11/9/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Dolphins Post Game Thread

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

You gotta get Colman off the field. Whatever he is or can be…he’s not good enough. Please start working in another guy on the outside. Samuel, Moore or Davis. One of those guys needs to play opposite Palmer. I don’t care if we play Shakir on the outside you just have to come off the Coleman usage. Bernard as well. He has to go to the bench. I don’t care if he’s a captain, I don’t care what he was…it’s over. Make the move now and start trying to change the direction of this thing going forward. There’s a lot of season left but we have seen enough time know what’s not working 

[Allen2Moulds]

I wonder if this team has regular season fatigue, and is just going throw the motion sometimes. This is the most Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde team that we've had under McDermott.

[PromoTheRobot]

23 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Diggs maybe.  Hollins is not better than Shakir or Palmer.  

 

106 yards today. 

[Sojourner]

15 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

The part owners who were all pro athletes might save us.

 

They could be in Pegula's ears about how short an athlete's career is and the need to act before it's beside the point. 

You’d hope so. Especially seeing as one of them was a generational talent who had their career derailed by injury. Kobe Bryant himself said T-Mac was one of the hardest and pursest scorers to defend. 
 

Thinking more on it, no. I don’t think they will. 
 

I am probably wrong but I’ve always maintained that those guys were brought in exclusively for their ties to the “American sports” market that resides in Toronto; Carter and McGrady for the Raptors and Jozy Altidore for Toronto FC. Wouldn’t surprise me if we scrap them being in the international series abroad in favor of the Toronto series again, which would equate to an international game you would think? I would rather that, selfishly, than them travel to Europe, Brasil, Mexico or the plans for Asia in the future. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Sojourner

[MasterStrategist]

24 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I don't think McDermott is opposed to throwing a football 

 

He was opposed to throwing it 40 times and running 10 times which is not a Super bowl winning strategy either 

 

If we had John Brown Beasley and digs again and they were running well I have no doubt McDermott would throw more 

 

Beane is the one signing and drafting wide receivers

 

When you're paying an offensive line and a quarterback and a running back there's not much money to go around for wide receiver you have to hit on the pics and pro personnel acquisitions 

 

Something that we really haven't hit on since Brown and Beasley 

 

That's big... McDermott can only work with what he is given... Unlike Bill belichick he is not in full control if he was they wouldn't need Brandon Beane 

 

McDermott would just have a GM title also like BB... Beane got the praise for bringing in diggs, brown ... Not McDermott 

 

You should also get the blame for not bringing in any more dogs

Glad someone else sees it the same as i do.

 

Beane hit on the Smoke, Beas, Diggs trade, Sanders signing.

 

But hes literally missed on the exact type of cap FA decisions ( Samuel, Palmer).  Then on Kincaid and Keon, 2 guys that either came stay healthy or produce consistently.  Add on the contract decisions of Knox and Shakir.  And the dead cap of Diggs.

 

Beane hit on a lot early in his tenure--- any coincidence with having Dan Morgan, Joe Schoen, and others around him?

 

Im not a Beane believer in how he drafts for need, and runs into issues because of it.  His scouting group isnt great either.

 

[Psautcsk]

29 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Diggs maybe.  Hollins is not better than Shakir or Palmer.  

Hollins plays, Palmer doesn't

[BeastMaster]

27 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Diggs maybe.  Hollins is not better than Shakir or Palmer.  

Hollins is absolutely better than Palmer

 

There is zero evidence of Josh Palmer being anything but a JAG 

 

Hollins hasn't done a whole lot either, but he's done more than Palmer and showed up in big moments 

 

Palmer got shelved on the Chargers and got injured here after a bunch of games where he was mostly a non factor

[muppy]

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However, the McDefense is nearly always McFeeble. Going into this game, against a 2-7 team, all Miami had was Tagovailoa, Waddle and Achane. Tagovailoa was sacked not at all, Waddle and Achane put up over 300 yards of offense and 3 td's.

The injuries. 49'ers have plenty too, including starting qb, same amt of wins we have. Injuries leave two choices, real coaches will adjust their schemes to compensate. I mean why would you just keep doing the same thing with progressively worse players as you go lower in your depth chart ? Stands to reason performance will get worse. Other coaches will just roll over and lose 30-13 to a 2-7 team while pretending they are contenders.

So now the McOffense joins the McDefense in the land of wtf.
 

this was a take from one of my friend from another board #Mace  

Edited 42 minutes ago by muppy

[TheFunPolice]

1 minute ago, Sojourner said:

You’d hope so. Especially seeing as one of them was a generational talent who had their career derailed by injury. Kobe Bryant himself said T-Mac was one of the hardest and pursest scorers to defend. 
 

