Plausible X/#1 receiver trade candidates — are there any?

[MikePJ76]

5 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Shaheed is no blocker. 

he had a miserable game yesterday.  If he were to have been here and fumbled twice people would be losing their mind.

[Warriorspikes51]

12 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said:

I'm wondering if J. Jeudy may not be the most logical and realistic option at this point? He is in a terrible situation in Cleveland (only saw 2 passes thrown his direction yesterday), has had some success in the past, still has some tread on his tires, and Beane has had a working relationship with the Browns front office in the past. Also, a trade like this wouldn't cost an arm and a leg, I am guessing a mid-round pick?

22 receptions on 54 targets is rather concerning.  How much is just him not being good this year?

[NewEra]

10 minutes ago, SC STATE NUPE said:

Thanks for that info! Well you’re right, that’s not possible. But I want Jeudy over all those other receivers. He’s really the only one that could turn into a one. Those other guys are “JAGs” who would be blockers and targeted 1-2 times a game. We need somebody who is a real receiver…

What other guys?  Olave or shaheed?  BTj?  I don’t know who else is being discussed, but either of those 3 are better fits for us than Jeudy imo.  

[BuffaloBillyG]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

What other guys?  Olave or shaheed?  BTj?  I don’t know who else is being discussed, but either of those 3 are better fits for us than Jeudy imo.  

Well, being the drum beat is that Olave and BTJ are not likely to be moved at all... Shaheed is the only plausible guy there...so it's time to think outside what has been discussed. That's why I brought up Jeudy a few days ago, myself. We need talent. Scheme can be adjusted but talent can't be taught.

[MikePJ76]

Just now, SC STATE NUPE said:

Josh struggles terribly throwing to his left, and he rarely goes there. In that playoff game against the Chiefs two years ago, he missed Diggs completely wide open crossing left. He hits there, they get the first and bleed the clock. I remember the opener last year against the cardinals, Samuels and Kincaid were wide open at least 4-5 times each, but he never looks that way. Josh also struggles on route anticipation throws. They ran two quick plays to Coleman yesterday that I’ve always wondered why they never use him in that manner. I think it’s more Josh than the receivers. It’s like we’re not allowed to criticize Josh in here or abroad. I don’t think it’s our receivers not getting open. They would’ve never got to this level if they couldn’t. You’re gonna tell me the Colts receivers with Jones at QB are that much better? It’s the QB and OC… But because I like Josh, I’ve blamed the OC for awhile. Yesterday has me worried going forward though…

I don't buy Josh struggles throwing left in any way.

 

Go watch the fourth quarter of the season opener vs the ravens, made a bunch of terrific throws to his left.

[2003Contenders]

5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

22 receptions on 54 targets is rather concerning.  How much is just him not being good this year?

That is certainly a fair point. After all, he is 2nd (ironically behind BTJ, who many on this board are clamoring giving up a 1st round pick to acquire) in the NFL with 8 drops on the season.

 

I guess we would have to look at why the productivity has been so bad. I am wondering if it could be a situation where a change of scenery and the chance to play for a genuine contender could help in those regards.

[SC STATE NUPE]

10 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

22 receptions on 54 targets is rather concerning.  How much is just him not being good this year?

They have the worst QBs in the entire league… Nobody is putting up numbers there…

[stlbills13]

1 minute ago, SC STATE NUPE said:

Josh struggles terribly throwing to his left, and he rarely goes there. In that playoff game against the Chiefs two years ago, he missed Diggs completely wide open crossing left. He hits there, they get the first and bleed the clock. I remember the opener last year against the cardinals, Samuels and Kincaid were wide open at least 4-5 times each, but he never looks that way. Josh also struggles on route anticipation throws. They ran two quick plays to Coleman yesterday that I’ve always wondered why they never use him in that manner. I think it’s more Josh than the receivers. It’s like we’re not allowed to criticize Josh in here or abroad. I don’t think it’s our receivers not getting open. They would’ve never got to this level if they couldn’t. You’re gonna tell me the Colts receivers with Jones at QB are that much better? It’s the QB and OC… But because I like Josh, I’ve blamed the OC for awhile. Yesterday has me worried going forward though…

 

I agree with a lot of this. And I don't mean this as an excuse but I'm also not 100% sure Josh is healthy. 

