BearNorth Posted August 4 Posted August 4 I am wondering if this is the end of the road for the Bills carrying a FB. There were only 12 FB's rostered in the league last season and with Hawes, who is a smart, nasty blocker, do we use the roster spot somewhere else. Quote
billsfan89 Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Here's my prediction QB Josh Allen, Mitch (no way they take Mike White over Mitch who was in Josh's wedding party) RB James Cook, Ray Davis, Ty Johnson (No changes here) FB Reggie Gilliam (Core ST guy niche offensive role he's good) WR Khalil Shakir, Keon Coleman, Joshua Palmer, Elijah Moore, Curtis Samuel (Accurate no changes here) TE Dalton Kincaid, Dawson Knox, Jackson Hawes (Accurate, same top two but with Hawes as a niche role player third stringer) OL Dion Dawkins, David Edwards, Conner McGovern, O'Cyrus Torrence, Spenser Brown, Chase Lundt, Tylan Grable (adding SVPG, Alec Anderson, and Van Denmark team likes to be in the 9-10 range and I don't think they want any of these guys on the PS taking out Lundt as I think they move him off to IR) DL Greg Rousseau, Ed Oliver, DaQuan Jones, Joey Bosa, AJ Epenesa, Landon Jackson, Javon Solomon, TJ Sanders (Adding Deon Walker and Carter to get them to 10 D-Line with Larry O and Hochet suspended) LB'S Terrel Bernard, Matt Milano, Joe Andreeson, Dorian Williams (Adding Shaq Thompson and Spector as they usually like to go with 6 here) CB Christian Benford, Tre'Davious White, Taron Johnson, Dorian Strong, Maxwell Hairston (Adding in Codrington as he is a key return man) S Taylor Rapp, Cole Bishop, Darrick Forrest, Jordan Hancock (adding back in Hamlin, he's simply too solid a backup and he plays special teams decently) ST K Tyler Bass P Brad Robbins LS Reid Ferguson So that's 10 in 2 out and Larry O and Hochet suspended. Swapping White for Mitch as a personality hire and swapping out Lundt for a different backup O-linemen (likely thinking they "redshirt" him for a bit). Overall I think this 1 Quote
Billzgobowlin Posted August 4 Posted August 4 I get this feeling we keep an extra RB if this nonsense with Cook continues. Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 11 Posted August 11 On 8/1/2025 at 10:56 PM, EmotionallyUnstable said: QB - Allen, Trubisky RB - Cook, Davis, Johnson FB - Gilliam WR - Shakir, Coleman, Palmer, Samuel, Moore, Shavers TE - Knox, Kincaid, Hawes OT - Dawkins, Brown, Grable, Van Demark, Lundt OG - Torrence, Edwards, Anderson C - McGovern, Van Pran-Granger (IR) DE - Bosa, Rousseau, Jackson, Solomon, Epinessa DT - Oliver, Jones, Sanders, Walker, Carter LB - Bernard, Milano, Williams, Andreesen, Thompson Spector (Waived/Injured), Ulofoshio (released) CB - Benford, Hairston, White, Johnson, Strong, Codrington (KR/PR) S - Rapp, Bishop, Hamlin, Forrest (released) Lewis, Hancock 3 kicking specialists A couple edits following the last week, the bolded are additions while the underlined have been removed. Trying to forecast what moves they’ll make with Hoecht and Ogun returning is surprisingly difficult IMO barring trade or injury (which they may be counting on). 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted August 11 Posted August 11 (edited) On 8/1/2025 at 2:12 PM, PrimeTime101 said: I picked 45 players. Fill in the Blanks Missing 8 players.. what 8 will you choose. Have Fun! QB Josh Allen, Mike White RB James Cook, Ray Davis, Ty Johnson FB Reggie Gilliam WR Khalil Shakir, Keon Coleman, Joshua Palmer, Elijah Moore, Curtis Samuel TE Dalton Kincaid, Dawson Knox, Jackson Hawes OL Dion Dawkins, David Edwards, Conner McGovern, O'Cyrus Torrence, Spenser Brown, Chase Lundt, Tylan Grable DL Greg Rousseau, Ed Oliver, DaQuan Jones, Joey Bosa, AJ Epenesa, Landon Jackson, Javon Solomon, TJ Sanders LB'S Terrel Bernard, Matt Milano, Joe Andreeson, Dorian Williams CB Christian Benford, Tre'Davious White, Taron Johnson, Dorian Strong, Maxwell Hairston S Taylor Rapp, Cole Bishop, Darrick Forrest, Jordan Hancock ST K Tyler Bass P Brad Robbins LS Reid Ferguson What if we don't agree with your 45. For example, I don't think Mike White is making the team over Mitch and I think Hamlin will make the team as well. You also don't have Thompson making it even though he has popped in camp and McD has been gushing about him. Nothing is ever certain, but you are asking us to pick 8 more as if