Game week thread - Pats at Bills SNF

[PatsFanNH]

11 minutes ago, Rockinon said:

You sure about that? The Jets moved the ball pretty easy against them.

Scoring D the Bills have faced the 32nd, 30th, 28th, 26th D the Steelers are 19th in scoring D which is the only stat IMO that matters lol (Pats are 9th and the Bills 16th fyi a hole 9 points difference lol) 

[Success]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Local radio picking NE. They said the Bills haven’t played anybody. And one of them is a ravens fan. Anyway …

 

It's  wild how the sentiment has evolved this whole week.  I think most analysts are still picking us, but there has been a huge amount of momentum of "maybe this Bills team isn't as good as their record" along with "maybe this Pats team is the real deal."

 

Enough of this.  If a dude doesn't step an inch out of bounds, the Pats have losses to Pitt, the Raiders & Miami, and they used special teams to get a big win over what could end up being the league's worst team, at home.

 

The only way they win this game is turnovers.  If we protect the ball, this is going to be a statement game that we still run the east, and it's not that close.

 

[boyst]

4 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Scoring D the Bills have faced the 32nd, 30th, 28th, 26th D the Steelers are 19th in scoring D which is the only stat IMO that matters lol (Pats are 9th and the Bills 16th fyi a hole 9 points difference lol) 

You're a pretentious ***** ain't ya?

[PatsFanNH]

2 minutes ago, Success said:

 

It's  wild how the sentiment has evolved this whole week.  I think most analysts are still picking us, but there has been a huge amount of momentum of "maybe this Bills team isn't as good as their record" along with "maybe this Pats team is the real deal."

 

Enough of this.  If a dude doesn't step an inch out of bounds, the Pats have losses to Pitt, the Raiders & Miami, and they used special teams to get a big win over what could end up being the league's worst team, at home.

 

The only way they win this game is turnovers.  If we protect the ball, this is going to be a statement game that we still run the east, and it's not that close.

 

The Dolphins Maye had like 1:45 left with I think 3 time outs.. I think they still win that won.. The dolphins D is hot garbage. 

 

I don’t expect a win, I will cheer for it, but don’t expect one. What’s funny I just looked at the remaining Pats schedule.. and with Buttows out I can see them finishing with 11 wins even dropping both games to. Buffalo and losing to the Ravens.. scary how winnable all the AFC games have gotten this year.. 

1 minute ago, boyst said:

You're a pretentious ***** ain't ya?

What do facts hurt your feelings? You call me names when all I did was state facts, what’s sad is I have already said I expect the Bills to win but for some reason a few of you Bills fans get you undies twisted when it’s pointed out simple truths to you. I mean do you have a valid argument or better discussion or are you just going call me names because you have nothing of value to add? 

[boyst]

5 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

The Dolphins Maye had like 1:45 left with I think 3 time outs.. I think they still win that won.. The dolphins D is hot garbage. 

 

I don’t expect a win, I will cheer for it, but don’t expect one. What’s funny I just looked at the remaining Pats schedule.. and with Buttows out I can see them finishing with 11 wins even dropping both games to. Buffalo and losing to the Ravens.. scary how winnable all the AFC games have gotten this year.. 

What do facts hurt your feelings? You call me names when all I did was state facts, what’s sad is I have already said I expect the Bills to win but for some reason a few of you Bills fans get you undies twisted when it’s pointed out simple truths to you. I mean do you have a valid argument or better discussion or are you just going call me names because you have nothing of value to add? 

You're reversing the script people used on new England when the patriots would face soft competition.

"We just play the schedule we have." 

 

It's week 4. The ravens have more talent than the Patriots. The Dolphins pushed the Patriots hard than they did the bills.

 

God patriots fans are stupid clowns. 

[Rockinon]

5 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

The Dolphins Maye had like 1:45 left with I think 3 time outs.. I think they still win that won.. The dolphins D is hot garbage. 

 

I don’t expect a win, I will cheer for it, but don’t expect one. What’s funny I just looked at the remaining Pats schedule.. and with Buttows out I can see them finishing with 11 wins even dropping both games to. Buffalo and losing to the Ravens.. scary how winnable all the AFC games have gotten this year.. 

