Taylor Rapp to IR

[FireChans]

9 hours ago, Success said:

Hmmmmm.  Seems people are forgetting that Rapp was kinda good for us last year.

 

 

The history of the NFL is littered with players who were kinda good for a season and then basically reverted to form. 
 

Rapp has been a replacement level safety his whole career outside of last season.

[No_Matter_What]

16 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

They had 5 guys at the position to start the season.  Three of them got hurt.  They brought a veteran in the system back with Poyer.  What the hell do you want?  You can’t have endless guys at every position.

Not to mention that saying that having 2nd year 2nd round pick as your starter is "complete failure" on team building is just silly.

 

You may not like the player but it's not team building failure. 

16 hours ago, NewEra said:

I don’t think we’re signed only so they could get them a ring

Yeah but when you try criticize everyone and everything you don't care.

[No_Matter_What]

15 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

It's not just that this GM drafts a ton of defensive players. The coach won't play half of them. 

 

He won't dress our 3rd round pick. 

 

We have injuries everywhere in the secondary and we drafted like 15 DBs this year but some never even get a chance. 

 

It's a pattern. Every year certain rookies might as well just be cut, because they are never getting a chance. 

 

For guys that are "one mind" this is bizarre. 

Again, what are you even talking about?

 

Walker is a starter. Hawes plays a lot. Sanders played a lot until he was hurt. Strong played until he was hurt and if he wasn't he'd be most likely starting at this point. Same with Hairston.

 

Only guys they don't play are Jackson who is deep in depth chart and Hancock.

 

And they play rookies every year. You make no sense.

[Not at the table Karlos]

35 minutes ago, FireChans said:

The history of the NFL is littered with players who were kinda good for a season and then basically reverted to form. 
 

Rapp has been a replacement level safety his whole career outside of last season.

He was replacement level last year too. 

[SoCal Deek]

10 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

"There are NOT 170 safeties in the Draft"? What kind of goal post moving is that? That's not the point.

 

The point is a player taken at the Bottom of the 5th Round at Pick 170 is 9.9 times out of 10 not a starting quality prospect. Let alone expected to be a Starter in their Rookie year.

 

This would be like complaining that Javon Solomon wasn't made ready to start last season. Or that Justin Shorter should have been expected to save us at WR the year before.

 

You want to complain about us not addressing Safety more than we did this season? That's f

ine. But being upset that the 170th pick in the Draft, at best our 4th Safety on the Depth Chart (possibly below that), wasn't being prepared to start from the jump is ridiculous.

It’s not goalpost moving any more than your post. You have to look at the position players play. Football isn’t like the other sports. Players play completely different positions, and they rarely change. And, a lot depends on how strong the need is by the 32 NFL teams that particular year, and by how strong the Class of rookies was at that position that particular year. So yes, while a player may have been taken 170th in the overall draft order, he may have been the third or fourth best safety in the nation that year. (I’m not saying that was the case here, but the point still applies.) I hope that clarifies my earlier post.

[kkim0904]

18 hours ago, NoName said:

I wonder if they will start Cam Lewis and Cole Bishop over Poyer and Bishop

How about Cam Lewis and Poyer..

[TheFunPolice]

11 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

Again, what are you even talking about?

 

Walker is a starter. Hawes plays a lot. Sanders played a lot until he was hurt. Strong played until he was hurt and if he wasn't he'd be most likely starting at this point. Same with Hairston.

 

Only guys they don't play are Jackson who is deep in depth chart and Hancock.

 

And they play rookies every year. You make no sense.

 

Perhaps my perception is incorrect.

 

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

On 10/24/2025 at 11:36 AM, Success said:

 

I think Bishop is really progressing & will be very good for us by season's end.  But otherwise, agreed.

 

 

Bishop- dude misses too many tackles and gets lost in space.  Otherwise, he's fine.  

[JoshAllin]

People like cam lewis because he's a hometown guy, but if hes a starter you can pretty much stick a fork in this defense

[DrPJax]

On 10/24/2025 at 11:55 AM, BuffaloBillyG said:

Well if they bring Poyer up to play next to him I think having a guy who is basically a coach in the field can be an asset to Bishop. He seems like a smart kid. Just needs reps and experience. I think the tools are there.

