Keon WTF?

[Kirby Jackson]

Every team has a guy(s) that a portion of the fan base WAY overrates. The Eagles fans overrate Hurts (who is good), some Miami fans with Tua (who isn’t good) and we have Keon truthers. Since the draft they’ve hoped/believed that he would be something that he isn’t. That’s not fair to him. He was never going to be “the guy.” He has too many holes for that. He’s a role player and the 4th option on a good offense. 

[Robert Paulson]

4 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Not to jump on the "Crap on Keon" train, but he needs to stop that 'catch - go backwards to get distance between him and defender - try to get more YaC' thing. 

This right here. it seems all our receivers have this habit. is it taught.

 

i'd rather see them catch it and dive forward. they are all 6 ft tall. get the 2 extra yards and move to the next play instead of losing 4 yards: 6 yard difference.

[BillsFan2313]

7 hours ago, Pete said:

Your weak fumble inside our 10 yard line gifted the Pats a victory.  You went back to playing patty cakes instead of using your God given size and leaping power.  This was the worst game of your career.   Worse than getting a football bounced off the side of your head.  WTF Keon?  

 

Didn't we hold them to a FG? I would say the int was more of a killer. That was a 10 point swing at least, as they scored a TD after the int and we were in Pats territory.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

5 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

This right here. it seems all our receivers have this habit. is it taught.

 

i'd rather see them catch it and dive forward. they are all 6 ft tall. get the 2 extra yards and move to the next play instead of losing 4 yards: 6 yard difference.

That's what Bease used to do, catch and the old "don't hit me" dive lol

[Pete]

18 minutes ago, Walking Tall said:

When you catch a ball and move it to protect it and carry it, there is a brief second where the ball is more exposed. Plain and simple.

You immediately grab the nose of the ball and grip tight, as soon as you secure the catch.  Plain and simple.  That makes it much more difficult to punch it out.  Keon clearly has the ball in his right arm, not protecting the ball

[TheyCallMeAndy]

2 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said:

 

Didn't we hold them to a FG? I would say the int was more of a killer. That was a 10 point swing at least, as they scored a TD after the int and we were in Pats territory.

Correct, the INT seemed to be the momentum killer. That was a great defensive play, we definitely can't really complain about Allen INTs. 

[jlgarsh]

7 hours ago, Pete said:

Your weak fumble inside our 10 yard line gifted the Pats a victory.  You went back to playing patty cakes instead of using your God given size and leaping power.  This was the worst game of your career.   Worse than getting a football bounced off the side of your head.  WTF Keon?  

Coaching & front office negligence is the issue, still.

 

Clock mismanagement (letting 40 seconds run off the clock before first timeout used, going for a TD instead of going for a first down to bleed more clock before trying the tying FG or for a game winning TD). 

Secondary can't cover, and they still keep playing the same guys every week. We spend draft assets on defense and it never seems to get better.

Most WRs can't separate either. 

[4th&long]

He's a poor man's Kelvin Benjamin. He won't get a second contract in Buffalo. 

[JP51]

7 hours ago, Sojourner said:

Keon had his mistake, sure but he made other plays. Biggest issue was tackling again. Especially behind the LOS or immediately after the catch. 

Couple that with getting shredded in the zones on the boundary and yeah, not good. 

Keon is literally the least of our worries... unfortunately he doesn't seem to be lining up in the solution category either... 

[Sojourner]

2 minutes ago, JP51 said:

Keon is literally the least of our worries... unfortunately he doesn't seem to be lining up in the solution category either... 

 

Agree entirely. Well said. 

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, JP51 said:

Keon is literally the least of our worries... unfortunately he doesn't seem to be lining up in the solution category either... 

It's honestly the fault of the org that they basically set him up to the be the WR savior.  

 

He will get unnecessary flak if he only turns out to be a good role player WR.

[JP51]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

It's honestly the fault of the org that they basically set him up to the be the WR savior.  

 

He will get unnecessary flak if he only turns out to be a good role player WR.

I think he will as well... I think if there was a real 1 and he was asked to be a 2 and a 50/50 ball guy he would end up being ok... 

[FireChans]

Just now, JP51 said:

I think he will as well... I think if there was a real 1 and he was asked to be a 2 and a 50/50 ball guy he would end up being ok... 

As I said at the time, I pegged his ceiling as a Mike Williams type. High variance TD and 800-1000 yards average per year.

 

He's just not a 1.  And he's not a guy you really want to pay as a 2.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

5 hours ago, Pete said:

Keon directly gave the Pats 3 points with his sloppy job of holding on the ball.  How many points did we lose by?   Pats would not have gone to Bills red zone in the first half, except Keons gift to them.

 

And Allen gave them 7 so guess that makes him even worse.  And Keon also gave them 7 with a TD to, but you left that part out.  so gues that makes him +3 for the game.

 

Yes was bad fumble, but as many pointed out the entire game by everyone except Kincaid and their kicker were bad.

[Sojourner]

31 minutes ago, FireChans said:

It's honestly the fault of the org that they basically set him up to the be the WR savior.  

 

He will get unnecessary flak if he only turns out to be a good role player WR.

Blame Diggs. His antics led to his removal from the team. If he played with the desire he showed last night in the playoffs, we probably have a Super Bowl appearance. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

Just now, Sojourner said:

Blame Diggs. His antics led to his removal from the team. If he played with the desire he showed last night in the playoffs, we probably have a Super Bowl appearance. 

 

He played that way her too for about the first year and a half, maybe 2 years  then became a problem.

[JP51]

34 minutes ago, FireChans said:

As I said at the time, I pegged his ceiling as a Mike Williams type. High variance TD and 800-1000 yards average per year.

 

He's just not a 1.  And he's not a guy you really want to pay as a 2.

I dont think he is a 1 either, I was wondering if we had a true 1...  would that help him...  not worried about paying him at this point, just some consistency 

[DapperCam]

25 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

And Allen gave them 7 so guess that makes him even worse.  And Keon also gave them 7 with a TD to, but you left that part out.  so gues that makes him +3 for the game.

 

Yes was bad fumble, but as many pointed out the entire game by everyone except Kincaid and their kicker were bad.

I would say Allen cost the Bills 3 points, I don't think you can say he gave the Pats 7 points. The defense still had to do its part to let the Pats have a 90 yard TD drive after his pick.

[The Jokeman]

5 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Like Worthy is a # 1 WR.  Coleman made a couple really good plays yesterday that were overshadowed by the fumble 

Really? Keon has more yards receiving than Worthy in the same amount of games played (19). Oh and Coleman has the same amount of receiving TDs too. But I know Worthy's 21 more targets make him a true #1. 

[oldmanfan]

4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Really? Keon has more yards receiving than Worthy in the same amount of games played (19). Oh and Coleman has the same amount of receiving TDs too. But I know Worthy's 21 more targets make him a true #1. 

There you go