Game week thread - Bills at Falcons MNF

[NeverOutNick]

11 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

It’s the remaining SCHEDULES

 

Are margin for error now is 13-4.  
 

The Pats might go 12-5.  Find me 3 losses on that schedule.  
 

And we could very easily lose 6:

 

 

At Atlanta 

Vs KC

At Houston 

Vs Tampa 

Vs Philly 

 

And at Pittsburgh won’t be easy either. 
 

 

I said this in August and I’m standing by it now - bc it’s what was rearing its head v NE

 

If we don’t win, it’s bc we don’t have a legit WR1. 
 

Not CB2.  Not Safety.  
 

WR1

We play all the defenses that demand you have one. 

It will be because of coaching that we go 12-5 of 11-6 and lose the 1 seed instead of 14-3 and win it. Like I said before Josh shouldn’t have to be Superman every week for us to win a game. Sometimes the coaching staff has to actually do its job to bail us out and we just don’t have that guy as a HC or DC

[oldmanfan]

14 hours ago, Albwan said:

This injury list...same ***** every year.

Yes.  All teams get injuries.  It’s a physical game.

12 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

It’s the remaining SCHEDULES

 

Are margin for error now is 13-4.  
 

The Pats might go 12-5.  Find me 3 losses on that schedule.  
 

And we could very easily lose 6:

 

 

At Atlanta 

Vs KC

At Houston 

Vs Tampa 

Vs Philly 

 

And at Pittsburgh won’t be easy either. 
 

 

I said this in August and I’m standing by it now - bc it’s what was rearing its head v NE

 

If we don’t win, it’s bc we don’t have a legit WR1. 
 

Not CB2.  Not Safety.  
 

WR1

We play all the defenses that demand you have one. 

The Patriots will lose a few you don’t think they will because that is what happens in the NFL.  The Bills will win games you don’t think they will because that is what happens in the NFL.  The doom and gloom stuff around here because of one game is just silly at this point.

[UKBillFan]

38 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Yes.  All teams get injuries.  It’s a physical game.

The Patriots will lose a few you don’t think they will because that is what happens in the NFL.  The Bills will win games you don’t think they will because that is what happens in the NFL.  The doom and gloom stuff around here because of one game is just silly at this point.

 

It's not just one game, though. As I said in another thread - it was a similar story against the Jets, the Dolphins and the Saints. Even the Ravens, though they were nearly at full strength in week one. The difference is Josh played exceptionally well in those weeks, compared to simply well against the Pats. And that is enough to switch a victory to a defeat. It should not be.

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

 

It's not just one game, though. As I said in another thread - it was a similar story against the Jets, the Dolphins and the Saints. Even the Ravens, though they were nearly at full strength in week one. The difference is Josh played exceptionally well in those weeks, compared to simply well against the Pats. And that is enough to switch a victory to a defeat. It should not be.

I think both coordinators didn’t do well last week.  But as for other games as I said above the differences between teams in the NFL is not as wide as many assume.  This week’s game will also likely be closer than many think.  Some will look at the Falcons loss to Carolina and assume we should dominate.  But the Falcons have Bijon and a pretty good D.  

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

I think both coordinators didn’t do well last week.  But as for other games as I said above the differences between teams in the NFL is not as wide as many assume.  This week’s game will also likely be closer than many think.  Some will look at the Falcons loss to Carolina and assume we should dominate.  But the Falcons have Bijon and a pretty good D.  

 

The Falcons are ridiculous - no one knows what they're going to do. If they play like they did against the Panthers it could be a 40 burger. However, if they play as they did against the Commanders, we could be looking at 4-2.

 

Prediction wise, before week one, I thought this coule be the Bills second loss of the season (after the Ravens).

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

 

The Falcons are ridiculous - no one knows what they're going to do. If they play like they did against the Panthers it could be a 40 burger. However, if they play as they did against the Commanders, we could be looking at 4-2.

 

Prediction wise, before week one, I thought this coule be the Bills second loss of the season (after the Ravens).

I think we tend to come back and play better after a loss like last week.  I hope we see some personnel changes.  I want to see Ingram instead of Tre to begin with.  

[UKBillFan]

4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I think we tend to come back and play better after a loss like last week.  I hope we see some personnel changes.  I want to see Ingram instead of Tre to begin with.  