we agree with your first 45, which I don't agree on some of your choices. Offense: QB - Allen, Trubisky RB - Cook, Davis, Ty FB - Gilliam TE - Kincaid, Knox, Hawes WR - Keon, Palmer, Shakir, Samuel, Shavers OT - Dawkins, Brown, Grable, Van Demark OG - O'Cyrus, Edwards, Anderson C - McGovern, VPG The other day I still had Samuel and Moore as the final 2 WR's and Shavers to the PS. But with how much Shavers has been playing ST, and them really needing someone at the back end of the WR to likely be a ST guy as well, I am starting to think Moore is the odd guy out. I warned everyone not to over react to how he looked in shorts, fast guys always do when no pads on. But all the reports is that he didn't do much in camp since then and Shavers has all the coaches gushing about him and I think he may have just took a leg up in the race for WR5 after the first preseason game. Still won't surprise me to see Shavers to PS and Moore make the team, but I do think Shavers has the momentum right now and Moore would be the guy who would be in more jeopardy than Samuel mostly due to Samuels time in the offense and contract size. Defense DE - Bosa, Rousseau, AJE, Jackson, Solomon DT - Oliver, Jones, Sanders, Walker, Carter LB - Bernard, Milano, Williams, Thompson, Andreesen, Ulofoshio CB - Benford, Hairston, White, Johnson, Strong, Codrington S - Rapp, Bishop, Hamlin, Lewis, Forrest Not Sure why so many left Shaq off their lists, nothing but strong reports coming out of camp on him and I expect to see him on the roster at this point. And as others have said, Hamlin is making the team. Forrest was a toss up for me, and he may not make the team, but he feels like one of the better players in terms of fringe guys, and with how banged up our secondary has gotten I think he does make the team but will be in jeopardy when our suspended guys get back. That being said, would not surprise me to see Dane make it over Forrest instead for ST reasons. Special Teams PK - Bass Punter - Robbins LS - Reid I think Forrest and Ulofoshio would be the odd guys out when our 2 guys from suspension are back. Edited August 11 by Alphadawg7 1 Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 11 Posted August 11 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: What if we don't agree with your 45. For example, I don't think Mike White is making the team over Mitch and I think Hamlin will make the team as well. You also don't have Thompson making it even though he has popped in camp and McD has been gushing about him. Nothing is ever certain, but you are asking us to pick 8 more as if we agree with your first 45, which I don't agree on some of your choices. Offense: QB - Allen, Trubisky RB - Cook, Davis, Ty FB - Gilliam TE - Kincaid, Knox, Hawes WR - Keon, Palmer, Shakir, Samuel, Shavers OT - Dawkins, Brown, Grable, Van Demark OG - O'Cyrus, Edwards, Anderson C - McGovern, VPG Defense DE - Bosa, Rousseau, AJE, Jackson, Solomon DT - Oliver, Jones, Sanders, Walker, Carter LB - Bernard, Milano, Williams, Thompson, Andreesen, Ulofoshio CB - Benford, Hairston, White, Johnson, Strong, Codrington S - Rapp, Bishop, Hamlin, Lewis, Forrest Special Teams PK - Bass Punter - Robbins LS - Reid I think Forrest and Ulofoshio would be the odd guys out when our 2 guys from suspension are back. Interesting take axing Elijah Moore and his fully guaranteed contract, especially with the injury to our start slot in Shakir. I don’t disagree though as Beane has done this before (OJ Howard). 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted August 11 Posted August 11 (edited) 36 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Interesting take axing Elijah Moore and his fully guaranteed contract, especially with the injury to our start slot in Shakir. I don’t disagree though as Beane has done this before (OJ Howard). TBH, up to this point I had Moore making it and was pretty confident in that. But I think Shavers could be slightly edging ahead as he has not only had a great camp, but he really helped himself in the first preseason game and has the higher ST value. Not to mention how fast he came back from injury and made an impact first preseason game. I don't think its a lock by any means, and would not surprise me one bit to see Shavers to PS and Moore stick to the 53. I have been high on Moore since he came into the