billsintaiwan Posted Wednesday at 07:03 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:03 PM (edited) 20 hours ago, julian said: Lamar is all about his stats, and irregardless of the narrative to the opposite, Lamar wants the MVPs badly and for that reason I never believed for moment that he pulled himself out of the game. You unironically used "irregardless" in a post. Edited Wednesday at 07:03 PM by billsintaiwan Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted Wednesday at 07:45 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:45 PM 1 hour ago, DapperCam said: https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2025/10/01/lamar-jackson-injury-status-hamstring-try-to-play-texans/86458418007/ Now, I’m not saying they made up an injury designation to save face. But him gutting it out and playing this week is what that would look like. Here we go, @BillsFan130. The team is already backtracking and changing their story. "Lamar Jackson's hamstring injury is more "week-to-week" than 2-3 weeks, and he will try to play this week" Quote
julian Posted Wednesday at 07:56 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:56 PM 52 minutes ago, billsintaiwan said: You unironically used "irregardless" in a post. 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted Wednesday at 08:02 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:02 PM 13 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Here we go, @BillsFan130. The team is already backtracking and changing their story. "Lamar Jackson's hamstring injury is more "week-to-week" than 2-3 weeks, and he will try to play this week" I'm not sure why you're trying to argue here. You acknowledged he actually did get hurt and has a hammy pull. Correct? Which is what I was saying. So what exactly is your main point. Is it That he's not "tough enough" to play through a pulled hamstring? Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted Wednesday at 08:12 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:12 PM 8 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: I'm not sure why you're trying to argue here. You acknowledged he actually did get hurt and has a hammy pull. Correct? Which is what I was saying. So what exactly is your main point. Is it That he's not "tough enough" to play through a pulled hamstring? That he was barely injured, certainly not enough to take him out of the Chiefs game, they made a bigger deal of his hammy to save face, and now they are slowly and surely walking it back. It wasnt pulled. There was something about you "taking an L" if he played this week, but I wont go that far. Lamar is SOFT 2 Quote
GaryPinC Posted Wednesday at 08:17 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:17 PM 30 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Here we go, @BillsFan130. The team is already backtracking and changing their story. "Lamar Jackson's hamstring injury is more "week-to-week" than 2-3 weeks, and he will try to play this week" Yeah, that's all very weird. Just call him day to day then. I agree with the author that if it's still truly hurt come Sunday he could easily make it worse and really tank the season. Got my popcorn ready! 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted Wednesday at 08:27 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:27 PM 12 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: That he was barely injured, certainly not enough to take him out of the Chiefs game, they made a bigger deal of his hammy to save face, and now they are slowly and surely walking it back. It wasnt pulled. There was something about you "taking an L" if he played this week, but I wont go that far. Lamar is SOFT Ok so you're backtracking then. As I can quote you as you said multiple times he hurt his hamstring. I will take the L if he plays this week. Nothing has changed my friend. I expect the same from you if he doesn't play Quote
Charles Romes Posted Wednesday at 08:41 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:41 PM (edited) The stat mongerong of Lamar was clear last year and it’s picked up right where it ended. The moment was too big to risk stats against the Bills on fourth down. Against the Browns, he was there again late in the fourth padding the completion and TD numbers like all last year. He knows (like Rob Johnson knew) that the QB rating does not factor in sacks, so there he was against the lions taking sack after sack rather than risk any pick to help his team win. Now it’s confirmed with his miraculous hammy recovery that he was scared of more picks versus the chiefs as he knew he had no answer for spags. The only shock v the chiefs is that he did not insert himself back in with four minutes left in to post another Lamaresque garbage-time 11/12 170 2/0 run. Edited Wednesday at 08:45 PM by Charles Romes 3 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted Wednesday at 09:05 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:05 PM 34 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Ok so you're backtracking then. As I can quote you as you said multiple times he hurt his hamstring. I will take the L if he plays this week. Nothing has changed my friend. I expect the same from you if he doesn't play Not backtracking, the Ravens are. Every player, EVERY player, has dents, dings, bumps and bruises. The difference is, they're all playing through them, and Lamar uses them as an excuse to pull himself out of games when the going gets tough. No Ls necessary. All of us here are eating Ws because we have Josh. Just keep it in mind as you watch Lamar's career. He's soft and quits on his team. Quote
