Good read on Joey Bosa

[BillsFan619]

“…Bosa's start has been strong with a league-high four forced fumbles, already tied for his second-most in a season. His league-leading 23.4% pressure percentage is the highest of Bosa's career and his 18 pressures are tied with Green Bay Packers pass rusher Micah Parsons for the NFL's most.”

"I won't mention the exact count of what the plan is, but there is a plan, and it kind of got away from us [vs. the Dolphins]," Bosa said. "Some of those drives were long and they'd look at me, and I'd be like, 'No, no.' I hate being pulled out in the red zone even if it's a really long drive cause I just, you want to be out there and no matter how tired you are.

 

"Ideally, we keep it below that, but at the end of the game, if it's crunch time and I need to be out there, I'm going to play as many snaps as I need to, but I think the goal is to try to get rest earlier in the game and steal some snaps on first and second down early," Bosa said. "So, by the time the third, fourth quarter rolls around, we have some in the tank that we could use. But yeah, the goal isn't to go out there and have an incredible one game. It's about consistency and longevity for the season to manage that."

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42034528/joey-bosa-new-chapter-injury-concerns-buffalo-bills

[Walking Tall]

Good signing. He’s had issues with contain but he wasn’t brought here for that. Hopefully he’ll improve a bit there.

[Ya Digg?]

1 minute ago, Walking Tall said:

Good signing. He’s had issues with contain but he wasn’t brought here for that. Hopefully he’ll improve a bit there.

On the flip side there's Groot who only tries to contain and NEVER generates any pressure

[BuffaloBill]

Glad he is a Bill - we’ll see how the rest of the season goes. We really need his best game during the playoffs.

[EssexBill]

Apart from Josh, I'd say Joey is the most important piece of the superbowl puzzle. We've had the offence to get there for the last few years but the defence has always let the team down, I truly believe we'd have made it in 2022 if Von Miller hadn't got injured and Joey is the best passs rusher we've had since then.

If he stays healthy he'll get to Mahomes in the playoffs and that is the key as we've not gotten a sniff of him previously which has cost us regardless of how many points the offense have put on the board. Groot and Ed Oliver have shown they can't do it on the very biggest stage so we need someone at a higher level to do it, I'm hopeful Joey is that guy

Edited October 3 by EssexBill

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

12 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

Glad he is a Bill - we’ll see how the rest of the season goes. We really need his best game during the playoffs.

I made light of the fact that he is perceived as often injured.  Bosa has contributed in every game he's played.  I am glad he is here.

[Lagoon Blues]

Just stay healthy....Just stay healthy.

[billsfan89]

21 minutes ago, EssexBill said:

Apart from Josh, I'd say Joey is the most important piece of the superbowl puzzle. We've had the offence to get there for the last few years but the defence has always let the team down, I truly believe we'd have made it in 2022 if Von Miller hadn't got injured and Joey is the best passs rusher we've had since then.

If he stays healthy he'll get to Mahomes in the playoffs and that is the key as we've not gotten a sniff of him previously which has cost us regardless of how many points the offense have put on the board. Groot and Ed Oliver have shown they can't do it on the very biggest stage so we need someone at a higher level to do it, I'm hopeful Joey is that guy

 

2022 that team was both massively hurt (even beyond the Von injury) and flawed (Offensive line issues and no WR2 or any help outside of Diggs at pass catcher). Hyde went down early and that hurt the defense. Pretty much the entire D-line was hurt going into that Bengals team. It was the Bills "year from hell" they just had two star talents on offense (Diggs and Josh) and enough depth on defense to patch it together and go 13-3. But that team was just not destined to go the distance that year even if Von was healthy.

[Warriorspikes51]

while hes had a seemingly annoying amount of near tackles of RB's that were missed.....

He has already forced 4 fumbles in 4 games to lead the NFL 

I'd like to see his snap count brought down to 45-50% instead of 75%+

I think that's the sweet spot for his efficiency and success rate to be elite all season if he can stay on the field 

Edited October 3 by Warriorspikes51

[EssexBill]

4 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

2022 that team was both massively hurt (even beyond the Von injury) and flawed (Offensive line issues and no WR2 or any help outside of Diggs at pass catcher). Hyde went down early and that hurt the defense. Pretty much the entire D-line was hurt going into that Bengals team. It was the Bills "year from hell" they just had two star talents on offense (Diggs and Josh) and enough depth on defense to patch it together and go 13-3. But that team was just not destined to go the distance that year even if Von was healthy.

 

I hear what you're saying and I agree 2022 was the year where the heavens plotted against the bills, but Von Miller before injury was that good I still think they'd have made it if he'd been healthy. Unfortunately the Gods didn't want it.

 

Didn't help that Josh had a massive fight with his gf the night before the bengals game which effectively ended the relationship either (so I was told)

Edited October 3 by EssexBill

[Mister Defense]

Great stuff, had not read those quotes yet.

 

The fact that he wants to be out there more, more than we had thought when signed, is such a promising sign for what he will do this year and in the future. 

 

As he seems to be enjoying it so much here, having a great time on a winning team, that I think he will want to be here long term, even if it may mean a little less money. And this will get much better once the defense is fixed, I think.  And I believe that fix is on the horizon.

 

Hope so, as he likely has several good years left as he is only 30.

 

 

[PoundingDog]

9 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I'd like to see his snap count brought down to 45-50% instead of 75%+

The better measure is absolute snap counts. 50+ is too much in my opinion. With our offense, I'd think the defense should be getting 60-70 snaps total. 30-40 snaps is what I think the target.