NFL, so hoping he turns it up here. To be fair, I don't think Samuel has done anything to have "job security" either who keeps getting dinged up. But Samuel has 2 things going for him - experience here already and with Brady even before here and his contract would be harder to move off of via trade/cut. So feels like Moore is the guy whose spot Shavers is directly challenging. Gonna be interesting to watch - I am pulling for Moore who IMHO has much higher upside - but based on what has come out about camp, feels like Shavers is legitimately pushing him for that 5th spot and his added ST value may give him an edge if its a close call. This is going to be an interesting battle to watch IMHO. Edited August 11 by Alphadawg7 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted August 11 Author Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: What if we don't agree with your 45. For example, I don't think Mike White is making the team over Mitch and I think Hamlin will make the team as well. You also don't have Thompson making it even though he has popped in camp and McD has been gushing about him. Nothing is ever certain, but you are asking us to pick 8 more as if we agree with your first 45, which I don't agree on some of your choices. Offense: QB - Allen, Trubisky RB - Cook, Davis, Ty FB - Gilliam TE - Kincaid, Knox, Hawes WR - Keon, Palmer, Shakir, Samuel, Shavers OT - Dawkins, Brown, Grable, Van Demark OG - O'Cyrus, Edwards, Anderson C - McGovern, VPG The other day I still had Samuel and Moore as the final 2 WR's and Shavers to the PS. But with how much Shavers has been playing ST, and them really needing someone at the back end of the WR to likely be a ST guy as well, I am starting to think Moore is the odd guy out. I warned everyone not to over react to how he looked in shorts, fast guys always do when no pads on. But all the reports is that he didn't do much in camp since then and Shavers has all the coaches gushing about him and I think he may have just took a leg up in the race for WR5 after the first preseason game. Still won't surprise me to see Shavers to PS and Moore make the team, but I do think Shavers has the momentum right now and Moore would be the guy who would be in more jeopardy than Samuel mostly due to Samuels time in the offense and contract size. Defense DE - Bosa, Rousseau, AJE, Jackson, Solomon DT - Oliver, Jones, Sanders, Walker, Carter LB - Bernard, Milano, Williams, Thompson, Andreesen, Ulofoshio CB - Benford, Hairston, White, Johnson, Strong, Codrington S - Rapp, Bishop, Hamlin, Lewis, Forrest Not Sure why so many left Shaq off their lists, nothing but strong reports coming out of camp on him and I expect to see him on the roster at this point. And as others have said, Hamlin is making the team. Forrest was a toss up for me, and he may not make the team, but he feels like one of the better players in terms of fringe guys, and with how banged up our secondary has gotten I think he does make the team but will be in jeopardy when our suspended guys get back. That being said, would not surprise me to see Dane make it over Forrest instead for ST reasons. Special Teams PK - Bass Punter - Robbins LS - Reid I think Forrest and Ulofoshio would be the odd guys out when our 2 guys from suspension are back. nice work man. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted August 11 Posted August 11 (edited) 45 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: nice work man. Thanks - I mean its all just us guessing, so no right or wrong answers here. Fun thread though In terms of a couple of the spots I disagreed with your projected list on - I just think Mitch has played more meaningful games than White and has more similarities in style to Josh than White, plus more experience in this locker room. So for White to unseat him I think he would have to decisively beat him out and I am not sure he shown he can do that yet. But still more time left to prove me wrong. Hamlin is a guy they love, so another guy would have to decisively be beaten out to lose his spot, and I don't see anyone pressing him for his spot at this point. Neither are locks though, so anything can still happen, just haven't seen either pressed enough to think they wont make the 53 personally. Edited August 11 by Alphadawg7 1 Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 