TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 5 Posted September 5 Another thing: Technically, aren't the folks hosting/streaming the events actually the ones breaking the law (the streamer sites) and NOT the viewers themselves? I believe I have read this somewhere, otherwise 99.9% of us would risk legal repercussions for watching Youtube. 2 Quote
Psautcsk Posted September 5 Posted September 5 24 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Another thing: Technically, aren't the folks hosting/streaming the events actually the ones breaking the law (the streamer sites) and NOT the viewers themselves? I believe I have read this somewhere, otherwise 99.9% of us would risk legal repercussions for watching Youtube. So I don't have to worry about government agents showing up at my house at 2:17 on a Sunday afternoon to haul me away to who knows where because I found a free streamIng site to watch NFL games? Quote
Bruffalo Posted September 5 Posted September 5 Back in the days of analog cable I remember my dad had one of those de-scrambler boxes so he could watch PPV boxing and HBO. Nobody really had any moral dilemmas about this, most people just thought "oh that's nifty". These streaming sites are just the modern day equivalent of the de-scrambler box. The pearl clutching reminds me of those "YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A CAR" PSAs they used to put before movies. For the record, I would 100% download a car instead of pay for one if it was a viable option. I'm not going to shed any tears over mega corporations losing revenue that's basically a rounding error for them when it comes down to it. Better to steal from record profit making companies than your neighbors. 5 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 5 Posted September 5 5 minutes ago, Psautcsk said: So I don't have to worry about government agents showing up at my house at 2:17 on a Sunday afternoon to haul me away to who knows where because I found a free streamIng site to watch NFL games? Not for that reason, no lol 1 Quote
Psautcsk Posted September 5 Posted September 5 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Not for that reason, no lol NFL bite no longer works. I find this to be very sad. Quote
jcamm1966 Posted September 5 Posted September 5 19 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: Back in the days of analog cable I remember my dad had one of those de-scrambler boxes so he could watch PPV boxing and HBO. Nobody really had any moral dilemmas about this, most people just thought "oh that's nifty". These streaming sites are just the modern day equivalent of the de-scrambler box. The pearl clutching reminds me of those "YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A CAR" PSAs they used to put before movies. For the record, I would 100% download a car instead of pay for one if it was a viable option. I'm not going to shed any tears over mega corporations losing revenue that's basically a rounding error for them when it comes down to it. Better to steal from record profit making companies than your neighbors. Quote
BVBILLS Posted September 5 Posted September 5 13 hours ago, The 9 Isles said: You know what’s the most irritating thing about paying for the privilege to watch the NFL?? The absolutely ridiculous amount of commercials. They keep adding more commercials and charging more for the ability to watch them which in turn they sell to advertisers for more money. In all honesty screw the greedy NFL. It’s borderline unwatchable live. That is the truth, brother. NFL was waay too many commercials. Now they will be adding commercials on RedZone too, which will really ruin that as well. Quote
HardyBoy Posted September 5 Posted September 5 On 9/4/2025 at 12:08 AM, HappyDays said: It's worth noting that Sunday Ticket at its most expensive is $522. That's for returning users who add Red Zone. Over a year that averages out to $43.50 per month. That's like two DoorDash orders. I understand there is a very very small percentage of the population to where budgeting an extra $43.50 per month would genuinely be impossible and there are no other realistic budget cuts they could make in their life. I'm not trying to belittle those people. But let's be honest, most of the people in this discussion are not in that tiny minority. Most of them just see an easy way to get out of paying for the service so they take it, because they don't want to inconvenience themselves by making small sacrifices somewhere else in their budget. Oh get out of here with that...$522 can be used to get a really nice used guitar that you could have for the rest of your life and pass down to people. Plus the price of the sunday ticket in the rest of the world is a fraction of what we pay here. Please next tell me how the price of insulin or epi pens are no big deal because it's some much smaller amount when spread over a much longer time span...and ignore the fact that they are gouging people here when they aren't allowed to do it other places. 5 Quote
Big Turk Posted September 5 Posted September 5 Didn't stop me from streaming the game elsewhere as I worked on my computer and used one of the other monitors Quote
The 9 Isles Posted September 5 Posted September 5 (edited) 3 hours ago, BVBILLS said: That is the truth, brother. NFL was waay too many commercials. Now they will be adding commercials on RedZone too, which will really ruin that as well. If they charge you to watch the games then the amount commercials should go down not up. People seem to forget that the commercials paid for the programming by giving money to networks to access their viewers. Now you have to pay and there are more commercials than ever. The whole Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce/KC ménage á trios reeks of corporate and advertising greed. Keep KC as relevant as possible (even though they’re good enough not to need the help) so that TS can be put on parade deep into the postseason. Call it conspiracy if you want but the good fortune that always breaks KC’s way seems really convenient. I think there was a study last year that proved that just having TS in attendance during the season brought in an extra $300 million. Advertising to young women and girls is a whole new revenue stream for the NFL. Sorry that ended up taking a real detour lol. . Edited September 5 by The 9 Isles 1 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted September 5 Posted September 5 21 hours ago, Augie said: That is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read here, and that’s saying something. My 11 year old grandson knows the difference between right and wrong. I’m not going down any rabbit holes you suggest. I think at one point in your life you knew right from wrong without having to twist things around. Look, I don’t really care. I’m not making this out to be a big thing, and no lynchings are in order. But don’t kid yourself. lmao. You have a twisted view of morality. There's no "wrong" here at all. Not even a little. 21 hours ago, Simon said: Aside: Does anybody have any suggestions re: the best way to get major networks (mostly cbs and Fox) through any of the features on a SmartTV? I'm not close enough to any cities to pick them up even with a modern boosted antenna. Find a good IPTV service and for $10/$15 a month you can get access to all the major networks from local markets all around the country/world Quote