 

I also like the fact that he mentioned stealing some 1st & 2nd down snaps in 1st & 2nd quarter. I take it as someone steals those snaps from him. That's good plan for a tight games. Unfortunately there is no one else capable of holding the edge better than him and Groot right now. So I don't know that plan is ever going to work.

[JP51]

22 minutes ago, PoundingDog said:

The better measure is absolute snap counts. 50+ is too much in my opinion. With our offense, I'd think the defense should be getting 60-70 snaps total. 30-40 snaps is what I think the target.

 

I also like the fact that he mentioned stealing some 1st & 2nd down snaps in 1st & 2nd quarter. I take it as someone steals those snaps from him. That's good plan for a tight games. Unfortunately there is no one else capable of holding the edge better than him and Groot right now. So I don't know that plan is ever going to work.

Right, force a few 3 and outs and the percentage of plays he plays goes up... that would be nice  

[BigDingus]

2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

On the flip side there's Groot who only tries to contain and NEVER generates any pressure

 

But for 4 years / $80 million, totally worth it! 

[WeckMonster]

Once Hoecht returns, I’d keep Bosa as a situational 3rd down pass rusher. A “closer” role.

 

let Groot, AJ, Hoecht and even Walker handle edge on 1st and 2nd downs.

[BillsFan619]

3 minutes ago, WeckMonster said:

Once Hoecht returns, I’d keep Bosa as a situational 3rd down pass rusher. A “closer” role.

 

let Groot, AJ, Hoecht and even Walker handle edge on 1st and 2nd downs.

I don’t disagree with your premise, but I do think it needs to be somewhat more than that.
 

To be effective on third downs, he’ll most likely need to get the feel of the game. And what I mean by that is, the feel of how people are blocking him and how they’re playing against him so he knows what moves he can make to get to the passer. It’s one thing to see tape on someone, it’s another thing to see how someone will try to defend you in live game action.

 

I hope I’m making sense. Go bills!

[chris heff]

4 hours ago, Lagoon Blues said:

Just stay healthy....Just stay healthy.

Thanks, I’m trying, not drinking too much, eating right, getting some exercise… Oh wait you meant Bosa, well hopefully he’s doing the same thing.

4 hours ago, EssexBill said:

 

I hear what you're saying and I agree 2022 was the year where the heavens plotted against the bills, but Von Miller before injury was that good I still think they'd have made it if he'd been healthy. Unfortunately the Gods didn't want it.

 

Didn't help that Josh had a massive fight with his gf the night before the bengals game which effectively ended the relationship either (so I was told)

I wish I’d been there to comfort her.

[Rockinon]

5 hours ago, Lagoon Blues said:

Just stay healthy....Just stay healthy.

No, no, no. You have say it 3 times, turn around 180 degrees counter clockwise then touch your nose....or it doesn't work.

[BillsShredder83]

5 hours ago, BillsFan619 said:

“…Bosa's start has been strong with a league-high four forced fumbles, already tied for his second-most in a season. His league-leading 23.4% pressure percentage is the highest of Bosa's career and his 18 pressures are tied with Green Bay Packers pass rusher Micah Parsons for the NFL's most.”

"I won't mention the exact count of what the plan is, but there is a plan, and it kind of got away from us [vs. the Dolphins]," Bosa said. "Some of those drives were long and they'd look at me, and I'd be like, 'No, no.' I hate being pulled out in the red zone even if it's a really long drive cause I just, you want to be out there and no matter how tired you are.

 

"Ideally, we keep it below that, but at the end of the game, if it's crunch time and I need to be out there, I'm going to play as many snaps as I need to, but I think the goal is to try to get rest earlier in the game and steal some snaps on first and second down early," Bosa said. "So, by the time the third, fourth quarter rolls around, we have some in the tank that we could use. But yeah, the goal isn't to go out there and have an incredible one game. It's about consistency and longevity for the season to manage that."

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42034528/joey-bosa-new-chapter-injury-concerns-buffalo-bills

Pretty awesome to see his awareness and cooperation about the injuries and staying healthy for the big moments in late/post season!  Its got to be super difficult to admit.  Seems like his body feels great, Id imagine it'd lie to you a bit.  Try to convince you its different this time, it was a fluke before etc etc.  Incredible maturity and sign of a team player to agree to a plan like this before signing a deal... and even more so to continue being on board with it.  It'd eat away at so many players, only natural with their elevated competitive juices

[BillsShredder83]

5 hours ago, EssexBill said:

Apart from Josh, I'd say Joey is the most important piece of the superbowl puzzle. We've had the offence to get there for the last few years but the defence has always let the team down, I truly believe we'd have made it in 2022 if Von Miller hadn't got injured and Joey is the best passs rusher we've had since then.

If he stays healthy he'll get to Mahomes in the playoffs and that is the key as we've not gotten a sniff of him previously which has cost us regardless of how many points the offense have put on the board. Groot and Ed Oliver have shown they can't do it on the very biggest stage so we need someone at a higher level to do it, I'm hopeful Joey is that guy

Man it hurts to admit this, because going into the season I very much was 'plan to get nothing out of him & hope for the best' mentality.  I knew better than to get too hyped about it, but through 4 weeks I've lost the will power.

 

I gotta say if we can ramp him down a bit, get a healthy post season out of him, and win a Chip.... he seems like the kinda guy that would really give us every opportunity to get him back for a few years.  Hes an outdoorsy/hunting kinda guy isnt he?  With the southtowns so close, I could see him falling in love with the actual area of Buffalo too!! It kinda sneaks up on some of these guys