11 Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: TBH, up to this point I had Moore making it and was pretty confident in that. But I think Shavers could be slightly edging ahead as he has not only had a great camp, but he really helped himself in the first preseason game and has the higher ST value. Not to mention how fast he came back from injury and made an impact first preseason game. I don't think its a lock by any means, and would not surprise me one bit to see Shavers to PS and Moore stick to the 53. I have been high on Moore since he came into the NFL, so hoping he turns it up here. To be fair, I don't think Samuel has done anything to have "job security" either who keeps getting dinged up. But Samuel has 2 things going for him - experience here already and with Brady even before here and his contract would be harder to move off of via trade/cut. So feels like Moore is the guy whose spot Shavers is directly challenging. Gonna be interesting to watch - I am pulling for Moore who IMHO has much higher upside - but based on what has come out about camp, feels like Shavers is legitimately pushing him for that 5th spot and his added ST value may give him an edge if its a close call. This is going to be an interesting battle to watch IMHO. I am not so sure it’s as black and white as Moore vs Shavers. You mentioned that Ulo and Forrest could be the cuts when the suspended guys return, but that would leave us with 12 DL. I have been trying to see a path towards bringing them back and finding a way to stay at 10 DL. A lot of those guys don’t play special teams. So it makes me think: could they roster 6WRs knowing that they may eventually IR Samuel per se bringing them to their usual 5. Forrest would not need to clear waivers, so I could see him back to the PS. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted August 11 Posted August 11 (edited) 14 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I am not so sure it’s as black and white as Moore vs Shavers. You mentioned that Ulo and Forrest could be the cuts when the suspended guys return, but that would leave us with 12 DL. I have been trying to see a path towards bringing them back and finding a way to stay at 10 DL. A lot of those guys don’t play special teams. So it makes me think: could they roster 6WRs knowing that they may eventually IR Samuel per se bringing them to their usual 5. Forrest would not need to clear waivers, so I could see him back to the PS. All fair points, and I am not sold Shavers beats out Moore either. And while I think we only keep 5 WR's, keeping 6 is still a possibility. The problem is I cant see them keeping 6 WRs unless one is an important ST player like a returner which would make more sense to be Shenault, who did show well first preseason game as both a receiver and on ST. But who knows, definitely won't rule out keeping 6 where both Moore and Shavers make it, I just personally think its going to be 5 still. As far as when our 2 suspended guys come back, the issue is who would be out at DL? They are high on Solomon who seems to have taken some nice steps forward so far in camp this offseason according to reports. And they really like Carter and his versatility. All of our rookies are safe from being cut, and so is Bosa, Groot, AJE, Oliver, etc. There is no one there that is just "cuttable" IMHO - so they would have to find a trade dance partner which is certainly possible. We also have some guys on 1 year deals or last year of their deals, so they may not want to move any with next year in mind. Edited August 11 by Alphadawg7 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 11 Posted August 11 On 8/1/2025 at 7:18 PM, PrimeTime101 said: no one wants to play? ok I will start it. The 8 players will be. WR Shavers OL Mike Edwards, Kendrick Green DL Michael Heocht, Alec Anderson LB Bayloh Spector CB Dane Jackson S Jordon Hancock. What say you? On 8/1/2025 at 9:02 PM, Ethan in Cleveland said: 1. Shaq Thompson 2. Cam Lewis 3. Alec Anderson 4. DeWayne Carter 5. SVP Granger 6. Brandon Condrington 7. Baylon Spector 8. Ja'Marcus Ingram Im not sure Lundt beats of VanDemark nor am I convinced White will beat out Trubisky but I agree with your other 43. Will be interesting to see what they do with the PED cheats. Ive not heard a word about either in camp. Given the lack of depth at DT and Bosa history they probably will both make it but I would not be shocked if one or both are just cut even before eligible to return. You're both cutting Deone Walker? 