Max Hairston to return to practice from IR

[That's No Moon]

With their recent DB drafting history I'll be excited when it's time to be excited.

[boyst]

1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:

If we wanted him so much why didn't we trade up to get him? Also as good as McDuffie been in the slot would he have had playing time here behind Taron? 

I think if he's a good enough player, which I think he is he would have found the field

[BillsFanForever19]

9 hours ago, Mat68 said:

I think when he is activated he will see the field. Secondary play has been rough.  Having some juice in the room will be refreshing.

 

He'll see the field. I never questioned that. But they aren't going to put a ton on his plate that first week. He'll be cycled in on a small number of plays. They'll ramp him up over the next couple weeks if he looks like he's taking to things well. But he's not moving Tre to the bench full time for a good number of weeks.

[Paup 1995MVP]

10 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

He'll see the field. I never questioned that. But they aren't going to put a ton on his plate that first week. He'll be cycled in on a small number of plays. They'll ramp him up over the next couple weeks if he looks like he's taking to things well. But he's not moving Tre to the bench full time for a good number of weeks.

The guy is a first round pick with blazing speed.  Something most of us have not seen on the field at CB for the Bills since Leodis McKelvin or maybe even Nate Clements.  The fact that we are starting Tre White at CB, let alone that he was ever brought back on the roster is a scathing indictment of the organization.  

 

Do you watch the other NFL teams?  No team has aging veterans (who can't run a lick) starting on their back end.  If anything, when they have a bunch of injuries, most teams play a lot of young guys like the Lions and the 49ers did over the past two nights.  And both teams did quite well because the players all understand the scheme, which I would assume they keep simple to allow the players' athleticism to take over, and our coached up during the week, and throughout the season.

 

If Hairston is physically ready to play, and his head is in the game, he needs to be on the field.  

[BillsFanForever19]

18 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

The guy is a first round pick with blazing speed.  Something most of us have not seen on the field at CB for the Bills since Leodis McKelvin or maybe even Nate Clements.  The fact that we are starting Tre White at CB, let alone that he was ever brought back on the roster is a scathing indictment of the organization.  

 

Do you watch the other NFL teams?  No team has aging veterans (who can't run a lick) starting on their back end.  If anything, when they have a bunch of injuries, most teams play a lot of young guys like the Lions and the 49ers did over the past two nights.  And both teams did quite well because the players all understand the scheme, which I would assume they keep simple to allow the players' athleticism to take over, and our coached up during the week, and throughout the season.

 

If Hairston is physically ready to play, and his head is in the game, he needs to be on the field.  

 

Can you name me a team that takes a Rookie who's never played a down in the NFL, coming off of a Knee injury, missed half of Training Camp, all of the Pre-Season, hasn't practiced with the team in any way since July, and then threw them in the fire and started them at Cornerback immediately?

 

He will see the field when he's ready. That's not a question. But he's going to need a couple weeks of practicing with the team and gelling with the guys around him and getting his assignments down before that happens. And when it happens, they aren't just taking White off the field and sticking him on the bench full time. He'll have to be eased in to get his feet underneath him, going up against other teams. It's going to be a multi week ramping up and easing in process.

 

I get being mortified by Tre and being eager to get Hairston in there. But you can't expect a Rookie coming off a knee injury to be immediately activated and immediately started bc of that. He has to show he's ready. Forcing a Rookie into a tough situation before they're ready, that's how you ruin a player.

 

You and this post is a prime example of why McDermott always stresses "managing expectations" every time Hairston is brought up by the media. They aren't going to change their development plan with him out of fan impatience or bc Tre is sucking. Hairston was going to get the same ease in process had he not gotten hurt. His getting hurt won't change things and make them push him harder now. Things just got pushed back.

 

If all goes well, I'd expect Hairston to start by Week 11 or Week 12. 

Edited 52 minutes ago by BillsFanForever19

[Paup 1995MVP]

12 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Can you name me a team that takes a Rookie who's never played a down in the NFL, coming off of a Knee injury, missed half of Training Camp, all of the Pre-Season, hasn't practiced with the team in any way since July, and then threw them in the fire and started them at Cornerback immediately?

