BillsShredder83 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 10 hours ago, racketmaster said: Moore is still expected to play this week and he has missed just 2 games in 7+ seasons in the NFL. I would say he is much more durable than Olave who missed 9 games just last year with the concussions. He has also had previous concussions and ankle injuries that have caused him to miss games in previous seasons. The concussions make me nervous because the more a player has the longer the recovery time seems to be and the Bills have had poor luck in recent seasons with guys staying healthy as is. I know you cant just look at an isolated part of a guys med history to judge his health. Hes had injury history... and once you've had them, the correlation > cause. Still, with Olave i think its fair to take last years concussion out of "injury prone" discussion LOL that was the SINGLE most egregious hospital ball I can remember. Im sure there are worse, but if you take a section of fans and played word association... "hospital ball" would have a 95% rate of people saying Olave or Carr I guess for all the griping many of us have with the way nfl has gone the last decade or two, you can say a move like this is significantly less risky than before Quote
BigDingus Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) On 10/14/2025 at 7:33 AM, ClemsonBills said: A first for Olave? And I thought Beane was bad. Better than what Beane would spend the pick on. I'd trade a 1st + more picks for any legit WR. I have no desire to waste another season & hope Beane figures it out next draft, only for us to need another couple years to see if that pick ever materializes into something good. Look no further than who they've evaluated taken vs who they've passed on. We literally gave the Chiefs a weapon that helps transform the look of their entire offense, while we took a project that can't separate & scares nobody. As I've said before, the best draft picks Beane & McDermott have ever used outside of Allen were the 1st, 4th, 5th & 6th to get Diggs. Nobody else has been as impactful Better to go that route again then sit around & do nothing. Even just having someone as good as Waddle could change the whole dynamic of this offense. Maybe then Coleman could even look as good as ol Gabe David used to playing opposite of Diggs. Edited 16 hours ago by BigDingus 2 Quote
5ths the charm Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago We will either over pay for a #3 on a team on their last year of a contract or start money to a 33+ year old geriatric past his prime. Either way draft picks gone or future $ towards someone's retirement plan to watch more than play. Position is irrelevant as it will be the same for all. Quote
Fan in Chicago Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Four days after the MNF debacle and still no news. I would have thought we would have acquired a WR by now and get him prepped during the bye week 1 2 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 3 hours ago, TFBillsfan said: I’d give them a 2nd for Waddle! Oh, would you? You'd trade a 60th overall pick for a guy owed under $1M this season, who's averaged 1k+ yds & 6td per/season, for each of his first 4 years? 😆😆😆 Id commit to 42hours of work a week, to move into an oceanside mansion next door to a Playboy bunnie's. Would you trade our late 1st rd'er for 24yr old Calvin Johnson though? A draft pick could be anything! It could even be 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 11 hours ago, Maynard said: Anyone else hearing we’ve offered a 2nd and a 5th for Waddle? If it isn't being reported by a verified NFL media member or Beat writer, in which case it would be everywhere, it isn't worth the bandwidth reading the tweet uses. This time of the year, especially us being in the situation we're in with some positions, people are starving for a move to be made. And randos take advantage of that by posting bullsh-t to gain likes, follows, and traction on their accounts. There are no sources on Twitter. The best random "sources" on there are people who have put out nonsense and just got lucky that it coincidentally happened. Then everyone says "they're legit". Then you'll watch them put out a bunch more nonsense that never happens. Hoping they'll get lucky again. I know people are desperate to see us do something. But don't let that make you fall for and/or spread dubious (at best) info. Edited 7 hours ago by BillsFanForever19 1 1 Quote