😮 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted August 11 Posted August 11 13 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: All fair points, and I am not sold Shavers beats out Moore either. And while I think we only keep 5 WR's, keeping 6 is still a possibility. The problem is I cant see them keeping 6 WRs unless one is an important ST player like a returner which would make more sense to be Shenault, who did show well first preseason game as both a receiver and on ST. But who knows, definitely won't rule out keeping 6 where both Moore and Shavers make it, I just personally think its going to be 5 still. As far as when our 2 suspended guys come back, the issue is who would be out at DL? They are high on Solomon who seems to have taken some nice steps forward so far in camp this offseason according to reports. And they really like Carter and his versatility. All of our rookies are safe from being cut, and so is Bosa, Groot, AJE, Oliver, etc. There is no one there that is just "cuttable" IMHO - so they would have to find a trade dance partner which is certainly possible. We also have some guys on 1 year deals or last year of their deals, so they may not want to move any with next year in mind. Shenault makes sense as the return guy and emergency wr over Codrington. 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 11 Posted August 11 1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said: You're both cutting Deone Walker? 😮 No. Wasn't Walker on his initial 45? If not then my error. Yes he makes the final 53 easy. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 11 Posted August 11 (edited) On 8/1/2025 at 5:12 PM, PrimeTime101 said: I picked 45 players. Fill in the Blanks Missing 8 players.. what 8 will you choose. Have Fun! QB Josh Allen, Mike White RB James Cook, Ray Davis, Ty Johnson FB Reggie Gilliam WR Khalil Shakir, Keon Coleman, Joshua Palmer, Elijah Moore, Curtis Samuel TE Dalton Kincaid, Dawson Knox, Jackson Hawes OL Dion Dawkins, David Edwards, Conner McGovern, O'Cyrus Torrence, Spenser Brown, Chase Lundt, Tylan Grable DL Greg Rousseau, Ed Oliver, DaQuan Jones, Joey Bosa, AJ Epenesa, Landon Jackson, Javon Solomon, TJ Sanders LB'S Terrel Bernard, Matt Milano, Joe Andreeson, Dorian Williams CB Christian Benford, Tre'Davious White, Taron Johnson, Dorian Strong, Maxwell Hairston S Taylor Rapp, Cole Bishop, Darrick Forrest, Jordan Hancock ST K Tyler Bass P Brad Robbins LS Reid Ferguson I disagree with a number of things about your 45. I think there's people on this list that aren't likely to make it and people off of it who are somewhere between a lock or very close to it: - I don't think Mike White is anything close to locked in as QB2. I've said this before, there's no guaranteed money with White and there is with Trubisky. So for White to win, he has to so clearly be the better option that they're willing to pay about 2m in Dead Money for Trubisky and the 1.3m that isn't guaranteed for White on top of it. I think if it's even remotely close (which it is), they're going to go with Trubisky bc that's the cheaper option. I also think that him being friends with Josh also plays a role. - I don't think Elijah Moore is a lock either. I know we all got enamored with his off-season videos and his speed. But reportedly, he hasn't been very impressive in Camp. Meanwhile, Tyrell Shavers has been undeniable. I think on my list I'll be keeping both. But if I were locking in 5 like your list, it would be Shavers in and Moore out. - Forrest... Forrest to me is everyone's "I don't want Damar Hamlin here and Forrest is the competition, so he's in". I haven't heard anything about him impressing and he's not running above Hamlin in practice or the games. He's really shown or done nothing to say he should be on the 53 besides he isn't Damar Hamlin. I've said it once, I'll say it a million times, I don't think there's a bigger disconnect in player evaluation than with Hamlin. To the fans, he's terrible and he shouldn't be here. To the brass, he's a guy that they keep bringing him back and putting him in big roles. I'll honestly believe it when I see it that they feel like