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6 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

I am interested to know your thoughts on not using WRs properly? I see a very substandard WR room that doesn’t get separation and lacks speed. Theres much more wrong but im too tired 😂

 

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Just now, Success said:

We've seen this on the sidelines all season.

 

Josh Allen - generational talent, current league MVP - weary, tired, frustrated.  At wit's end.

 

And we all know why.  90%+ of dropbacks  - never a 1st read pass.  Scrambling, evading the rush, keeping the play alive for a few more seconds - to STILL not have anyone open downfield.

 

It's organizational abuse of a player.  

Imagine what Josh could be if he had the things that other QB's do

 

From owner, the GM, to coaches, to wideouts, to defense...he's been dealt a ***** hand and it is borderline criminal how they are going to blow his prime and possibly ruin him by making him not even enjoy the game he loves due to having to carry the burden of the Buffalo Bills on his back for years with inadequate support from the franchise

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I am not about complaining about the WR spot. My beef is the defense. With all the injuries, going through the deadline was inexcusable and using the overbid, division rival argument is as lame as it gets. 2 free agents out 1st 6,   Sanders will take 4 yrs. just like Ed,    Hoecht is gone.   Then there's Dwayne to the DR. right off the bat.  Our rookie LJ is now also gone.   DQ collecting free money for the last 2 yrs.   Bosa is wearing a club.   AJ was out today.

 

We got Ogun, Walker thank God ( he'll want outta here), Jordan and that's it. I will give 72 some props. They don't even have enough brains to bring Logue up....might have to do with rules?

 

But, but, but we couldn't find any trade partners. Well now we are screwed. Thank you very little BB. We can now see how it goes when you lose your best assistants.

 

Maybe we coulda survived with running and 3 TE's, but no Dline....No beuno. Consolation prize to BB is maybe being able to trade out of the 1st from the teens.

 

I almost forgot the genius off season moves in the 2ndary. Maybe another time.

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Posted
21 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

The obsession with trading for a WR on this board is starting to become hilarious. Brady has no idea how to utilize WRs properly and we think giving him a new one would’ve been some magic wand that solves our problems? Aight.

 

Maybe 1 that isn't a gimmick WR like Samuel? A true #1 WR who he can't take off the field and becomes a security blanket when he's having games like today. You saw it on the last drive that Allen was literally doing everything on his own because these WR's cannot get open. 

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31 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I haven't read all the posts in this thread so maybe this has been talked about but did any one we tried the onside kick to early?  3:30 left, 3 TO's and the 2 minute warning Why not start Miami at their 30?  Instead they started at the Bills 38 allowing them to be more aggressive then they would have been back at their 30.  IMO you save the onside kick until the last moment.  Hell, the extra pressure on the receiving team with a minute left might make a difference.

 

 

As soon as I saw Ray Davis in there for the onsides, that tells me they already mailed it in anyway.

 

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2 hours ago, Green Lightning said:

 

My thoughts: 

 

1) Relax the rest of the season, this is not a Superbowl team.

 

2) This is the same exposed team we saw in the two losses before the bye.

 

3) After this season, yet another season that we waste prime Josh, it's time for McBeane to go. The roster building is flawed and the HC seams to be losing the players. Today's effort was inexcusable.

 

(4) As for Josh, he is just not himself. I don't know if it is getting married and making big time commercials during the offseason, but I don'tsee his usual swagger. Even on the rare occasion someone is open, he is often off target and hesitant to run. He's also likely dispirited with the lack of receiving talent and Brady's inability to scheme against man coverage.

 

5) All these injuries cannot be just bad luck. Have we gone a game with a long term loss of someone?

 

 

 

The entire front office should be eradicated i woulda been happy if they fired babich but since they seem to think that this is acceptable then fire them all... including Beane who did nothing at the deadline and we don't have 1 reciever that can get open they are gonna get Josh killed

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We're not the team most thought we were.

 

Allen has always made us look better than we are. The roster outside of him is bottom 10 - AT BEST.  I'm being generous there.

 

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2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

 

Maybe 1 that isn't a gimmick WR like Samuel? A true #1 WR who he can't take off the field and becomes a security blanket when he's having games like today. You saw it on the last drive that Allen was literally doing everything on his own because these WR's cannot get open. 

That's just BS....signed  Elijah Moore

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

This ####### can’t wait to defer the toss or punt a team back but we never stop them. We should be wanting to get the lead asap because we just literally can’t stop anyone, ever. 2017. That was the year. We are way past that now. Get this guy off of my sidelines FFS. Someone needs to fix this defense and it’s absolutely not McDermott or any of his puppets. The offense needs a TD on every drive. Who else thinks that way?

