Go on record... Fire McDermott?

[quincy]

We are thankful that the Jets and Dolphins have horrendous owners and very average quarterbacks at present. Glenn is on the verge of a lame duck one and done season unless they give him a Dan Campbell type mulligan should he get to 3 or 4 wins. The ship is about to sink in Miami and we just keep shooting ourselves in the foot when we should be in clear water.

 

McDermott seems to have no real lieutenants with him, to me it just seems so noticeable.

 

Just over the weekend, amongst the games I watched on television or listened to on the radio, I see Sean Payton with Rizzi and Vance Joseph. Bowles with Wilkes. Reid with Spags and Nagy, Shanahan with Salah, even Morris with Ulbrich. Head coaches being surrounded by other head coaches, even if they were interim. That is just the tip of the iceberg, off the top of my head. Tabor qualifies but he’s the least noteworthy name stated in this list.

 

Can an external voice come and open some eyes please?! It is needed in my opinion.

 

People may not remember Leslie Frazier fondly but at least he was a very well respected coach with stature. Who do we really currently have, probably only Kromer? I feel that there is nobody that can look McDermott in the eye and because of that he just appears to be so secure and smug and not sweating at all it feels like.

 

None of the extended guys who were extended this offseason on D look worth the money. The last guy, almost the afterthought, is delivering and barely used in the 4th quarter? Come on.

 

Sometimes you got to sell your soul in effect to keep your job. Look at Tomlin – getting Rodgers and Metcalf and the Steelers look like a different team.

 

Having typed all this, I wouldn’t want to fire McDermott right now. We have a winning record and to me firing him would be akin to waving the white flag for 2025.

 

I still am wishing this to be our year, KC slumped to begin with but they are turning it around. We have got to do the same! Let’s go Buffalo.

[boyst]

6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Certainly possible. Every era seems to have guys with loose lips. I personally do not hear nearly as much as I used to. I’m not sure that’s because the organization has all of a sudden stopped the leaks or that it’s now just different people with loose lips. 

McKenzie was the best to run his mouth 

 

It's also interesting that so many of the guys brought back and nothing comes out. Phillips is a process guy, white was a process guy who talked but doesn't seem to now (job security I reckon) and Poyer was certainly one of the most loose and nothing is much getting out now.

[DJB]

Get rid of this bum before it’s too late and we’ve completely wasted Josh’ years 

 

We need a real coach 

[blitzboy54]

Been over this fraud since 13 seconds. He lost me when he made an all time series of coaching blunders then went out of his way to NOT take responsibility. If "accountability" is your brand you better live it too. 

 

He and Beane can take a hike. 

[Gregg]

Nothing that we don't already know but articles in the media are mentioning it.

 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/is-bills-head-coach-sean-mcdermott-on-the-hot-seat-following-recent-struggles/ar-AA1OsE5U?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=68eea24cfeeb4b35b11cbe008cdc1c42&ei=13

[ScotSHO]

16 minutes ago, boyst said:

McKenzie was the best to run his mouth 

 

It's also interesting that so many of the guys brought back and nothing comes out. Phillips is a process guy, white was a process guy who talked but doesn't seem to now (job security I reckon) and Poyer was certainly one of the most loose and nothing is much getting out now.

It's almost as if $$$ does buy loyalty.  These guys don't care about winning, they have stared down the retirement barrel and like the McD bridge plan.

[Bill from NYC]

I voted yes but I would wait until the end of the season.

 

I still think that he is a decent field general but he is a lousy team builder who holds more power than he should in terms of the draft and personnel moves.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

 It’s not though. You have 10-15 years of Josh Allen. This is the best chance you’ve had in 30 years. it may be the best chance that you have for the next 30 years. You have a Ravens team that looks out of it, a Bengals team that is out of it. This is as good of a chance as you’re going to get and they’re squandering it!!
 

You’re into year 8 of Allen and have yet to play for one. You entered the season with CLEAR and OBVIOUS shortcomings. The sheep were fine with “everybody eats” and Tre White starting at CB. Predictably, it’s been a disaster and you’re about to tick off another year of Josh. I’m not fine with that. There is an absolute urgency to make changes to avoid another year(s) of coming up short.

 

FWIW, I’ve been screaming this for the last 3 or 4 years (and I’m unfortunately right to this point). It’s one thing to lose. It’s a whole different issue to lose because of problems that should have been addressed. Lol, it’s not negativity it is reality. 

Sucks for you more than it does for me.  Cope how you need to cope. It’s all good

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, Green Lightning said:

If it were to happen, I think both would need to go out together. But let's be serious. Given the tire fire that is the Sabres and Terry won't move on Kevyn in 6 years, McBeane is going nowhere.

