DT T.J. Sanders and S Damar Hamlin to Injured Reseve

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Sanders getting hurt saves Ogunjobi from getting cut. 

 

When did Hamlin get hurt? What is the injury? 

 

And how will we know he's not actually on the field?

[The Cincinnati Kid]

Drag em off! Drag em o…oh, ah, haha sorry. These are our guys. My bad.

[Your Brown Eye]

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[The Cincinnati Kid]

Just now, Your Brown Eye said:

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[MikePJ76]

2 hours ago, ***** said:

I’m amusing the bills are bending the rules a bit and using IR for the extra roster spots, otherwise they would have IRed Sanders earlier and brought back Hairston earlier.  
 

fwiw, and this isn’t reliable, but I’m hearing that Strong likely needs vertebrae fused and could be a career ending injury.   

Vertebrae fused?  Where are you hearing this?  

[Dan Darragh]

1 hour ago, jlatas said:

I hope that makes sense

Not your fault if it doesn't

[MasterStrategist]

10 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Vertebrae fused?  Where are you hearing this?  

Agree - that seems far fetched

[Maine-iac]

Was hoping to see Sanders grow.  He looked like a decent 3 tech prospect and was hoping to see that.  Hamlin seems like the most likely candidate for next man up and as often as people get hurt around here probably would have seen some playing time at some point.  I'm hoping Zy Alexander makes his way back on the roster and gets a real look.  Wouldn't mind us bringing Makari Paige for a look.  Nice mix of size and speed.  Was in Giants camp for a while.  For the time being I hope Hancock gets some looks at safety.

[BlueRed]

3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Players on IR now are as follows:

 

CB Maxwell Hairston (IR to Return)

DT T.J. Sanders

CB Dorian Strong

K Tyler Bass

S Damar Hamlin 

OT Tylan Grable (IR to Return)

P Cameron Johnston

DT Dewayne Carter

 

Sanders going down really stinks. Between Hairston (who we hopefully get back soon), Sanders, and Strong our Defensive focused Draft class has been decimated by injuries. Thankfully we should have Ed Oliver back and Ogunjobi after this week to replace him. But ideally, we had all 3 cycling the 3T spot.

 

Sanders needed surgery to repair his knee. McDermott wouldn't completely rule out Sanders possibly returning at some point late in the season. But I'm not holding my breath. Though he seemed to indicate it's unlikely for Hamlin.

 

We currently have 2 open roster spots, on top of players like Sam Franklin Jr. and Jimmy Ciarlo who were signed to the roster from the Practice Squad. So all that effort people put into racking their brains on how we'd fit Maxwell Hairston, Michael Hoecht, and Larry Ogunjobi was for naught, as moving all 3 on to the Roster can easily be done without having to move on from anyone the initial 53. Though given the reasoning for that, it's not something you like to see.

You have IR to return next to Hairston and Grable - is that your opinion or do you know something? I thought they didn’t open anyone’s window yet. 

I’m mainly thinking about Grable - I feel like he might be done for the year since he’s not back yet from a preseason concussion - Hopefully he’s okay but if he was good to go they’d surely activate him, he was their main swing tackle last year. 

[BillsFanForever19]

3 hours ago, BlueRed said:

You have IR to return next to Hairston and Grable - is that your opinion or do you know something? I thought they didn’t open anyone’s window yet. 

I’m mainly thinking about Grable - I feel like he might be done for the year since he’s not back yet from a preseason concussion - Hopefully he’s okay but if he was good to go they’d surely activate him, he was their main swing tackle last year. 

 

Coming out of Training Camp, you have a certain number you're allowed to designate to return from IR before the season starts. If you don't designate them that, they're out for the year. Both Hairston and Grable were given that designation. So they're eligible to return. Carter, on the other hand is not.

 

In season, I believe you don't have to label as you do prior to the season. But you're only allowed 8 to return. I believe Hairston and Grable count amongst that 8, even though they were officially labeled prior to the season starting.

 

And no, they have the Return from IR designation - but neither returned with their 21 day practice window yet.

Edited 14 minutes ago by BillsFanForever19

[Don Otreply]

4 hours ago, ***** said:

I’m amusing the bills are bending the rules a bit and using IR for the extra roster spots, otherwise they would have IRed Sanders earlier and brought back Hairston earlier.  
 

fwiw, and this isn’t reliable, but I’m hearing that Strong likely needs vertebrae fused and could be a career ending injury.   

Gotta agree with you on this, they are manipulating our roster so that we can bring on our PED brothers & Max H, and keep the newly minted IR guys available as needed later on, clever really, 

 

hope it works out for the best, GO BILLS!!!

Edited 2 hours ago by Don Otreply

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:

Gotta agree with you on this, they are manipulating our roster so that we can bring on our PED brothers & Max H, and keep the newly minted IR guys available as needed later on, clever really, 

 

hope it works out for the best, GO BILLS!!!

 

Again, I disagree with this completely. You think they're taking T.J. Sanders, our high 2nd Round selection, off the field and having his Rookie season and development upended by doing elective surgery - so they can replace him with Larry friggin' Ogunjobi? 

 

That would be big dumb. And they don't even need to do that. Damar Hamlin tore his pec. There's guys like Brandon Codrington and Ja'Marcus Ingram who are inactive or barely used. Guys like Sam Franklin Jr. and Jimmy Ciarlo who are players who could easily be moved back to the Practice Squad.

 

There is no "clever" roster manipulation. Just guys legitimately getting injured.

Edited 1 hour ago by BillsFanForever19

[Kevbeau]

2 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said:

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[Ethan in Cleveland]

Time for an injury settlement with Hamlin and part ways.  

[BillsFanForever19]

1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Time for an injury settlement with Hamlin and part ways.  

 

His contract for this season is fully guaranteed. There's no settlement to be done.

[Don Otreply]

59 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Again, I disagree with this completely. You think they're taking T.J. Sanders, our high 2nd Round selection, off the field and having his Rookie season and development upended by doing elective surgery - so they can replace him with Larry friggin' Ogunjobi? 

 

That would be big dumb. And they don't even need to do that. Damar Hamlin tore his pec. There's guys like Brandon Codrington and Ja'Marcus Ingram who are inactive or barely used. Guys like Sam Franklin Jr. and Jimmy Ciarlo who are players who could easily be moved back to the Practice Squad.

 

There is no "clever" roster manipulation. Just guys legitimately getting injured.

You aren’t getting it, it’s not that, it’s how it’s working out with injuries, re-read my points with out your predisposition thst I think they are removing a player for no reason for lack of a better way to say it, 

[Joe Marino]

Adios Damar. Good luck in what’s next.

[Gunsgoodtime]

We are "Backloaded" I was told

[Mike in Horseheads]

3 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

Vertebrae fused?  Where are you hearing this?  

Jack Eichels Dr

[BillsFanForever19]

12 minutes ago, Joe Marino said:

Adios Damar. Good luck in what’s next.

 

I'm sure that's what a lot of people want. But it wouldn't remotely shock me to see them bring him back into camp next year as depth, just like this year. 

 

8 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

We are "Backloaded" I was told

 

Theoretically, Ogunjobi comes in for Sanders after this week. Hairston will eventually replace the spot lost by Strong. Poyer could replace Hamlin's spot.

 

So there is depth where we hopefully won't lose much. But we'd preferably be in a spot where we haven't already had 2 CB's, 2 DT's, and a Safety from what should have been our 53 on IR by Week 6. Not to mention LB's like Milano and Williams coming in and out of the lineup.