This is why everyone I was watching the game with wanted to go for it on 4th and a half yard on that opening drive.  Instead we punt, and it was a great punt pinning the Dolphins back at their 8 yard line.  From there Miami went on a 92 yard, 7 minute & 30 second TD drive.  At that point you could see the shift in the game.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Success said:

We've seen this on the sidelines all season.

 

Josh Allen - generational talent, current league MVP - weary, tired, frustrated.  At wit's end.

 

And we all know why.  90%+ of dropbacks  - never a 1st read pass.  Scrambling, evading the rush, keeping the play alive for a few more seconds - to STILL not have anyone open downfield.

 

It's organizational abuse of a player.  


This is mostly true.  At full strength, the Bills WR room is in the bottom of the league.  When Palmer is injured, they are easily the worst.  To make matters worse, Brady doesn’t seem to be able to find a way to get these WR’s open - because they can’t win on their own.  
 

whoever comes in next at OC will need to completely rebuild the offense for Josh 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

Anyone who thinks Allen’s play and ability is even in the top 10 of the Bills’ problems is delusional. 
 

This is probably the worst WR room in the modern NFL era. Combine that with extremely predictable playcalling and we are seeing what it looks like when a generational talent is handcuffed with trash around him.

 

I saw a guy giving it his all while nobody else stepped up at all today. A total team failure that starts with the coaching.

I also saw a guy making mistakes because he was pressing to make something happen, and trying to keep plays alive to give his terrible receivers time to uncover and getting the hell beaten out of him in the process. By not making life easy for him they're also unnecessarily exposing him to injury. 

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I don’t like watching the Bills anymore because I just feel like crap watching a generational player’s career flushed by a “try hard” GM and Coach combo that have too many holes in their skillsets. Oh well…

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Posted
14 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

 

that's like... $1.4m per catch good work if you can get it

Yes and most of them are long lateral that if he actually get past the los they deem it wildy successful

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2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

 

Maybe 1 that isn't a gimmick WR like Samuel? A true #1 WR who he can't take off the field and becomes a security blanket when he's having games like today. You saw it on the last drive that Allen was literally doing everything on his own because these WR's cannot get open. 

Yeah imagine if we had a guy like Stefon Diggs. Surely his production wouldn’t fall off a cliff under Joe Brady and we’d win the Super Bowl.

1 minute ago, nosejob said:

That's just BS....signed  Elijah Moore

Taking a guy that put up respectable numbers with a non-stop carousel of terrible QBs and making him look incompetent with Josh Allen at QB should be an arrestable offence.

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He really doesn't look like hes having fun at times.  

 

Like Josh can say he's more than a football player, or that if a SB happens it happens and he's not worried about it, game doesn't define him, but right now it seems like he's not enjoying the game.  Also, looks like he's a step slower when trying to rush, which makes sense, he's almost 30, but if we are in his shoes we'd probably be feeling similarly, or maybe we're reading too much into it....probably the later.  Still, lot of thoughts probably running through his head, he's given this team all he could and it may not be enough.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

As soon as I saw Ray Davis in there for the onsides, that tells me they already mailed it in anyway.

 

Yea what the hell was that?  I mean how much time does he practice onside kicks? Was there concern over the Prater injury?  I mean I would think an old timer like Prater has some wicked spins or hops he could put on the ball.  But Davis?  That looked like a bad HS onside kick.

 

 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Nitro said:

This game is an indictment of the coaching staff and the players.   Once again, they come into a game looking slow to start and have no pulse on offense.  A new WR would not cure this.  Game plan, execution, and QB play that is erratic.  The O line was good enough but when Miami put 8 to 10 men in the box they were over matched.   Allen has to check out of that.  The passing game and routes they run are uninspiring.  Defense is injury ravaged and played well until they collapsed in the fourth quarter.  Sloppy play across the board.  Strength and conditioning needs a hard look with all these soft tissue injuries.  Once a one seed pick is now a fight to make the playoffs.  I have been a fan for 60 years and this is one of the most aggravating teams to watch.  On paper, this team is awesome, but the injuries have rendered them into a middle of the pack team.  Looking forward to the draft is premature but not too far off.   A win against Tampa Bay will not soothe these wounds.

 

If they continue playing like this, I don't think a win vs Tampa is even something we can be confident in.  Same against the game after that in Houston and the game after that in Pittsburgh.

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