Unless 17 has enough of one or both of them. 

[Mikie2times]

57 minutes ago, boyst said:

that hit piece was accurate by players who left the team. Hughes hated McD and knew he was full of crap. a few other scorned lovers in there and the WR coach who moved on down to Miami (I think it was). people who were good at their jobs moved on or gracefully backed out from McD (Frazier) before they could be further scapegoated.

 

Ty Dunne's piece was not wrong and some players buy in to his clappy mccrappy but we don't need buy in boys or boy scouts. it can go both ways, as you mentioned, McDaniel has lost his team for example. McDermott lost his team a few times but has Josh.

 

The whole reason Ken Dorsey gut fired was a players only meeting that McD did not want to acknowledge. they met and decided enough was enough. it was not Diggs who led it either, for the record. i think he was even mentioned as not going or staying long. it was a few key players and even Ty Johnson. the leaders of the offense went to McD to say Dorsey had to go after the Bengals game before the bye. McD didn't listen and even rode the bye week without doing anything. the players gave up on him and then with no spirit dropped to the Broncos. McD finally listened to his team and canned Dorsey.

 

McD did not want to change coordinators again, he did not want to show he made a mistake after losing Daboll who some players had wanted to assume the role. Daboll had a serious influence on this team and not just the offense. McD's pride to show he made the right call with Dorsey hurt this team.

 

and i was big fan of Dorsey getting the job.

They play for McD is to me is the grossest exaggeration and disconnect our fan base has. They play for each other. McD is not the loveable coach that players will hoist up and carry off the field if we get a trophy, nor is he despised. He's the HC of a team of professionals with largely self correcting character, a trait that this team pursues above talent in many circumstances. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Mikie2times

[Lagoon Blues]

pretty telling numbers in this poll.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

i don't think miserable is fair for him. remember, he has worked in a professional sports office before without going too far to out him. he has a high bar for his expectations and it is fair imo.

I have a high bar too.  Winning the Super Bowl is my expectation.  
 

The last 2 weeks have been tough on us, bit its week 7 and Injuries have played a big role in that.  I don’t think the team we saw last night will be the same team we see months from now.  Will we win the Super Bowl?  🤷🏻‍♂️ The odds are against every team to win the Super Bowl.  I believe we have the ability to adapt and be resilient.  Chapter 2 of this season has been horrid, but history suggests that we will improve.  Enough to win a SB?  🤷🏻‍♂️ but I refuse to not enjoy this journey because no one has the answer.  

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

17 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

they are 4-2 and a mash unit.  Get a grip.

 

no different than last year after the losses to baltimore and houston.

That’s the whole point. We shouldn’t be seeing the same exact problems from LAST YEAR and the year before that and so on….

[NewEra]

58 minutes ago, BVBILLS said:

Ha! I'd be happy if they even got to a Superbowl. Or even past the Chefs for that matter. 

If the defense gets rolled en route to a Super Bowl loss, 99% of the mcd haters will still call for his head

 

for the record.  I’m not a mcd lover.  I like him and think he’s a good head coach, but I’m over his defensive scheme.  I’m sure it’s partly the fault of the players, but opponents are too often finding soft spots in the zone standing there wide open.  Hopefully we throw Hariston in there when he’s healthy which could allow us to play more man.  Tre is hand cuffing our defensive play calls

1 hour ago, Heavy Kevi said:

 

What does starting a poll have to do with being right?

 

I get it, you want some gotcha moment here but it just isn't

 

Be honest... Outside of 4 minutes at the end of the ravens game, how good have they looked? I would say they look terrible and just eeked out wins against bad teams. You honestly think at the eye test this team looks like a super bowl contender this year?

That’s it

[Preds]

54 minutes ago, blitzboy54 said:

Been over this fraud since 13 seconds. He lost me when he made an all time series of coaching blunders then went out of his way to NOT take responsibility. If "accountability" is your brand you better live it too. 

 

He and Beane can take a hike. 

This 100%.  I wanted MCDummy fired before 13 seconds, that moment was just the exclamation point that he had to go IMO.

[Nihilarian]

FIRE

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Nihilarian

[Kirby Jackson]

40 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Sucks for you more than it does for me.  Cope how you need to cope. It’s all good

I spend an ungodly amount of time and money on this team. I will continue to whether they are good or bad. I always have. It’s incredibly frustrating to watch this team regress in a year that was as good of a chance as they’ve had. If they don’t win with Josh, we are looking at a reset (at least at some level). This team has been championship caliber for 5 or 6 years and haven’t been to a Super Bowl. That’s the standard now. We aren’t trying to end the drought. They’ve failed so far and accountability is needed. These windows don’t stay open for long and the Bills have already wasted at least a few years. Ross Tucker is literally on WGR now talking about how concerning this is for the Bills. He just said that “they’re not good enough to do what they want to do.”