Hotdog water Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago It really doesn’t matter who we trade for, we will get excited which will lead to disappointment when we refuse to throw the ball to our new toy. 2 Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 10 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said: Four days after the MNF debacle and still no news. I would have thought we would have acquired a WR by now and get him prepped during the bye week On a purely human level, do we think Beane is at all worried about the optics of trading for a WR? I have to imagine Terry knows about the WGR appearance and Beane’s crash out over WRs. He may not be the most plugged in owner, but that was a big offseason story. Does Beane care about admitting to egg on his face to the owner? At a turning point of the season? Trading for a WR is a tacit admission he was wrong this offseason and is a bit embarrassing personally. Does Beane worry that may affect his job status? It wouldn’t be the first team in the NFL GM’s do some short-sighted things to make themselves look good for their bosses. 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 25 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: On a purely human level, do we think Beane is at all worried about the optics of trading for a WR? I have to imagine Terry knows about the WGR appearance and Beane’s crash out over WRs. He may not be the most plugged in owner, but that was a big offseason story. Does Beane care about admitting to egg on his face to the owner? At a turning point of the season? Trading for a WR is a tacit admission he was wrong this offseason and is a bit embarrassing personally. Does Beane worry that may affect his job status? It wouldn’t be the first team in the NFL GM’s do some short-sighted things to make themselves look good for their bosses. Great question!! He must recognize the issue (even if he honestly thought it was fine in August). If he doesn’t, fire him now. He’s not competent if that’s the case. Assuming that he sees the glaring hole, how fragile is his ego? If he admits the issue is he self-identifying as a huge part of the problem? Will that put him on a hotter seat than he’s presumably on? What does Terry think of all this? What does Josh think? Beane is in a tough spot. He has to probably check his ego, admit he was wrong and take a swing hoping to be right. If he does nothing, and they fall short of a Super Bowl title many will point to WR, and his failings there, as the reason. The WGR interview was a disaster and it’s only gotten worse for him each week. Edited 5 hours ago by Kirby Jackson 4 2 Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) Very well spoken Kirby and I'll add that Beane has pretty much backed himself into a corner that only he can get out of. It's basically an everybody can see it except you situation right now. Your move Beane... Edited 5 hours ago by TheBeaneBandit 3 Quote
Fan in Chicago Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 31 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: It wouldn’t be the first team in the NFL GM’s do some short-sighted things to make themselves look good for their bosses. Will he look bad for not doing anything in the off-season or look worse if this season ends in a one-and-out in the playoffs ? I understand ego comes into the picture. But recovering from mistakes is a hallmark of good leadership Edited 5 hours ago by Fan in Chicago 1 Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 13 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: WTF is a hospitalizing groin injury, described by Ben Johnson as "personal" 😆😆😆😆 Is DJ Moore a teenager again? Bath house accident? Seriously thats a strange scenario lol Ben Johnson probably should've found a more specific way to explain it.... hell, lie if you gotta Testicular torsion perhaps 1 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Great question!! He must recognize the issue (even if he honestly thought it was fine in August). If he doesn’t, fire him now. He’s not competent if that’s the case. Assuming that he sees the glaring hole, how fragile is his ego? If he admits the issue is he self-identifying as a huge part of the problem? Will that put him on a hotter seat than he’s presumably on? What does Terry think of all this? What does Josh think? Beane is in a tough spot. He has to probably check his ego, admit he was wrong and take a swing hoping to be right. If he does nothing, and they fall short of a Super Bowl title many will point to WR, and his failings there, as the reason. The WGR interview was a disaster and it’s only gotten worse for him each week. You would hope he feels enough job security to make a move and take the flak. If he is true class he’ll go back on the same show after his trading and let them decide his punishment. As far as Terry goes, Beane can probably blame this on Palmer’s injury and Keon’s slow development and he has enough political capital accumulated to have few questions asked. 1 2 Quote
Low Positive Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 14 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Testicular torsion perhaps You can get vascular trauma and/or strangulated hernias down there that can be very serious. Maybe some of our doctors can expound on this, but that is what i found. Quote