Thinking more on it, no. I don’t think they will. 
 

I am probably wrong but I’ve always maintained that those guys were brought in exclusively for their ties to the “American sports” market that resides in Toronto; Carter and McGrady for the Raptors and Jozy Altidore for Toronto FC. Wouldn’t surprise me if we scrap the international series abroad in favor of the Toronto series again, which would equate to an international game you would think? I would rather that, selfishly, than them travel to Europe, Brasil, South America or the plans for Asia in the future. 

 

I agree that they were mostly added to help sell whatever the team has planned for Toronto in the near future.

 

The team rep who said they would "probably" play most of their home games in the new stadium for the short term raised many eyebrows. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Now the patriots have better WRs…the same guys that everyone here said weren’t good enough lol it’s the DEFENSE. How many big runs did we give up today? When do we ever make a stop when we have to get the ball back? Cmon with this wake up 

[Sojourner]

Just now, TheFunPolice said:

 

I agree that they were mostly added to help sell whatever the team has planned for Toronto in the near future.

 

The team rep who said they would "probably" play most of their home games in the new stadium for the short term raised many eyebrows. 

For sure. I am surprised that was overlooked and passed up by a lot of journalists. 
 

Hopefully, for all those who forked out the lofty PSLs and lofty future ticket prices that anything like that is down the road. 
 

Would be very distasteful to do that to your fan base a few years into the move. Then again, I watched a video on how they gouged the tax payer on a historical level for pro sports teams moving into a new stadium….

[Psautcsk]

22 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Hollins is a spark plug, he brought an energy to the 0ffense last year.  Along with alec anderson, the two of them brought an attitude to the field, they were always mixing it up after plays and keeping everyone excited.  That is missing big time this year.  Hollins plays every week and catches pretty much anything thrown to him. 

 

my understanding is the pats offered him 2 years at 10 million and that was apparently to much for buffalo.  Hollins had a great game today, important timely catches and played with his hair on fire all game in the running game from what I could see.

 

I bet Josh Allen sees the highlights of Hollins catching third downs and deep balls at that on third down and bites down hard and keeps his mouth shut.  

 

It was a mistake not bringing back Hollins.  Palmer was an always hurt guy and they bet he would stay healthy here.  He hasn't and now the season is in a tough spot and who knows when he will play.  I wanted them to sign for Darius Slayton, an always hurt guy too but when he plays he can get open in the deep third of the field.  They signed palmer instead.  Palmer and moore have just not done anything.

 

I would take hollins and what he brought to the team in the big picture over moore or palmer and fwiw hollins makes more plays down the field than shakir and costs less money.  Most importantly Hollins plays every damn week which is the most important trait.  

 

Everything that can go wrong this year has gone wrong.  Allen must be sick watching drake maye throw balls to a wide open hollins  every week.

You are 100% correct. Why the Bills did not pay him was absurd. He is better than any wide receiver we have and plays the way professional athletes should.

[Juice_32]

I actually think Palmer coming back will help. Josh seemed comfortable going his way in a few big spots before he went down. He's probably the best separator we have.

[Since1981]

Less on D. O was awful. Don’t have to be a football guru. D held on as long as they could.  

Edited 1 hour ago by Since1981

[Bill51390]

Brady’s got to go. He’s clueless when it comes to the passing game. Doesn’t know how to utilize his receiver at all. Calls the same ***** over and over again. 

[Psautcsk]

7 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

Hollins is absolutely better than Palmer

 

There is zero evidence of Josh Palmer being anything but a JAG 

 

Hollins hasn't done a whole lot either, but he's done more than Palmer and showed up in big moments 

 

Palmer got shelved on the Chargers and got injured here after a bunch of games where he was mostly a non factor

Does anyone think that Palmer can catch the ball in the cold? That is, if he is even on the field the rest of the year.

[RangerDave]

I'm thinking that somewhere down the line, people are going to be indicted for throwing this game due to betting.  Yup, that explains why the Bills lost to the Phins.  Yep.

[Since1981]

We all knew Hollins was important. Everyone knew. Especially, with this sweeeeet WR room!!

[MasterStrategist]

1 minute ago, Since1981 said:

Less on D. O was awful. Don’t have to be a football guru. D held on as long as they could.  

100% - obviously people haven't watched Miami this season.  They came still move the ball, its been turnovers and bad defense holding them back.  

 

Our offense decided to take a nap today.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Remember when Dorsey was fired, Brady took over and we heard a lot of “this is Josh Allen’s offense now” 

 

I wonder what JA is thinking these days