 

I’m not sure what your interpreting as “coping?” That would assume acceptance of what’s happening. I want accountability for the clear and obvious failings. As a stakeholder, I’m voicing my displeasure even if it’s just yelling at clouds. Play to your standard and the results will be what they’ll be. They’ve played 1 good 1/2 this year (1st half vs. Jets). I expect more. They’re capable of more. 

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I spend an ungodly amount of time and money on this team. I will continue to whether they are good or bad. I always have. It’s incredibly frustrating to watch this team regress in a year that was as good of a chance as they’ve had. If they don’t win with Josh, we are looking at a reset (at least at some level). This team has been championship caliber for 5 or 6 years and haven’t been to a Super Bowl. That’s the standard now. We aren’t trying to end the drought. They’ve failed so far and accountability is needed. These windows don’t stay open for long and the Bills have already wasted at least a few years. Ross Tucker is literally on WGR now talking about how concerning this is for the Bills. He just said that “they’re not good enough to do what they want to do.”

 

I’m not sure what your interpreting as “coping?” That would assume acceptance of what’s happening. I want accountability for the clear and obvious failings. As a stakeholder, I’m voicing my displeasure even if it’s just yelling at clouds. Play to your standard and the results will be what they’ll be. They’ve played 1 good 1/2 this year (1st half vs. Jets). I expect more. They’re capable of more. 

I agree.  It’s week 7.  I don’t expect this to be the norm.  I think we will have much better days once we get our heads out of our asses and cut down on the boneheaded pre snap penalties.  There’s no excuse and needs to improve.
 

What action/s need to be done in order to hold the team accountable?  If winning the Super Bowl is the goal, does firing McD now and promoting Brady get us closer to the Super Bowl?  I don’t think so, but the one thing that could possibly improve if he is, is the defense.  That is, if Babich has a different overall philosophy and switches things up away from McDs scheme  But what we’ve seen from him so far, that’s a long shot. 

[Nihilarian]

What sucks is that the Chiefs have two former NFL head coaches as their OC & DC, and the winningest NFL HC over the last five years. Not to mention a superstar at several positions on that team, including a generational talent at QB in Patrick Mahomes, a TE in Travis Kelce, and a DT in Chris Jones. 

 

This team has been the roadblock that has kept Buffalo from the Super Bowl for the last five seasons. If Buffalo were in the NFC, they probably would have met the Chiefs in the big dance. 

 

A few things to be optimistic about are that the Chiefs are currently 3-3 with losses to the Chargers, Eagles, and Jaguars. The Chiefs still need to play Buffalo at Buffalo, the Commanders, and Denver 2x, the Colts, Texans, and Chargers. So Buffalo still has a chance at that #1 seed. 

 

With all the injuries to the Buffalo Bills that two rookie CBs are both on IR, and so many others are injured...we could be the 1-5 Baltimore Ravens. Now there is a fan base with torches and pitchforks out ready to boot a SB-winning HC with a 2-time MVP at QB. That team has four #1 picks in their starting secondary, and yet they are fielding the very worst defense in the league. 

 

Just relax and take a two-week break.

Edited 2 hours ago by Nihilarian

[Kirby Jackson]

45 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I agree.  It’s week 7.  I don’t expect this to be the norm.  I think we will have much better days once we get our heads out of our asses and cut down on the boneheaded pre snap penalties.  There’s no excuse and needs to improve.
 

What action/s need to be done in order to hold the team accountable?  If winning the Super Bowl is the goal, does firing McD now and promoting Brady get us closer to the Super Bowl?  I don’t think so, but the one thing that could possibly improve if he is, is the defense.  That is, if Babich has a different overall philosophy and switches things up away from McDs scheme  But what we’ve seen from him so far, that’s a long shot. 

- I’d pull play calling from Babich today or fire him altogether.

- I would fire Adam Henry as well.

- I’d sratch Keon next game. I would dress Gabe in his place (if he’s healthy).

- I’d release Jordan Phillips from the PS. I don’t care that he’s a vet that knows the system and loves it here. I’d make an example of him for jumping offside.

- I’d be tempted to cut Tre too but that may be a bridge too far. I probably wouldn’t do this but would think about it.
- I’d open Hairston’s practice window and start him as soon as possible. Take your lumps and you might not be any worse. 
- I would trade for AT LEAST 1 WR this week to play vs. Carolina. Olave would be my first choice.

 

None of these moves, in a vacuum makes you a contender but they all move you closer to it. It also sends a message to the team that how they’ve performed, regardless of the results of the games, hasn’t been good enough. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Kirby Jackson