BillsFan130 Posted Wednesday at 09:20 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:20 PM (edited) 15 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Not backtracking, the Ravens are. Every player, EVERY player, has dents, dings, bumps and bruises. The difference is, they're all playing through them, and Lamar uses them as an excuse to pull himself out of games when the going gets tough. No Ls necessary. All of us here are eating Ws because we have Josh. Just keep it in mind as you watch Lamar's career. He's soft and quits on his team. In this thread to paraphrase, you have said: 1. He pulled himself out of the game because of a bad situation 2. That you expect him to miss the next game 3. You said he tweaked his hamstring and he's actually hurt 4. Now you said His hamstring isn't pulled. 5. And finally you're hinting like you thinks he plays this weekend Which one is it buddy? As you're just flip flopping your opinion every minute lol Edited Wednesday at 09:20 PM by BillsFan130 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted Wednesday at 09:22 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:22 PM 2 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: In this thread to paraphrase, you have said: 1. He pulled himself out of the game because of a bad situation 2. That you expect him to miss the next game 3. You said he tweaked his hamstring and he's actually hurt 4. Now you said His hamstring isn't pulled. 5. And finally you're hinting like you thinks he plays this weekend Which one is it buddy? As you're just flip flopping your opinion every minute lol the RAVENS are flip flopping around! 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted Wednesday at 09:24 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:24 PM Just now, DrDawkinstein said: the RAVENS are flip flopping around! Haha. All good buddy. Just a bit confused by what you think as you have changed your statements many times on the matter. Anyways, go Bills. Josh> Lamar 2 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted Wednesday at 09:28 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:28 PM 2 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Haha. All good buddy. Just a bit confused by what you think as you have changed your statements many times on the matter. Anyways, go Bills. Josh> Lamar All 5 points you listed can be true-ish at the same time. That is the exact grey area the Ravens are using to help Lamar save face for being soft. It isnt black/white that he either has a horrible hamstring injury or he's 100% fine. They're using that grey area to maneuver and save face exactly like a few of us predicted. Go Bills! Just now, Augie said: Lamar is better. Reported. 1 1 Quote
Augie Posted Wednesday at 09:30 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:30 PM 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Reported. I thought I could sneak that one by….. 🤷♂️ 1 Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted Wednesday at 09:32 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:32 PM On 9/8/2025 at 12:14 AM, MikePJ76 said: they are both great. No question about it. I would not trade Josh Allen for any player in the league, but that said, how lucky are we to get to watch these 2 graet QB's, along with a couple of others, play on a weekly basis right now. At least 3 "generational" type QB's all playing in the same conference at the same time. I love it! Quote
FireChans Posted Wednesday at 09:45 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:45 PM If Lamar plays and looks okay Sunday, I’m gonna have some side eye tbh. As someone who kinda vehemently disagrees in the quitter narrative that @DrDawkinstein is pushing, it’s honestly a bad look to me if he plays lol 2 Quote
boyst Posted Wednesday at 09:50 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:50 PM 1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said: Ok so you're backtracking then. As I can quote you as you said multiple times he hurt his hamstring. I will take the L if he plays this week. Nothing has changed my friend. I expect the same from you if he doesn't play Hurt ain't injured. Hurt is what everyone gets who plays. Injured means you ain't moving. Soft ass boys get hurt and stop playing. 30 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: In this thread to paraphrase, you have said: 1. He pulled himself out of the game because of a bad situation 2. That you expect him to miss the next game 3. You said he tweaked his hamstring and he's actually hurt 4. Now you said His hamstring isn't pulled. 5. And finally you're hinting like you thinks he plays this weekend Which one is it buddy? As you're just flip flopping your opinion every minute lol The definition of a pulled hamstring isn't what most people think. There are several degrees of it. Even if he doesn't play I think it's all bull#### the team and Lamar being weak. Remember his contract year and before he say out being soft? Dude is charmin. 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted Wednesday at 09:54 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:54 PM 1 minute ago, boyst said: Hurt ain't injured. Hurt is what everyone gets who plays. Injured means you ain't moving. Soft ass boys get hurt and stop playing. Have you guys ever had a pulled hamstring or groin before ? Lol. You literally cannot run. There's a massive difference between playing through a pain tolerance injury like a bone bruise (Greg Rousseau for example) compared to a pulled hamstring or like a strained calf No NFL player is playing a game with a pulled hamstring Quote
boyst Posted Wednesday at 10:02 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:02 PM 5 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Have you guys ever had a pulled hamstring or groin before ? Lol. You literally cannot run. There's a massive difference between playing through a pain tolerance injury like a bone bruise (Greg Rousseau for example) compared to a pulled hamstring or like a strained calf No NFL player is playing a game with a pulled hamstring Yes, I've done it several times. Pulling a muscle is generally a serious as most people think. My wife has a severe tear in her hamstring from trying to heal hook while climbing. That was debilitating and still an issue for her. Lamar is not that injured, he has a tweaked hamstring. I've had everything from muscle adhesions which are the devil, to pull strains and tears. I have had a pectoral tear off my sternum and that didn't shut me down. I've competed pretty highly in athletics and can only go if my experience from others and myself. You speak so firmly that no NFL player is playing with the pulled hamstring and that's just too much to say Quote
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