 

He will see the field when he's ready. That's not a question. But he's going to need a couple weeks of practicing with the team and gelling with the guys around him and getting his assignments down before that happens. And when it happens, they aren't just taking White on the field. He'll have to be eased in to get his feet underneath him, going up against other teams. It's going to be a multi week ramping up and easing in process.

 

I get being mortified by Tre and being eager to get Hairston in there. But you can't expect a Rookie coming off a knee injury to be immediately activated and immediately started bc of that. He has to show he's ready. Forcing a Rookie into a tough situation before they're ready, that's how you ruin a player.

 

You and this post is a prime example of why McDermott always stresses "managing expectations" every time Hairston is brought up by the media. They aren't going to change their development plan with him out of fan impatience or bc Tre is sucking. Hairston was going to get the same ease in process had he not gotten hurt. His getting hurt won't change things and make them push him harder now. Things just got pushed back.

 

If all goes well, I'd expect Hairston to start by Week 11 or Week 12. 

I understand your thinking.  And it makes sense.  However, there should have been a better plan this offseason at CB.  

 

I just don’t think that Tre White should have been in the teams plans period.  There had to have been other options at veteran CB to bring in to compete for playing time.  Poyer Hyde Tre were all real good in their time.  But we never got to the Suoer Bowl with any of them.  Now they are all old-NFL wise.  Time to move on from the past.  

 

the organization seems stuck in a time warp from 2020-2021.  I don’t get it. 

[LarryMadman]

Sunday will be 89 days since Max hurt his knee, how bad was it? Was it just a sprain or something else? Seems like its been an awful long time Max has been sidelined whereas other guys in all sports seem to maybe miss a week or 3 due to something similar, a knee sprain. Something kind of stinks about this whole situation.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

22 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

Sunday will be 89 days since Max hurt his knee, how bad was it? Was it just a sprain or something else? Seems like its been an awful long time Max has been sidelined whereas other guys in all sports seem to maybe miss a week or 3 due to something similar, a knee sprain. Something kind of stinks about this whole situation.

There’s different grades of sprains…serious LCL sprain could very reasonably take 6 weeks+ to heal 

 

a mild LCL sprain for just a normal non athlete they usually tell you you can get back to normal activities in a month possibly wearing a brace but normal activities doesn’t include covering nfl wideouts 😂

Edited 4 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[BuffaloRebound]

3 months to return from a sprain is kinda on brand for this team right now.  No urgency, sleepwalking through the first 6 games.  We’ll see if they can flip a switch for the remainder of the season.  

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

3 months to return from a sprain is kinda on brand for this team right now.  No urgency, sleepwalking through the first 6 games.  We’ll see if they can flip a switch for the remainder of the season.  

 

You understand there are different grades of sprains right? Not all of them are of the garden variety, few weeks to heal.

 

You'd rather they rush him back so he can tear it and then be done for the year?

 

Apparently common sense no longer exists on this board 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

22 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

I mean he got hurt in the first practice of TC didn't he?  How does that have any relevancy?

The relevancy is a rookie CB having extremely limited experience taking professional snaps and whether or not it's practical to expect him to play any meaningful snaps anytime soon. 
 

I hope in 21-ish days he can step right in and platoon with White, but I that would actually be a "lucky turn of events" than anything else. 
 

I know there is a big "can't be worse" crowd, but the awkward thing is: it can. An argument can be made that Johnson/Benford have been more inconsistent than White. 

[HappyDays]

 

[TH3]

15 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Can you name me a team that takes a Rookie who's never played a down in the NFL, coming off of a Knee injury, missed half of Training Camp, all of the Pre-Season, hasn't practiced with the team in any way since July, and then threw them in the fire and started them at Cornerback immediately?

 

He will see the field when he's ready. That's not a question. But he's going to need a couple weeks of practicing with the team and gelling with the guys around him and getting his assignments down before that happens. And when it happens, they aren't just taking White on the field. He'll have to be eased in to get his feet underneath him, going up against other teams. It's going to be a multi week ramping up and easing in process.