 

Not always. Last year, we followed the Ravens blow out with the loss at Texans (similar circumstances to last week). In 2023, we lost three games in four weeks, or four in six. In 2022, we had Jets and Vikings losses back to back. 2021 - Pats and Bucs. 2020 - Titans and Chiefs. 2019 - Pats and Jets (albeit we had nothing to play for in week 17). Under McDermott, we haven't gone through a season without back-to-back losses.

[RunTheBall]

Atlanta’s run D is suspect, so with Brady’s recent game plans I would expect him to break out the 4 and 5 wide passing scheme with Ty Johnson as the featured back.

 

I’m still pissed about his NE game plan. The best coaches plan to attack a teams weaknesses and Brady needs to do a lot more of that instead of his “throw everything at the wall and see what sticks” scheme. 

 

Hey, how about instead of 15 different formations, you actually throw from under center or run out of shotgun once in a while. It’s ridiculous how predictable he’s become. 

 

Yeah, it was just one game but it was a big one that could have set us up for the rest of the year. That’s a helluva time to sht the bed. 

 

I’d like to see a team specific gameplan that emphasizes the run, then throws out of heavy run formations. Once the run is established the play action game should be 30-40% of the pass plays.

 

As usually, if we don’t turn the ball over we will win. Diggs isn’t on the other sideline so hopefully Josh will have his head on straight.

 

[oldmanfan]

6 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Not always. Last year, we followed the Ravens blow out with the loss at Texans (similar circumstances to last week). In 2023, we lost three games in four weeks, or four in six. In 2022, we had Jets and Vikings losses back to back. 2021 - Pats and Bucs. 2020 - Titans and Chiefs. 2019 - Pats and Jets (albeit we had nothing to play for in week 17). Under McDermott, we haven't gone through a season without back-to-back losses.

You seem to want to put a negative spin on things because of the one loss last week.  I don’t.  Enjoy feeling the way you feel.

1 minute ago, RunTheBall said:

Atlanta’s run D is suspect, so with Brady’s recent game plans I would expect him to break out the 4 and 5 wide passing scheme with Ty Johnson as the featured back.

 

I’m still pissed about his NE game plan. The best coaches plan to attack a teams weaknesses and Brady needs to do a lot more of that instead of his “throw everything at the wall and see what sticks” scheme. 

 

Hey, how about instead of 15 different formations, you actually throw from under center or run out of shotgun once in a while. It’s ridiculous how predictable he’s become. 

 

Yeah, it was just one game but it was a big one that could have set us up for the rest of the year. That’s a helluva time to sht the bed. 

 

I’d like to see a team specific gameplan that emphasizes the run, then throws out of heavy run formations. Once the run is established the play action game should be 30-40% of the pass plays.

 

As usually, if we don’t turn the ball over we will win. Diggs isn’t on the other sideline so hopefully Josh will have his head on straight.

 

Interesting points.  I want to see us use the RBs more in the passing game.  Josh talks about Ty Johnson being the best 3rd down back in the league but they’re not using him much.

[Pete]

14 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

Atlanta’s run D is suspect, so with Brady’s recent game plans I would expect him to break out the 4 and 5 wide passing scheme with Ty Johnson as the featured back.

 

I’m still pissed about his NE game plan. The best coaches plan to attack a teams weaknesses and Brady needs to do a lot more of that instead of his “throw everything at the wall and see what sticks” scheme. 

 

Hey, how about instead of 15 different formations, you actually throw from under center or run out of shotgun once in a while. It’s ridiculous how predictable he’s become. 

 

Yeah, it was just one game but it was a big one that could have set us up for the rest of the year. That’s a helluva time to sht the bed. 

 

I’d like to see a team specific gameplan that emphasizes the run, then throws out of heavy run formations. Once the run is established the play action game should be 30-40% of the pass plays.

 

As usually, if we don’t turn the ball over we will win. Diggs isn’t on the other sideline so hopefully Josh will have his head on straight.

 

I’m furious about Brady against the Pats, and all of his awful calls.  It’s like he makes simple game plans, and does not know how to know how to make in game changes to counter what the opposing D is.  I’m not an Offensive Coordinator- yet I know that we should have attacked the Pats LBs and Safeties.  Not call bubble screen with Shakir and 1 blocker against 4 Pat defenders.

 

Im so ***** sick of having 2nd and 2 and ho hum another running play.  That’s a ***** perfect time for play action!  
 

Earlier in one of the Bills prime time games, the Bills were going for 2, I believe.  Collinsworth said “right now you are going to see the Bills best play.  They’ve practiced this play more than any other, here it comes”. And it was another pathetic Brady play.

