Robert Saleh Accuses Jaguars of Stealing Signs - Points the Finger At Entire McVay Coaching Tree

[Ayjent]

If you know a team’s proclivity to steal and how… seems like you already know how to stay a step ahead by using that to take advantage of what they think your team is going to do.  That’s the best way to make them think twice about it. 

[Beck Water]

On 9/26/2025 at 2:58 PM, ToGoGo said:

Interesting accusation from Saleh yesterday, naming a lot of names. Liam Coen was asked about this at a press conference today and he didn't deny it, just said he didn't want to talk about it. 

 

How does this affect your opinion of NFL games knowing this might be a thing? Do the Bills do it? How much of what we blame on our team could just be the result of the other coaching staff knowing our plays ahead of time, rather than execution or effort or Xs and Os coaching prowess? Do the Chiefs do this in our playoff games? 

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/why-robert-saleh-accused-jaguars-sign-stealing

 

 

In the sense that Saleh is talking about, all NFL teams try to do it.  They subscribe to services like PFF that track plays called or defenses used by down and distance and personnel on the field.  They look for tendencies and patterns.  They look for tells in the cadence and the movement of the QB's hands - early on, Peyton Manning called out a "tell" he spotted with Josh Allen and told him during a Manningcast to correct it.  And yes, the Chiefs have done this to the Bills.  Probably the most effective was the 2020 playoff game, where the Chiefs had a whole season of empty stadium play calls to analyze and they did it.

 

What Saleh is saying is that McVay's coaching tree is very successful, more successful than most, and the Jags among them.

 

He's not saying that the Jags or anyone are doing what the Cheatriots did, where they were videotaping practices, intercepting radio feeds, and recording opponents sidelines.

[Buffalo716]

26 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

In the sense that Saleh is talking about, all NFL teams try to do it.  They subscribe to services like PFF that track plays called or defenses used by down and distance and personnel on the field.  They look for tendencies and patterns.  They look for tells in the cadence and the movement of the QB's hands - early on, Peyton Manning called out a "tell" he spotted with Josh Allen and told him during a Manningcast to correct it.  And yes, the Chiefs have done this to the Bills.  Probably the most effective was the 2020 playoff game, where the Chiefs had a whole season of empty stadium play calls to analyze and they did it.

 

What Saleh is saying is that McVay's coaching tree is very successful, more successful than most, and the Jags among them.

 

He's not saying that the Jags or anyone are doing what the Cheatriots did, where they were videotaping practices, intercepting radio feeds, and recording opponents sidelines.

I think he's also alluding to that they are picking up on their in-game signs 

 

Like they're not changing their hand signals week to week.. so they're picking up their hand signals on game tape.. dissecting it till they know what it means 

 

And they're not changing it up enough that it becomes predictable 

 

You'll see our linebackers or secondary players giving hands signals to each other all the time which is coming from the sidelines a good amount... You have to change those signs up or they can be deciphered 

 

Crossing x on your forehead can't mean the same thing every week if you're a linebacker relaying signs... Same thing with a offensive audible with a hand gesture.. you have to switch it up at QB or even vocal audible... Golden Wheels can't be the same play every week or it's going to be a tell

 

 

Edited September 28 by Buffalo716

[Saint Doug]

There’s ways if masking signs if you know they are watching. Plus, talent trumps sign stealing 6/7 days a week. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

And here's the post game fall out lol. Video posted in story. 

 

https://talksport.com/nfl/3596496/kyle-shanahan-liam-coen-robert-salah-jaguars-sanfrancisco-49ers/

Edited September 29 by BuffaloBillyG

[wppete]

Everyone does it in pro and college football. Also everyone in Baseball does it. Nothing new here. Part of the game. 

[Orlando Buffalo]

I think Salah is insinuating that the way they steal it is using something beyond what is legal. Because otherwise he comes off stupid and whiny

[PoundingDog]

Pete Prisco said on ESPN radio this morning that the scoop is Liam Coen and Robert Salah developed bad blood as the finalists for the jags HC gig. It is inconceivable to me how candidates for a job can become so hostile without any other stories behind it.  

[Mike in Horseheads]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

And here's the post game fall out lol. Video posted in story. 

 

https://talksport.com/nfl/3596496/kyle-shanahan-liam-coen-robert-salah-jaguars-sanfrancisco-49ers/

They were talking about this on Dan Lebatard earlier. Sounded like Salah basically threatened to kill coen

[ToGoGo]

19 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

I think Salah is insinuating that the way they steal it is using something beyond what is legal. Because otherwise he comes off stupid and whiny

 

I get that sense too. If everyone does it, like some in this thread allude to, then why point the finger at that coaching tree? Why did Coen react like that if it's a nothingburger? Maybe there's more to it that Saleh can't say? 

[Mat68]

Saleh to me has always come off like a prick.  As DC of SF as head coach of the Jets.  Saleh throws shade then poorly back tracks it.  Coen right to be pissed and talk ***** after the win.  

[stevewin]

46 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Saleh to me has always come off like a prick.  As DC of SF as head coach of the Jets.  Saleh throws shade then poorly back tracks it.  Coen right to be pissed and talk ***** after the win.  

Saleh is all gasbag no brake

[Mr. WEO]

On 9/27/2025 at 2:12 PM, Ayjent said:

If you know a team’s proclivity to steal and how… seems like you already know how to stay a step ahead by using that to take advantage of what they think your team is going to do.  That’s the best way to make them think twice about it. 

Saleh seems to take pleasure in pointing out his own stupidity.