Will we see analytics take over more of the last 2 minutes of the game?

[Another Fan]

This is where I'm going with this......

 

Week 1 the announcers seemed to think it was dumb that Ravens player tried tackling Coleman at the 10 yard line with like 30 seconds left.  Well notably Collinsworth.  Let the Bills score then the Ravens can at least get a chance to get the ball back even if they are down by a touchdown.  

 

 

The Jets game today as well...   I kind of couldn't help on that blocked field goal that wound up in a touchdown if that Jet would have been better off taking a dive at the 10 yard line with like 2 minutes left down 6.  Then just take it for there.  I mean the way the Bucs came right back and won it anyway.

 

 

I know this thought process seems a bit out there but with the kickoffs coming out to the 35 yard line now and how offensive friendly the league is......   Can you see stuff like this happening?  

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[ticketssince61]

40 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

 

 

 

The Jets game today as well...   I kind of couldn't help on that blocked field goal that wound up in a touchdown if that Jet would have been better off taking a dive at the 10 yard line with like 2 minutes left down 6.  Then just take it for there.  I mean the way the Bucs came right back and won it anyway.

 

 

 

They needed a TD to win ... not a FG. 

[Another Fan]

2 minutes ago, ticketssince61 said:

 

They needed a TD to win ... not a FG. 

Still.  In retrospect it might have been in their best interest for that player to go down at the 5 yard line then take their chances trying to get in the end zone.  While taking time off the clock

 

I could see more stuff like this happening going forward kind of thing....

 

With touchbacks coming out to the 35 yard line and field goals kickers with increasingly stronger legs 

[Mikie2times]

I don’t think these are best examples OP, just because they’re in the moment plays. But I do think we will start to see teams throwing more when a team has two or three timeouts. Run, Run, Pass, is how the Ravens ultimately lost (many things but that was one). It’s how the Cardinals lost today. Run your damn offense.  3rd and long with your opponent short two timeouts is not a victory in that situation. It’s exactly what the defense wants. 

[Another Fan]

11 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

I don’t think these are best examples OP, just because they’re in the moment plays. But I do think we will start to see teams throwing more when a team has two or three timeouts. Run, Run, Pass, is how the Ravens ultimately lost (many things but that was one). It’s how the Cardinals lost today. Run your damn offense.  3rd and long with your opponent short two timeouts is not a victory in that situation. It’s exactly what the defense wants. 

I agree they were very in the moments plays....  at the same time though with more and more analysis and probabilities going into these games...  it wouldn't surprise me if in the not too near future coaches and players have more general awareness of this in the moment toward the end of games 

[djp14150]

54 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

This is where I'm going with this......

 

Week 1 the announcers seemed to think it was dumb that Ravens player tried tackling Coleman at the 10 yard line with like 30 seconds left.  Well notably Collinsworth.  Let the Bills score then the Ravens can at least get a chance to get the ball back even if they are down by a touchdown.  

 

 

The Jets game today as well...   I kind of couldn't help on that blocked field goal that wound up in a touchdown if that Jet would have been better off taking a dive at the 10 yard line with like 2 minutes left down 6.  Then just take it for there.  I mean the way the Bucs came right back and won it anyway.

 

 

I know this thought process seems a bit out there but with the kickoffs coming out to the 35 yard line now and how offensive friendly the league is......   Can you see stuff like this happening?  

 

in another game today….

 

Houston- Jacksonville which was tied 10-10 under 2 to go , Jacksonville had a long pass play getting them to a 1st and goal just inside the 10 with around 1:48 to go.  Next play Houston let them score a TD.  Houston had only 2 TO left before the play.  If they stopped them on 2 plays then a run, thry were looking at down 3+ with around 45 seconds left after the kick off and no time outs left.

 

i recall another game where they let them score, even though the score put them up 2 scores, it saved time where a comeback could be possible.
 

Say it’s 4 minutes left, you have 2 TO and the 2 min warning. They have 1st and goal from the 5.

 

option 1 you burn 2 TOs, hold them to a FG, you get the ball back with 3 min, you need a score+ onside kick and then score.

 

ootion 2 you let them score going up by 14 with 4 left. You have the ogpffense to score in 90 or so seconds, then KO and you have 2 TO+2 min warning to stop them and get the ball back to score.

 

obviously the probability odds are far better in option 2.

 

 

[djp14150]

30 minutes ago, ticketssince61 said:

 

They needed a TD to win ... not a FG. 

 

yes. Players aren’t knowing or thinking of that since this was a special team return.

 

yes ideally they go down around the 15. For e Tampa to use their final 2 time outs, get a 1st inside the 5, then score a TD with under 30 seconds left increases the odds of winning the game than the team having 1:40 or so left and 2 time outs and only need a FG to win

[dave mcbride]

Happened last week with Houston too. The Texans clearly let Chubb score because otherwise they had zero chance. 

[FireChans]

33 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

Still.  In retrospect it might have been in their best interest for that player to go down at the 5 yard line then take their chances trying to get in the end zone.  While taking time off the clock

 

I could see more stuff like this happening going forward kind of thing....

 

With touchbacks coming out to the 35 yard line and field goals kickers with increasingly stronger legs 

NFL teams don’t take points off the board if they need them to win.

 

not every team has a Josh Allen where 3-4 plays within the 10 almost always equals a TD.

[Another Fan]

4 minutes ago, FireChans said:

NFL teams don’t take points off the board if they need them to win.

 

not every team has a Josh Allen where 3-4 plays within the 10 almost always equals a TD.

But if you're even giving a team down 2 a chance to score with say 2 minutes left......  odds are even the average team will.  

 

I could see going forward play calling being affected