 

I do think there is a scheme issue and more than anything is too predictable. We never seem to catch a defensive player out of position. 

 

But the WR room is just not good. And I think Beane's radio comments this year have made the WR issues amplified in the minds of fans

[starrymessenger]

Although he has all the talent in the world I'm not sure that BTJ has the makings of a true #1 receiver. He was force fed the ball last year because he was pretty much all they had. He lined up about 75% of the time outside last year. This year they wanted to leverage his speed, quickness and separation ability by lining him up in the slot at least 40% of the time, like a true #1 actually. It hasn't worked out so far. 
It's possible that BJTs true value is more like a high end #2. Having said that I'd be prepared to roll the dice by offering a first, though I feel this is an overpay all things considered. Then I would line him up the vast majority of the time outside the way the Jags did last year and let him run mostly push routes. 
My preference though would be to send a third and change to the Saints for Shaheed.

[Bangarang]

Beane is going to create an account to yell at everyone for even suggesting we need help at WR. 

[stlbills13]

He hasn't been good this year but is Darnell Mooney gettable/appealing? I've always been a fan but kind of feels like more of the same on our roster in terms of nobody special. 

[Success]

I know I'm adding to the chorus - but it would be ridiculous to expect that our passing offense will magically improve once we get to the playoffs and have to face the best defenses in the league in consecutive weeks.

 

This isn't gonna work right now.  We're either serious about winning a SB this season, or we're not.

 

[Warriorspikes51]

11 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

Although he has all the talent in the world I'm not sure that BTJ has the makings of a true #1 receiver. He was force fed the ball last year because he was pretty much all they had. He lined up about 75% of the time outside last year. This year they wanted to leverage his speed, quickness and separation ability by lining him up in the slot at least 40% of the time, like a true #1 actually. It hasn't worked out so far. 
It's possible that BJTs true value is more like a high end #2. Having said that I'd be prepared to roll the dice by offering a first, though I feel this is an overpay all things considered. Then I would line him up the vast majority of the time outside the way the Jags did last year and let him run mostly push routes. 
My preference though would be to send a third and change to the Saints for Shaheed.

 

Beane won't pay whatever price Jags want anyway IMO

[BuffaloBillyG]

8 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Beane won't pay whatever price Jags want anyway IMO

This has always been the most likely outcome barring a Herschel Walker type offer 

[starrymessenger]

6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Beane won't pay whatever price Jags want anyway IMO

If he stands pat then he needs to be fired. He has got to do something otherwise this team will be an also ran. With a #1 or reasonable facsimile they at least have a chance, assuming Brady can pull his head out of his…

[jahnyc]

Jags would be crazy to move BJT even with the poor year he is having so far given last year's performance and being on a rookie deal for at least two more years.  Jeudy and other WRs in the mix of suggestions for trades may not be available due to their high dead cap cost if traded by the selling team.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Well, being the drum beat is that Olave and BTJ are not likely to be moved at all... Shaheed is the only plausible guy there...so it's time to think outside what has been discussed. That's why I brought up Jeudy a few days ago, myself. We need talent. Scheme can be adjusted but talent can't be taught.

I don’t see how the browns can move jeudy, but I guess anything is possible

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

I don’t see how the browns can move jeudy, but I guess anything is possible

That's the key. Front offices find ways to make it work. Wasn't that long ago we were told the Bills couldn't move Diggs because bof the money. 

[Sweats]

54 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Beane is going to create an account to yell at everyone for even suggesting we need help at WR. 

 

 

 

 

Beane should create a dummy account on here, going after Beane that he should get a plausible WR

[FireChans]

7 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

That's the key. Front offices find ways to make it work. Wasn't that long ago we were told the Bills couldn't move Diggs because bof the money. 

The Bills FO didn’t make the Diggs trade happen. Diggs did.

 

I think it’s frankly obvious the Bills didn’t want to move Diggs and eat a massive cap hit. 
 

Jeudy would need to make things untenable in the locker room. Which basically would be the same reason any player would get moved. If Jefferson demands a trade and says he won’t suit up for the Vikings, that would be great too but unlikely.