I'm sure with the way NE likes to cough up the ball, there'll be a couple of stinkers in there. 

[BillsFan130]

51 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

EPA is not a pff metric

I know it's not, I didn't word my statement well

[PatsFanNH]

2 minutes ago, boyst said:

You're reversing the script people used on new England when the patriots would face soft competition.

"We just play the schedule we have." 

 

It's week 4. The ravens have more talent than the Patriots. The Dolphins pushed the Patriots hard than they did the bills.

 

God patriots fans are stupid clowns. 

Sigh I said that in an earlier post, that you play who’s on your schedule and I said that about the Steelers to make the point what Maye did the last 3 games was impressive had nothing do with saying your schedule has been weak (which both teams schedules have been). YOU'RE the one got butt hurt from me stating something make a point about my QB performance being impressive and had nothing to do with the Bills wins.

 

as for the Ravens say whatever you want their D right now is ranked dead last in scoring they stink at this point on D. Thats a simple fact.

 

I see Bills nation has gained more trolls by being good..

7 minutes ago, Rockinon said:

I'm sure with the way NE likes to cough up the ball, there'll be a couple of stinkers in there. 

Very very possible!! But it should be a fun season for us hopefully see the Bills in like the AFCCG game lmao (I kid before some troll calls me delusional) but be fun get a 3rd match in the playoffs

[MiltonWaddams]

After so many years of Pats dominance, I always hope that the Bills destroy them each and every time they play. Massholes can eat a big one.

[JGMcD2]

2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

Umm ok.. first the Pats SHOULD have been blown out by Pittsburgh. The offense played downright awful ball with 5 turnovers. (I can excuse the Maye INT since it was tipped at the line) the fact they were even still in that game boggles my mind..

 

That said against the ONLY good O your D has faced it gave up 40 points. After that you faced garbage teams just like NE has if we are honest we don’t know what either D is capable of yet. Why? The Bills after week 1 played well but against no one, while the Pats D didn’t pass the eye test the first 3 weeks but just got their CB1 back last week. (Pats have little Depth anywhere)

 

As I have said I expect the Bills to win Sunday but if the Pats don’t turn the ball over the game should be close and fun to watch.  (I mean this is the best team from this year both teams have faced.. the combined record of all our opponents Are 7-23 that’s god awful!)

I was specifically countering the poster who was trying to make the case that the Steelers’ defense is some sort of measuring stick through the first four weeks of 2025. I didn’t really have much to say about the Patriots’ offense - though that poster was hyping them up for moving the ball against Pittsburgh, conveniently ignoring the five turnovers they committed when claiming they could move the ball at will against Buffalo.

 

Let me get this right... the jury is still out on Buffalo because they played well against weak teams while missing multiple defensive starters, and at the same time, your argument is that the jury is still out on the Patriots’ defense just because they got a starter back after performing poorly against weak teams? Make it make sense.

 

I’m not convinced this is the best team Buffalo has faced. They played the Ravens at full strength, and Baltimore is on another level compared to New England. I’m pretty confident that will be reflected in their record by the end of the 2025 season, assuming Lamar Jackson gets healthy.

Edited 8 hours ago by JGMcD2

[PatsFanNH]

36 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

I was specifically countering the poster who was trying to make the case that the Steelers’ defense is some sort of measuring stick through the first four weeks of 2025. I didn’t really have much to say about the Patriots’ offense - though that poster was hyping them up for moving the ball against Pittsburgh, conveniently ignoring the five turnovers they committed when claiming they could move the ball at will against Buffalo.

 

Let me get this right... the jury is still out on Buffalo because they played well against weak teams while missing multiple defensive starters, and at the same time, your argument is that the jury is still out on the Patriots’ defense just because they got a starter back after performing poorly against weak teams? Make it make sense.

 

I’m not convinced this is the best team Buffalo has faced. They played the Ravens at full strength, and Baltimore is on another level compared to New England. I’m pretty confident that will be reflected in their record by the end of the 2025 season, assuming Lamar Jackson gets healthy.