Low Positive Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: You would hope he feels enough job security to make a move and take the flak. If he is true class he’ll go back on the same show after his trading and let them decide his punishment. As far as Terry goes, Beane can probably blame this on Palmer’s injury and Keon’s slow development and he has enough political capital accumulated to have few questions asked. If Beane is letting what people say about him online, on podcasts, and on local radio shows affect his personnel decisions, then he doesn't have thick enough skin to do the job. The only thing hs has to say about it is "circumstances changed and we're trying to do what we need to do to compete for a championship." Full stop. 1 1 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Low Positive said: If Beane is letting what people say about him online, on podcasts, and on local radio shows affect his personnel decisions, then he doesn't have thick enough skin to do the job. The only thing hs has to say about it is "circumstances changed and we're trying to do what we need to do to compete for a championship." Full stop. I mean he’s already proven that he’s letting what people say about him online and on a.m. radio get to him - so it’s far from a stretch. 2 Quote
boyst Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Low Positive said: If Beane is letting what people say about him online, on podcasts, and on local radio shows affect his personnel decisions, then he doesn't have thick enough skin to do the job. The only thing hs has to say about it is "circumstances changed and we're trying to do what we need to do to compete for a championship." Full stop. It's like coach said, beane has already shown that he is influenced by what people say. Which in the grand scheme of things can make it difficult to do his job, Howie roseman down in Philadelphia has had the same problem before. It's hard to walk back that kind of sentiment with any type of speech. Once the cats have the bag for that we as fans will only see the flaw in everything he does as an overreaction to something from outside influence. 1 Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, Low Positive said: If Beane is letting what people say about him online, on podcasts, and on local radio shows affect his personnel decisions, then he doesn't have thick enough skin to do the job. The only thing hs has to say about it is "circumstances changed and we're trying to do what we need to do to compete for a championship." Full stop. He already had a meltdown on local radio. Combined the Bills media strategy stranglehold of basically denying access to anyone saying negative things about the org, the odds he cares about what people say about him is approaching 100% 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Great question!! He must recognize the issue (even if he honestly thought it was fine in August). If he doesn’t, fire him now. He’s not competent if that’s the case. Assuming that he sees the glaring hole, how fragile is his ego? If he admits the issue is he self-identifying as a huge part of the problem? Will that put him on a hotter seat than he’s presumably on? What does Terry think of all this? What does Josh think? Beane is in a tough spot. He has to probably check his ego, admit he was wrong and take a swing hoping to be right. If he does nothing, and they fall short of a Super Bowl title many will point to WR, and his failings there, as the reason. The WGR interview was a disaster and it’s only gotten worse for him each week. Schopp and the Bulldog putting the top 2 winningest GM in Bills history into a blender is objectively hysterical though. Edited 3 hours ago by RoscoeParrish 1 Quote
boyst Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: He already had a meltdown on local radio. Combined the Bills media strategy stranglehold of basically denying access to anyone saying negative things about the org, the odds he cares about what people say about him is approaching 100% Schopp and the Bulldog putting the top 2 winningest GM in Bills history into a blender is objectively hysterical though. Shop and bulldog are one of the most unlistenable things on radio. The only thing worse that I can remember in recent time was booger McFarland. And he was only terrible because all he wanted to do was argue with anyone who had an opinion different than his in such a manner that it made it unlistable and insulting to the inner ear. The Rance those two have bet on that are so minuscule to the greater success of the team have been terrible. Quote
Maynard Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 11 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If it isn't being reported by a verified NFL media member or Beat writer, in which case it would be everywhere, it isn't worth the bandwidth reading the tweet uses. This time of the year, especially us being in the situation we're in with some positions, people are starving for a move to be made. And randos take advantage of that by posting bullsh-t to gain likes, follows, and traction on their accounts. There are no sources on Twitter. The best random "sources" on there are people who have put out nonsense and just got lucky that it coincidentally happened. Then everyone says "they're legit". Then you'll watch them put out a bunch more nonsense that never happens. Hoping they'll get lucky again. I know people are desperate to see us do something. But don't let that make you fall for and/or spread dubious (at best) info. Yeah thanks, was seeing it all over TickTock yesterday. More than likely complete BS, as I haven’t seen that reported anywhere reputable. Quote
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