagree? 

My point is people like to B word at our coaches but when ask for replacements they all seem to be like you can't come up with an answer. 

[JohnNord]

1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

They turn the ball over because they are pressing. They are pressing because every yard is difficult for them and they rely on 10+ play 7+ min drives every drive. It’s not a good offensive philosophy. Takes too much perfection. As soon as they are behind the sticks, they have to press because their offense isn’t built to get chunks. 

Yes!  This is a big problem… But I think it’s mainly Josh who’s doing the pressing, largely because he knows how bad the WR’s are 

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, The Jokeman said:

My point is people like to B word at our coaches but when ask for replacements they all seem to be like you can't come up with an answer. 

I understand your point….but it doesn’t make it anything more than ridiculous 

[Mikie2times]

Just now, The Jokeman said:

My point is people like to B word at our coaches but when ask for replacements they all seem to be like you can't come up with an answer. 

This is horse crap, you not liking the answer isn't the same as not coming up with one. People have been calling out replacements for years now. Many have had success, some haven't. 

[wppete]

 

[SoCal Deek]

It’s not complicated! If you have receivers who can’t separate, you design an offense that emphasizes stacked formations and rub routes. In other words you use your own players to help create separation. This isn’t rocket science. 

[The Jokeman]

2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

This is horse crap, you not liking the answer isn't the same as not coming up with one. People have been calling out replacements for years now. Many have had success, some haven't. 

I'm tired of the grass is always greener mentality as I saw years of turnover and guess what? It really wasn't greener.

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Maine-iac said:

If they're simple to stop then how come minus us turning the ball over they are not stopping us?  The common denominator is turnovers.  When we turn the ball over we score less points.  Crazy I know.  

QTR 1-2 possessions 

punt

turnover on downs 

 

QTR 2-4 possessions

punt

Cook fumble

punt

clocked out

 

QTR 3-1 possession 

used most of the entire quarter then interception

 

QTR 4-4 possessions 

TD

fumble

TD 

punt

 

it was practically garbage time on that last fumble. They were stopped all game. 

[mannc]

14 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Give me a name not a hypothetical.

It’s not working. Time to try something else. You don’t have be up on all the available candidates to know that…

[HappyDays]

9 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

My point is people like to B word at our coaches but when ask for replacements they all seem to be like you can't come up with an answer. 

 

The most common answers last year were Mike Vrabel and Ben Johnson, and people like you dismissed them for one reason or another. "Vrabel couldn't win a Super Bowl with Tennessee." "Coordinators don't always make good head coaches." So pardon me if I don't assume that you ask this question in good faith. Of course both Vrabel and Johnson have seemingly turned their new franchises around in year one so maybe people on here do have an idea what they're talking about when they make suggestions like that.

 

Edited 4 hours ago by HappyDays

[Puckman5]

3 hours ago, BuffBills51 said:

Simple question. Is it Brady’s scheme or the receivers that can’t get open? Watching other teams and you see receivers consistently schemed open. Josh has to run around like a chicken with his head cut off to make a play. 

 

[Buffaloflash]

Are there any new plays in Brady's Rolodex? Miami's defense played like they had the Bills' game plan a day earlier.