Yes the jury is still out on BOTH defenses. The one good/great O you faced they gave up 40 points after that you faced the Jets, Dolphins, and Saints.. lol I don’t think anyone considering them great or good O especially with Tua this year for Miami.. The Pats D has played well enough to be 3-1 the O 100% lost the Steelers game with turnovers but they don’t pass the eye test it’s scary every time they are out there it feels.. So the Jury is also out on them even if if scoring D wise they are top 10.. they to have faced no scary good O yet till the Bills this Sunday..

 

Also my statement about the Steelers was more about the fact it is impressive because it’s a better D than either team has faced so far..  not that Buffalo recorded is tarnished by who they faced.. you win the games you have in front of you and they did.

 

And the Ravens aren’t just bad on D they are the WORST D in the NFL right now.. injuries happen and they SHOULD have enough depth to win these games or at least help keep them in the games.. they have not they are awful.. and I won’t lie I don’t know if they were or were not 100% in game 1 all I can do is go by their stats and statistically they are just awful everywhere on D. 

Edited 8 hours ago by PatsFanNH

[mbs]

12 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

And the Ravens aren’t just bad on D they are the WORST D in the NFL right now.. injuries happen and they SHOULD have enough depth to win these games or at least help keep them in the games.. they have not they are awful.. and I won’t lie I don’t know if they were or were not 100% in game 1 all I can do is go by their stats and statistically they are just awful everywhere on D.

The Ravens have played half their games against the top two scoring offenses in the league. In their last game they were missing half their starters against Mahomes with Worthy. We are only four games in, tossing out "last in scoring" is worthless. Detroit put up 38 against the Ravens and then put up 34 against the Browns who are supposed to have an elite D this year. They gave up 40 to Josh Allen in an amazing Josh Allen type roll and given at least one short field.

 

Stats are hard enough to make sense of in a 17 game season, raw ranks like this at less than the 1/4 mark is worth less than a quarter of a pail of spit.

[fergie's ire]

4 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

always “interesting” to see Kurt warner’s breakdowns. I will say he does make some insightful points about how these receivers ought to be running their routes and what the right or better reads are. 
 

That said, I have always found his analyses to be overly critical of QBs. Eg, Maye completes a 30-yard strike to Diggs and Warner points out that the better read was a receiver on the other side of the field. Fair point. But it’s easy to second guess everything from a film breakdown.

What I found odd, is that a couple of years ago, he was very critical of Josh turning the ball over too much.  He even said something along the lines of "I understand that he is taking chances and that he can complete many of these throws that nobody else can, but still, he turns the ball over too much for my liking."  I think that's a fair criticism...but really odd coming from Warner.  He was part of the greatest show on turf, and Mike Martz actually said that he told his QBs not to fear throwing interceptions.  He wanted them to throw fifty fifty balls down field, knowing that with their receivers it was more like 75/25.  It seemed odd for a coach to say "I don't care if my QB throws an interception," but even stranger for that QB to later saying he doesn't like seeing QBs turn the ball over.

[NewEra]

3 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: (I mean this is the best team from this year both teams have faced.. the combined record of all our opponents Are 7-23 that’s god awful!)

This patriot team isn’t as good as the ravens that we faced on opening day.  Not even close, sorry. 
 

the ravens lost to the bills, Lions and Chiefs. You lost to the raiders and Steelers. To say that this iteration of the pats is better than the ravens team that we faced week one is a joke.  
 

I'm a huge Maye fan and I think that the game will be very close.  We may even lose if we’re without Ed, Milano, both Dorians.  Plus brown and sanders are tbd.  But the ravens we faced are a better teams.  

30 minutes ago, mbs said:

The Ravens have played half their games against the top two scoring offenses in the league. In their last game they were missing half their starters against Mahomes with Worthy. We are only four games in, tossing out "last in scoring" is worthless. Detroit put up 38 against the Ravens and then put up 34 against the Browns who are supposed to have an elite D this year. They gave up 40 to Josh Allen in an amazing Josh Allen type roll and given at least one short field.