       Yeah , but who covers for poyers lack of speed while he’s teaching bishop?  It’s a ridiculous premise , bringing back players you cut two years ago for declining play and now suddenly they are answers for the starting lineup?  It’s laughable , it’s a lack of vision by Beane and it’s his worst moves as the gm so far forced by his inability to draft well enough to have young talent developing.  No other franchise is operating like this.  .  If your draft picks are all injured and not adding much outside of one pick , then you are failing and your priorities need adjusting. It’s the 9 th year of the process which has not reached a SB, let alone win one , and there are other teams progressing now like the pats, broncos , colts , while the chiefs are looking like their  consistent  afc championship form.  Bills d is the worst by far against the run and SB teams usually run well and stop the run well. This has the warning signs of another failed year , and Allen’s career is going by rapidly. He is pressing and not processing well as he can’t trust the wr corps. 
       Holding on to this coaching regime next year is just accepting the status quo by fearing change. Pegula has not proven he can manage to produce championship caliber franchises, and he appears to lack true sports knowledge .  Carolina goes in today undefeated at home on a 3 game wining  streak while the  Bills come in losing two in a row , ranked 31 st in the nfl  against the run. If they lose today , the wheels are falling off and KC will prove just how lacking the Bills are next weeek. Beane should be held accountable, yet imo it won’t happen. 

[Ya Digg?]

On 10/24/2025 at 11:35 AM, KentuckyBillsFan said:

Shadow benching.

 

It's 2025 and Jordan Poyer and Cole Bishop are the starting safeties. Just a complete failure of team building at this position.

So a 2nd round pick starting in his 2nd year is a complete failure, got it. Not even lying, I LOVE the irrational reactions people have on here

[BuffaloBillyG]

18 minutes ago, DrPJax said:

       Yeah , but who covers for poyers lack of speed while he’s teaching bishop?  It’s a ridiculous premise , bringing back players you cut two years ago for declining play and now suddenly they are answers for the starting lineup?  It’s laughable , it’s a lack of vision by Beane and it’s his worst moves as the gm so far forced by his inability to draft well enough to have young talent developing.  No other franchise is operating like this.  .  If your draft picks are all injured and not adding much outside of one pick , then you are failing and your priorities need adjusting. It’s the 9 th year of the process which has not reached a SB, let alone win one , and there are other teams progressing now like the pats, broncos , colts , while the chiefs are looking like their  consistent  afc championship form.  Bills d is the worst by far against the run and SB teams usually run well and stop the run well. This has the warning signs of another failed year , and Allen’s career is going by rapidly. He is pressing and not processing well as he can’t trust the wr corps. 
       Holding on to this coaching regime next year is just accepting the status quo by fearing change. Pegula has not proven he can manage to produce championship caliber franchises, and he appears to lack true sports knowledge .  Carolina goes in today undefeated at home on a 3 game wining  streak while the  Bills come in losing two in a row , ranked 31 st in the nfl  against the run. If they lose today , the wheels are falling off and KC will prove just how lacking the Bills are next weeek. Beane should be held accountable, yet imo it won’t happen. 

Well in that long rambling response, there are a few things I feel I probably should point out.

 

1. I don't disagree with you that Poyer being brought back should never have happened. But it did. And that's where we are. And yes, having his experience next to Bishop will help. I, too would have rather seen someone else brought in.

 

2. You can't, by and large, predict injuries. Especially in rookies that were fairly healthy in college. Ironically, the guy they drafted with I jury concerns has been fine. It's a rough sport. 

 

3. People still refer to "the process"? That's hysterical. 

 

4. Pegula hasn't shown he can produce a championship caliber team. But outside of KC and Philadelphia, who has? 

 

5. Carolina coming in on a 3 game streak won't help them when the ball gets kicked off today. Nor will the Bills 2 straight losses hurt them. It's the 60 minutes after kickoff that will define today.

 

6. Here's a swerve. I don't care if KC beats us next week. We always beat them in regular season and lose in the playoffs. Maybe a loss to them in regular season flips the script. 

 

7. I love the hidden "FIRE MCBEANE" rhetoric. Let me guess. This has been your stance since 13 seconds. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

9 hours ago, JoshAllin said:

People like cam lewis because he's a hometown guy, but if hes a starter you can pretty much stick a fork in this defense

He has had some decent games starting in place of Taron. 

Im not sure he's ever started a game at safety though.