Cugalabanza Posted September 18 Posted September 18 43 minutes ago, SCBills said: That's not true. In Rosanne's case, her own cast and crew turned against her. Nobody wanted to work with her. I don't think you'll find any credible evidence that Obama had anything at all to do with that. 2
SectionC3 Posted September 18 Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: You either tow the line or you are done. The not so slow road to fascism here. I thought about this last night. The difference between this issue and a different private sector firing is that the FCC stepped in and (to my knowledge) impliedly threatened the license(s) of ABC. I don't think what Kimmel said was in great taste, although I happen to think it to be arguably true. I am appalled by the government's intervention and thumb on the scale on this issue. It is completely wrong. 1 hour ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: He can't outright lie anymore. Boohoo If that's the trigger for cancellation, then the President should have been cancelled quite awhile ago. 29 minutes ago, Wacka said: Kimmel FA'd and FO'd. Yeah, he found out that MAGA is into using the government to cancel people. 2
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 18 Posted September 18 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: I thought about this last night. The difference between this issue and a different private sector firing is that the FCC stepped in and (to my knowledge) impliedly threatened the license(s) of ABC. I don't think what Kimmel said was in great taste, although I happen to think it to be arguably true. I am appalled by the government's intervention and thumb on the scale on this issue. It is completely wrong. If that's the trigger for cancellation, then the President should have been cancelled quite awhile ago. Kimmel has been lying for a while.
SectionC3 Posted September 18 Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: So just accuse someone on lying and you can get them replaced on national media? Wow, the whole media is going to be pro-Trump soon Putin's Russia here we come. I guess I'll have to stop posting soon, too or I'll get reported Make America Great Again? Wow Apparently America is great when we threaten license holders for exercising speech. Just now, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Kimmel has been lying for a while. Even assuming that he has been lying, so has Fox and Trump, to far more significant degrees. Why was the ABC broadcasting license threatened, but not that of Fox? And, is it acceptable to lie on cable news (no FCC license), or in an elected position, but not on broadcast television?
boyst Posted September 18 Posted September 18 22 minutes ago, Cugalabanza said: That's not true. In Rosanne's case, her own cast and crew turned against her. Nobody wanted to work with her. I don't think you'll find any credible evidence that Obama had anything at all to do with that. they were fearful of retaliation and retribution by the rest of hollywood... hollywood has always been left, at times socialism/nazi sympathizers.
JDHillFan Posted September 18 Posted September 18 3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: I thought about this last night. The difference between this issue and a different private sector firing is that the FCC stepped in and (to my knowledge) impliedly threatened the license(s) of ABC. I don't think what Kimmel said was in great taste, although I happen to think it to be arguably true. I am appalled by the government's intervention and thumb on the scale on this issue. It is completely wrong. If that's the trigger for cancellation, then the President should have been cancelled quite awhile ago. If by arguably true you mean completely false, I agree with you. I also agree that the FCC should not have put their thumb on the scale here. arguably true = alternative facts. Laughable. 1
wnyguy Posted September 18 Posted September 18 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: Apparently America is great when we threaten license holders for exercising speech. I didn't see you guys crying when people were getting cancelled all over the place for not going along with the leftist doctrine in the past. Heck, they tore down historical statues in order to submit to the left lunatics.
LeviF Posted September 18 Posted September 18 7 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Yeah, he found out that MAGA is into using the government to cancel people. A Congressman went on twitter to say that the Trump MSG rally was worse than a Hitler rally because a comedian made a joke about Latino fecundity.