 

Brady is a major problem imo.  CB is too.  But Brady is over his head imo

[UKBillFan]

37 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

You seem to want to put a negative spin on things because of the one loss last week.  I don’t.  Enjoy feeling the way you feel.

Interesting points.  I want to see us use the RBs more in the passing game.  Josh talks about Ty Johnson being the best 3rd down back in the league but they’re not using him much.

 

All I'm responding to is "I think we tend to come back and play better after a loss like last week". The evidence does not back this up.

 

In fairness, after the back-to-back losses, the Bills have tended to go on strong, successful runs.

[Dillenger4]

16 hours ago, Success said:

Hot takes have become like a religion w/ the sports punditry.  I have been slack-jawed all week - a last second loss to a division opponent in a sloppy game, and all of a sudden the Bills are frauds, the Patriots are "back" (whatever that means), and Drake Maye is now a top-tier QB.

 

If we lose to Atlanta, the next 2 weeks will be next to intolerable. I probably wouldn't watch anything. Not what I'm expecting, though - I think Sunday was more of a wake-up call for this team to start taking this season seriously.  Atlanta is a very good, solid team, but if this Bills team is who I think they are, this one isn't that close.

 

 

pass the dutchee mon....

[Cash]

17 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

This is really OT, but shouldn't it be "... Milano and DT TJ Sanders were..."?

 

Or is this correct in English?

You are right. This was a subject/verb error by Joe B. Since the subject (2 players) was plural, the verb should’ve also been plural. 

 

9 hours ago, ShakAttack said:

If we aren't good enough to beat the Falcons, none of this matters, and I hate to say it, but it might be in our best interest to be in a position where we can draft and/or sign an actual difference maker on DEFENSE because we have been in the same damn boat since 2019-2020 and we know how that story ends every single time.

 

For a while it was Allen and Diggs

Now it's Allen and Cook (who I'd argue is better because Cook actually shows up in the playoffs)

 

But meanwhile, our defense has become worse. Somehow.

 

This defense has never had a DL that is capable of causing chaos in the post-season.

 

You think KC wins any of those Super Bowls without Chris Jones? MAYBE the first one, but DEFINITELY not the last two...

This is a WILD take. Intentionally tanking with the reigning MVP after a 4-0 start? Bravo!

[Sierra Foothills]

From the Associated Press:

 

"The Bills are 22-6 following a regular-season loss dating to the start of the 2019 season. And they’re 10-2 when playing a road game following a loss."

 

[Sierra Foothills]

On the other hand, the Falcons are coming off the bye following their best performance of the season in the 34-27 win over Washington.

 

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, RunTheBall said:

 

 

I’m still pissed about his NE game plan. The best coaches plan to attack a teams weaknesses and Brady needs to do a lot more of that instead of his “throw everything at the wall and see what sticks” scheme. 

 

Yeah, it was just one game but it was a big one that could have set us up for the rest of the year. That’s a helluva time to sht the bed. 

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly.  This isn’t doom and gloom. 
 

When we were 3-2 last year I didn’t feel remotely like I do right now about this team.  
 

Because the division sucked.  And those were 2 losses no one was surprised happened.  
 

 

They had a chance to bury a team and put the division away and played THAT game at HOME in prime time.  
 

The peak Chiefs NEVER lost games like that.
 

Doom and gloom would be saying “seasons over.”  Thats doom and gloom.  Which of course it isn’t.  
 

I think this team bc of Allen can get hot and win 3 games on the road in January absolutely because they’d be at Indy, New England, then - ??? At Jacksonville?   
 

Right now, anything can happen in the AFC.  

 

That’s not doom and gloom that’s called an analysis.  

[bills742]

 

 

 

Edited 25 minutes ago by bills742

[jahnyc]

I guess there is room now to bring back the suspended players without making cuts from the roster.

[Big Blitz]

Yea sorry you just can’t compete with the teams improving around you if your top 3 draft picks give you absolutely nothing.   

 

This defense won’t be improving this year.

 

It will take until 2026.
 

And injuries aren’t done happening.  It’s only week 6!
 

 

 

Going to need to score 35 a game.  Just like last season.  But we play some actual elite defenses in 2025.   

[Dan]

16 minutes ago, bills742 said:

 

 

 

How does a player get injured bad enough to go to IR during a practice?