 

Stats are hard enough to make sense of in a 17 game season, raw ranks like this at less than the 1/4 mark is worth less than a quarter of a pail of spit.

Stop making sense.  Dude is soaking up his massive win vs Carolina and not making much sense.  As if the offenses that you play against don’t factor in to defenses point against.  

[PatsFanNH]

4 minutes ago, NewEra said:

This patriot team isn’t as good as the ravens that we faced on opening day.  Not even close, sorry. 
 

the ravens lost to the bills, Lions and Chiefs. You lost to the raiders and Steelers. To say that this iteration of the pats is better than the ravens team that we faced week one is a joke.  
 

I'm a huge Maye fan and I think that the game will be very close.  We may even lose if we’re without Ed, Milano, both Dorians.  Plus brown and sanders are tbd.  But the ravens we faced are a better teams.  

Stop making sense.  Dude is soaking up his massive win vs Carolina and not making much sense.  As if the offenses that you play against don’t factor in to defenses point against.  

Lmao I remember you New Era and for some reason the one comment I made to show that. Maye last 3 games were impressive have taken a life of their own.. because someone was saying how he only had 1 good game.

 

I also didn’t say the Steelers were a better team but if both are healthy, I am definitely more worried and scared of the Steelers than the ravens  DEFENSE.. now offense.. ya the Ravens O is one of the best in the NFL thus why I originally said why we don’t know how good Buffalo D truly is because you faced a really good O then 3 garbage O,s.. the Pats D just doesn’t look right and also only faced 1 good O and 3 garbage O and looked bad against one of the garbage O.. but were without there top CB till last week so does that change things? I don’t know this why I’m unsure about them.. 

 

I have also said I think the Bills are the class of the AFC this year and should be repping the AFC in the SB anything less and I’d be shocked because the rest of the AFC is a dang mess in comparison. 

[Perk71]

2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

The Dolphins Maye had like 1:45 left with I think 3 time outs.. I think they still win that won.. The dolphins D is hot garbage. 

 

I don’t expect a win, I will cheer for it, but don’t expect one. What’s funny I just looked at the remaining Pats schedule.. and with Buttows out I can see them finishing with 11 wins even dropping both games to. Buffalo and losing to the Ravens.. scary how winnable all the AFC games have gotten this year.. 

What do facts hurt your feelings? You call me names when all I did was state facts, what’s sad is I have already said I expect the Bills to win but for some reason a few of you Bills fans get you undies twisted when it’s pointed out simple truths to you. I mean do you have a valid argument or better discussion or are you just going call me names because you have nothing of value to add? 

4-0, soon to be 5-0 🤙🏽

 

Go Bills!!

 

 

[dcinmuncie]

5 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

(flipping through Pats roster looking for players named Dorian)

Dorian diggs

dorian maye 

dorian Henry 

Dorian Gonzalez 

[Sojourner]

2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

Scoring D the Bills have faced the 32nd, 30th, 28th, 26th D the Steelers are 19th in scoring D which is the only stat IMO that matters lol (Pats are 9th and the Bills 16th fyi a hole 9 points difference lol) 

Still 2nd in points scored. Put up points when it matters. 

[OneBeforeIDie]

I very rarely post on this site. I trust a lot of people on here to have way more football knowledge than I do. Maybe it's the 17 years of no playoffs, the wind game, them beating us a few years ago, etc. I don't ever take NE laying down. They are better than Miami and NY for sure. I respect their coach, and their QB seems competent if not good. I don't trust our defense and we can't throw down field. With the injuries we heard about today, it just makes me more worried.  

 

Just be focused, don't turn the ball over, take this team seriously, be ready to score, and expect a grind. I wish we would destroy them. I want that. Ha. 

 

Go Bills! 

[PatsFanNH]

15 minutes ago, Perk71 said:

4-0, soon to be 5-0 🤙🏽

 

Go Bills!!

 

 

I think I have repeatedly said I expect the Bills to win… 🤔