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 18 Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: So just accuse someone on lying and you can get them replaced on national media? Wow, the whole media is going to be pro-Trump soon Putin's Russia here we come. I guess I'll have to stop posting soon, too or I'll get reported Make America Great Again? Wow This is simply a learning opportunity for liberal cancel culture enthusiasts to experience the meaning of the old saying, "Live by the sword, die by the sword". 2
SectionC3 Posted September 18 Posted September 18 2 minutes ago, LeviF said: A Congressman went on twitter to say that the Trump MSG rally was worse than a Hitler rally because a comedian made a joke about Latino fecundity. Sweet. How did the government lean on business interests there? 4 minutes ago, wnyguy said: I didn't see you guys crying when people were getting cancelled all over the place for not going along with the leftist doctrine in the past. Heck, they tore down historical statues in order to submit to the left lunatics. Who did the FCC threaten under Obama, or Biden, or Clinton? 7 minutes ago, boyst said: they were fearful of retaliation and retribution by the rest of hollywood... hollywood has always been left, at times socialism/nazi sympathizers. Apparently the switch has flipped, eh? Government ownership of Intel all of a sudden isn't socialism, but . . . whatever it is that MAGA calls it these days. 1 1
Cugalabanza Posted September 18 Posted September 18 1 minute ago, boyst said: they were fearful of retaliation and retribution by the rest of hollywood... hollywood has always been left, at times socialism/nazi sympathizers. Actually, Roseanne Barr was quite out of her mind and it was clear that it was not possible for the show to go forward. The important point is that the administration did not cause it to happen. The fact that you disagree with the politics of most of the entertainment industry is unrelated. What is happening with Kimmel is directly the result of the current administration using its power and influence to eliminate people and voices that they disagree with. Anyone who has ever supported free speech or the constitution or American freedoms generally should be against this. I get why some people are celebrating, because they happen to hate Kimmel, but it's clear that this sets a very bad precedent. It's authoritarian. 1 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 18 Posted September 18 1 minute ago, Cugalabanza said: Actually, Roseanne Barr was quite out of her mind and it was clear that it was not possible for the show to go forward. The important point is that the administration did not cause it to happen. The fact that you disagree with the politics of most of the entertainment industry is unrelated. What is happening with Kimmel is directly the result of the current administration using its power and influence to eliminate people and voices that they disagree with. Anyone who has ever supported free speech or the constitution or American freedoms generally should be against this. I get why some people are celebrating, because they happen to hate Kimmel, but it's clear that this sets a very bad precedent. It's authoritarian. Jimmy Kimmel is purposely pushing a false narrative. Can it.
Yobogoya! Posted September 18 Posted September 18 3 minutes ago, Cugalabanza said: What is happening with Kimmel is directly the result of the current administration using its power and influence to eliminate people and voices that they disagree with. Anyone who has ever supported free speech or the constitution or American freedoms generally should be against this. I get why some people are celebrating, because they happen to hate Kimmel, but it's clear that this sets a very bad precedent. It's authoritarian. Kimmel got the axe because he wasn't making the network any money, and thus is no longer worth the network's trouble. Plenty of people are still on TV right now criticizing Trump, MAGA, etc. There's still plenty of drivel for you to hate-watch if you're so inclined. Nothing to worry about. 1
Cugalabanza Posted September 18 Posted September 18 1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Jimmy Kimmel is purposely pushing a false narrative. Can it. Well, to address the specifics of what Kimmel said, I think he was wrong to connect the Kirk killer to MAGA. However, at that time, there were a lot of reports about who this killer was, his politics, etc... The story at that time was that the guy's family was MAGA. We've learned more since then. But anyway, none of that would be sufficient for a POTUS and his administration to do what is being done here. This is authoritarian. I think you know this, but instead of admitting it, it's more fun to celebrate this as a Win for you.
Royale with Cheese Posted September 18 Posted September 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Now they can't hurt Trump's little feelings. Our national media should be shaped to glorify Dear Leader, not hold him accountable Onward to a New America! He lied. The FCC doesn't protect Trump, it protects consumers from integrity communications. Kimmel violated it. He intentionally lied to the public in a public platform. Freedom of Speech has limits. You can't say bomb on a plane. You cant say you're going to murder people. You can't violate conditions of the FCC. Edited September 18 by Royale with Cheese 1
LeviF Posted September 18 Posted September 18 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: Sweet. How did the government lean on business interests there? By a government official taking to his official, government official account (complete with the little US Capitol icon) to call a comedian a Nazi. Even after moving the goalposts (from "using the government to cancel people" to "lean on business interests," a motte/bailey if I ever saw one) you have nothing. But if you're actually too thick to understand how that's exactly what you're talking about (you're not), the Biden WH sent daily emails to Meta demanding certain content be banished from their sites. You're lying because you can't actually defend Kimmel on the merits. He lied about an assassination on broadcast television. His network is restricted from airing anything about a crime they know to be false at the time of airing. The FCC thinks that his network can be punished for it. The network's lawyers appear to agree. Carr is absolutely in the right to warn and fine ABC over it. 2
Royale with Cheese Posted September 18 Posted September 18 1 minute ago, Cugalabanza said: Well, to address the specifics of what Kimmel said, I think he was wrong to connect the Kirk killer to MAGA. However, at that time, there were a lot of reports about who this killer was, his politics, etc... The story at that time was that the guy's family was MAGA. We've learned more since then. But anyway, none of that would be sufficient for a POTUS and his administration to do what is being done here. This is authoritarian. I think you know this, but instead of admitting it, it's more fun to celebrate this as a Win for you. That's the only thing that matters. He was wrong. He violated the FCC conditions.
SCBills Posted September 18 Posted September 18 (edited) My favorite part is how there’s an unlimited amount of Democrat politicians & pundits calling for the removal of conservative voices. We could spend all day linking example after example. “What if the shoe is on the other foot when a Democrat is in charge?” It literally has been for the past decade. Libs are finally seeing what happens when the apparatus they created is turned on them. Edited September 18 by SCBills 1
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