 

I get being mortified by Tre and being eager to get Hairston in there. But you can't expect a Rookie coming off a knee injury to be immediately activated and immediately started bc of that. He has to show he's ready. Forcing a Rookie into a tough situation before they're ready, that's how you ruin a player.

 

You and this post is a prime example of why McDermott always stresses "managing expectations" every time Hairston is brought up by the media. They aren't going to change their development plan with him out of fan impatience or bc Tre is sucking. Hairston was going to get the same ease in process had he not gotten hurt. His getting hurt won't change things and make them push him harder now. Things just got pushed back.

 

If all goes well, I'd expect Hairston to start by Week 11 or Week 12. 

We started a rooking cb this year already

[bills742]

 

[HappyDays]

After watching our CBs this year, watching this video is like a caveman seeing fire for the first time.

[RobbRiddick]

40 minutes ago, bills742 said:

 

As a doctor I can tell you we recommend patients wearing braces as it helps give them confidence in their previously injured leg so they don’t favor the “healthy” leg, which sometimes lead to further injury

[Paup 1995MVP]

2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

3 months to return from a sprain is kinda on brand for this team right now.  No urgency, sleepwalking through the first 6 games.  We’ll see if they can flip a switch for the remainder of the season.  

I am not an orthopedist, so I don't know how serious a sprain really is.  But I can see your point in the sense that a sprain sounds a lot less serious than a tear.  When JJ McCarthy supposedly tore his meniscus last year in the preseason, I thought he would be out a month or two, (You would not think a Meniscus tear would take that long to recover from with relatively minor arthroscopic surgery involved.) but he missed the entire 2024 season.  So who really knows on the outside how serious an injury really is. 

 

But I do agree with your point about the team playing with no urgency through the first 6 games.  We played that way in the second preseason game at Chicago.  Granted it was all back up and fringe guys.  But we were awful, and showed nothing.  That may have been a harbinger of things to come.  Hopefully the team is angry and pissed off.  And comes out playing like that.  And that carries over for the rest of the season.  Because the Chiefs look real strong.  The Colts are playing with great confidence on offense.  So are the Pats playing with great confidence across the board.  The Steelers certainly don't suck this year.  And the Broncos and Chargers are in the mix. 

 

We certainly need to show that we are not just an aging team going through the motions.  Lets Go!!  

[LarryMadman]

2 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

There’s different grades of sprains…serious LCL sprain could very reasonably take 6 weeks+ to heal 

 

a mild LCL sprain for just a normal non athlete they usually tell you you can get back to normal activities in a month possibly wearing a brace but normal activities doesn’t include covering nfl wideouts 😂

Ok, i get it but its been 12+ weeks and counting.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

48 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

Ok, i get it but it’s been 12+ weeks and counting.

It kinda makes sense to me to wait to the bye to ramp up activities for him…LCL sprains are pretty rare so it’s hard to say but one I know of was Treylon burks who came back fairly quick and injured his knee again a month later then tore his acl after those two knee injuries that same year 

 

maybe there’s a reinjury risk angle.  Seeing as that’s pretty much half the sample size of dudes that only sprained their LCL I could see why a team would be cautious.  It’s not some veteran player…you can tank his whole career if his knee takes another bad injury 

Edited 1 hour ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[BillsFanForever19]

2 hours ago, TH3 said:

We started a rooking cb this year already

 

Yeah, a Rookie who had all of Training Camp and all of the Pre-Season. A Rookie that they determined was ready.

 

Not a Rookie who missed half of TC, all of the Pre-Season, hasn't practiced with the team since July, hasn't played a game of Football in close to a year, and most importantly - is coming off of a knee injury and one that they haven't had the time on field to determine whether they're ready.

 

Also, Strong was pretty much out of complete necessity. Hairston was hurt. Tre was hurt. He earned the start for 1 week and then immediately went back to a limited snap count role.

Edited 48 minutes ago by BillsFanForever19