McDermott - "Still looking for that other safety"

[HappyDays]

Bad sign for Bishop:

 

 

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

Bad sign for Bishop:

 

 

Or a shot across the bow meant to motivate.

[BillsPride12]

It's mind boggling to me they didn't pull the trigger on Emmamwori in the draft.  Safety is such an important component to a McDermott Defense 

[dorquemada]

Apparently McD is concerned based on the performance in the preseason.  who knew?

[warrior9]

1 minute ago, Low Positive said:

Or a shot across the bow meant to motivate.

Yeah this was more of a "Someone step up" I don't think it means they are out in the market. 

 

Maybe if someone is cut but I don't know where that would come from. 

Just now, dorquemada said:

Apparently McD is concerned based on the performance in the preseason.  who knew?

For depth and role players, yes. 

 

Every team has position battles for a starter somewhere in the league. He is obviously going to evaluate our weakest position. 

[Brand J]

1 minute ago, BillsPride12 said:

It's mind boggling to me they didn't pull the trigger on Emmamwori in the draft.  Safety is such an important component to a McDermott Defense 

Definitely would be more helpful than Hairston at this stage, especially considering how he’s been one of the standouts at Seahawks camp.

[Bockeye]

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/buffalo-bills/news/buffalo-bills-may-pursue-all-pro-safety-after-38-0-loss-bears-justin-simmons-atlanta-falcons-denver-broncos-damar-hamlin-cole-bishop/e2466385d11a2b7d26a06442

 

This would be a great move at this point. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Bockeye

[stlbills13]

Not sure I've ever seen a position battle in a camp have so many guys doing everything they can to NOT win the battle 

[HappyDays]

Just now, warrior9 said:

Yeah this was more of a "Someone step up" I don't think it means they are out in the market. 

 

Yeah I don't expect them to sign someone else. It is going to be Bishop or Hamlin almost certainly. The takeaway is that after an entire offseason where Bishop seemed locked in as the starter, he has fallen out of favor and is now in an open competition. You can't just live with mental mistakes that directly lead to TDs. They've given him every chance and he hasn't seized the opportunity.

[Demongyz]

7 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Bad sign for Bishop:

 

 

It's an opportunity for him to step up and seize the role, let's hope he does it.

[warrior9]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah I don't expect them to sign someone else. It is going to be Bishop or Hamlin almost certainly. The takeaway is that after an entire offseason where Bishop seemed locked in as the starter, he has fallen out of favor and is now in an open competition. You can't just live with mental mistakes that directly lead to TDs. They've given him every chance and he hasn't seized the opportunity.

That and him not being available. He continues to miss valuable reps. However, they took him off the field after a few series so I think he's the guy, still. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah I don't expect them to sign someone else. It is going to be Bishop or Hamlin almost certainly. The takeaway is that after an entire offseason where Bishop seemed locked in as the starter, he has fallen out of favor and is now in an open competition. You can't just live with mental mistakes that directly lead to TDs. They've given him every chance and he hasn't seized the opportunity.

 

I'd say his availability issues probably hurt him more.  In a communication heavy defense you need to be on the field making mistakes so you know how to prevent them in a game.  Missing tons of camp the last 2 seasons is hurting his ability to do that and be trusted as a defensive leader.  

[BlueRed]

It wouldn’t surprise me to see Cam Lewis  get the starting nod for the beginning of the year and then get Cole mixed in down the road. 

[HappyDays]

12 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

It's mind boggling to me they didn't pull the trigger on Emmamwori in the draft.  Safety is such an important component to a McDermott Defense 

 

I think it was a mistake to ever draft one high. These days, and especially in McDermott's scheme, the safety position is mostly about cerebral traits. All else being equal you'd prefer to have a high end athletic talent there of course, but that's not as important as the safety understanding their responsibilities and hitting their landmarks. That's where Hamlin despite his athletic limitations still beats out Bishop.

 

Hyde and Poyer were 5th and 7th round picks respectively. Hyde had a 4.73 RAS score, Poyer had a 5.32. I don't know why this regime decided a top 64 pick with athletic traits but under-developed instincts and technique was the direction we needed to go.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by HappyDays

[Fleezoid]

8 minutes ago, Bockeye said:

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/buffalo-bills/news/buffalo-bills-may-pursue-all-pro-safety-after-38-0-loss-bears-justin-simmons-atlanta-falcons-denver-broncos-damar-hamlin-cole-bishop/e2466385d11a2b7d26a06442

 

This would be a great move at this point. 

 

I agree. They'd be nuts if they don't do it.  A patchwork secondary with Hamlin getting significant playing time is not the answer. 

[Brand J]

I remember in the pre draft process Cole said he used to win most of the battles against Kincaid in practice at Utah. Kincaid concurred. That no doubt endeared Cole to the Bills and they even tried to trade up for him. It’d be a tragedy if the reality of it all was that neither one of these guys are more than an average NFL player, a JAG, given the high investments in both. 

[NickelCity]

I'd love to see what Hancock next to Rapp looks like, but it's a lot to put on a rookie. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

7 minutes ago, Demongyz said:

It's an opportunity for him to step up and seize the role, let's hope he does it.

I don't care WHO does it. I want someone to step up and take the position...not have someone as the starter by default.

 

Bishop, Hamlin, Lewis, heck even Hancock...I want someone to show they are the best. 

[Lost]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

I think it was a mistake to ever draft one high. These days and especially in McDermott's scheme safety is all about cerebral traits. All else being equal you'd prefer to have a high end athletic talent there, but that's not as important as the safety understanding their responsibilities and hitting their landmarks. That's where Hamlin despite his athletic limitations still beats out Bishop.

 

Hyde and Poyer were 5th and 7th round picks respectively. Hyde had a 4.73 RAS score, Poyer had a 5.32. I don't know why this regime decided a top 64 pick with athletic traits but under-developed instincts and technique was the direction we needed to go.

 

I thought that's why they drafted Cole Bishop, because hew as a cerebral guy.

[MJS]

14 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

It's mind boggling to me they didn't pull the trigger on Emmamwori in the draft.  Safety is such an important component to a McDermott Defense 

They drafted one high last year!