BullBuchanan Posted September 5 Posted September 5 (edited) On 9/4/2025 at 1:06 PM, Walking Tall said: The players have LOTS of power. They do, thanks to their union, but not more than the owners. That's the relevant part. Edited September 5 by BullBuchanan 1 Quote
4BillsintheBurgh Posted September 5 Posted September 5 22 hours ago, Simon said: Aside: Does anybody have any suggestions re: the best way to get major networks (mostly cbs and Fox) through any of the features on a SmartTV? I'm not close enough to any cities to pick them up even with a modern boosted antenna. Don't know if you've looked at vseebox or superbox, I believe they provide local OTA stations so after the initial cost you can get local buffalo channels for example. Quote
Amorgus Posted September 6 Posted September 6 (edited) 8 hours ago, The 9 Isles said: If they charge you to watch the games then the amount commercials should go down not up. People seem to forget that the commercials paid for the programming by giving money to networks to access their viewers. Now you have to pay and there are more commercials than ever. The whole Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce/KC ménage á trios reeks of corporate and advertising greed. Keep KC as relevant as possible (even though they’re good enough not to need the help) so that TS can be put on parade deep into the postseason. Call it conspiracy if you want but the good fortune that always breaks KC’s way seems really convenient. I think there was a study last year that proved that just having TS in attendance during the season brought in an extra $300 million. Advertising to young women and girls is a whole new revenue stream for the NFL. Sorry that ended up taking a real detour lol. . My friend's wife got pissy because he didn't watch the Super Bowl so she could see Tay Tay and Travis. All the non-Bills fan women at work were wearing Chiefs crap to work on the Friday before the game as well. I haven't wanted a relationship to end so hard that didn't involve anyone I know in person. Edited September 6 by Amorgus 1 Quote
GaryPinC Posted September 6 Posted September 6 On 9/4/2025 at 5:48 PM, Simon said: So my wife realized she could get a teacher discount for SundayTicket without subscribing to YTTV and she went ahead and did it today. At dinner tonight I gently explained to her with no bias exactly how many games we would not be getting via ST and why, a situation she was not aware of. She is currently one very pissed off little lady. My son and his fiance were here for dinner also and didn't realize how bad it had gotten over the last couple years and were pretty annoyed by the whole situation as well. I'm the kind of dork that pays his taxes in full, rounds up at the register, willingly pays for music by the tune and gives money back to the cashier if he/she makes a mistake. I'm honest to a fault but I no longer have any qualms whatsoever about raising the Jolly Roger on Sundays. Aside: Does anybody have any suggestions re: the best way to get major networks (mostly cbs and Fox) through any of the features on a SmartTV? I'm not close enough to any cities to pick them up even with a modern boosted antenna. I've used Superbox for about 3 years now. https://superboxglobal.com/superbox-channels-list/ It gets major network stations from all over the country, almost all the cable channels including HBO and the likes, tons of different sports channels, Canadian and Mexican channels and even more. Well over 1000 channels. Compact box that plugs into your TV and interfaces well. It mirrors to your TV like it's a cell phone. Upfront cost of $350-400 or so and that is it. I watch Bills games on the Buffalo channels, it has the ST channels but they usually black out sometime in the second half. The broadcast is usually 30-90 seconds behind the actual broadcast and the game can cut out, necessitating restarting the app but way less trouble than a pirated broadcast. The remote doesn't have great range either, hopefully they upgraded that. Overall I am very satisfied with it because I am not a heavy TV watcher and beyond the sports, it is like having a full suite of cable channels that are free now. It's not perfect, but I accept that given the total cost. Non sports channels rarely have any problems and broadcasts in UHD. 1 Quote
Simon Posted September 6 Posted September 6 7 minutes ago, GaryPinC said: I've used Superbox for about 3 years now. This is exactly where I'm leaning right now. I generally only turn on the TV during football season (unless teh Sabres get good.....LOL) so it seems like a good fit. One question from the boss: If the Superbox is tied into the TV in the LR, is there a way that she can watch TV in the bedroom when she lays down at night? Quote
GaryPinC Posted September 6 Posted September 6 (edited) 7 hours ago, Simon said: This is exactly where I'm leaning right now. I generally only turn on the TV during football season (unless teh Sabres get good.....LOL) so it seems like a good fit. One question from the boss: If the Superbox is tied into the TV in the LR, is there a way that she can watch TV in the bedroom when she lays down at night? I've never tried to do it, I just move the box to the other TV. Power plug, HDMI plug and it's good to go. Edit: you have to use their remote through their box so I don't think there's a way to put it on two tvs. Edited September 6 by GaryPinC Quote
HardyBoy Posted September 6 Posted September 6 Oooh...can someone in here please tell me how I should be thankful for LiveNation and Ticketmaster? Quote
Just Jack Posted September 6 Posted September 6 20 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Find a good IPTV service and for $10/$15 a month you can get access to all the major networks from local markets all around the country/world I ended up doing that this offseason but paid for a whole year. Watching through the IP Smarters app on my Roku. Total investment less than $150. 1 Quote
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