he can't even be a Backup for this team given his role last year. - And obviously, Deone Walker is making this team. I'm assuming you just brain farted leaving him off the list. We've never outright cut even a 5th Rounder the same year we Drafted them - let alone a 4th Rounder like Walker. All that said, here's my feeling on the roster as of today: QB: Josh Allen #17 Mitch Trubusky #11 RB: James Cook III #4 Ray Davis #22 Ty Johnson #26 - Reggie Gilliam #41 WR: Khalil Shakir #10 Joshua Palmer #5 Keon Coleman #0 Curtis Samuel #1 Elijah Moore #18 Tyrell Shavers #80 TE: Dalton Kincaid #86 Dawson Knox #88 Jackson Hawes #85 OL: Dion Dawkins #73 David Edwards #76 Connor McGovern #66 O'Cyrus Torrence #64 Spencer Brown #79 - Tylan Grable #68 Ryan Van Demark #74 Alec Anderson #70 Chase Lundt #77 DE: Joey Bosa #97 Greg Rousseau #50 AJ Epenesa #57 Landon Jackson #94 Javon Solomon #56 DT: Ed Oliver #91 Daquan Jones #92 T.J. Sanders #98 Dewayne Carter #90 Deone Walker #96 LB: Matt Milano #58 Terrel Bernard #8 Dorian Williams #42 Shaq Thompson #45 Joe Andreessen #44 CB: Christian Benford #47 Maxwell Hairston #31 Taron Johnson #7 (Nickel) Tre'Davious White #27 Dorian Strong #43 Brandon Codrington #29 (KR/PR) S: Taylor Rapp #9 Cole Bishop #24 Damar Hamlin #3 Jordan Hancock #37 (Nickel/Safety) Cam Lewis #39 (Nickel/Safety) ST: Tyler Bass #2 Reid Ferguson #69 Brad Robbins #40 Roster Exempt: DE Michael Hoecht #55 (Suspended) DT Larry Ogunjobi #99 (Suspended) C Sedrick Van Pran-Granger #62 (PUP) Edited August 12 by BillsFanForever19 2 2 Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 11 Posted August 11 20 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I disagree with a number of things about your 45. I think there's people on this list that aren't likely to make it and people off of it who are somewhere between a lock or very close to it: - I don't think Mike White is anything close to locked in as QB2. I've said this before, there's no guaranteed money with White and there is with Trubisky. So for White to win, he has to so clearly be the better option that they're willing to pay about 2m in Dead Money for Trubisky and the 1.3m for White. I think if it's even remotely close (which it is), they're going to go with Trubisky bc that's the cheaper option. I also think that him being friends with Josh also plays a role. - I don't think Elijah Moore is a lock either. I know we all got enamored with his off-season videos and his speed. But reportedly, he hasn't been very impressive in Camp. Meanwhile, Tyrell Shavers has been undeniable. I think on my list I'll be keeping both. But if I were locking in 5 like your list, it would be Shavers in and Moore out. - Forrest... Forrest to me is just a "I don't want Damar Hamlin here and Forrest is the competition, so he's in". I haven't heard anything about him impressing and he's not running above Hamlin in practice or the games. I've said it once, I'll say it a million times, I don't think there's a bigger disconnect in player evaluation than with Hamlin. To the fans, he's terrible and he shouldn't be here. To the brass, he's a guy that they keep bringing him back and putting him in big roles. I'll honestly believe it when I see it that they feel like he can't even be a Backup for this team given his role last year. - And obviously, Deone Walker is making this team. I'm assuming you just brain farted leaving him off the list. We've never outright cut even a 5th Rounder the same year we Drafted them - let alone a 4th Rounder like Walker. All that said, here's my feeling on the roster as of today: QB: Josh Allen #17 Mitch Trubusky #11 RB: James Cook III #4 Ray Davis #22 Ty Johnson #26 - Reggie Gilliam #41 WR: Khalil Shakir #10 Joshua Palmer #5 Keon Coleman #0 Curtis Samuel #1 Elijah Moore #18 Tyrell Shavers #80 TE: Dalton Kincaid #86 Dawson Knox #88 Jackson Hawes #85 OL: Dion Dawkins #73 David Edwards #76 Connor McGovern #66 O'Cyrus Torrence #64 Spencer Brown #79 - Tylan Grable #68 Ryan Van Demark #74 Alec Anderson #70 Chase Lundt #77 DE: Joey Bosa #97 Greg Rousseau #50 AJ Epenesa #57 Landon Jackson #94 Javon Solomon #56 DT: Ed Oliver #91 Daquan Jones #92 T.J. Sanders #98 Dewayne Carter #90 Deone Walker #96 LB: Matt Milano #58 Terrel Bernard #8 Dorian Williams #42 Shaq Thompson #45 Joe Andreessen #44 CB: Christian Benford #47 Maxwell Hairston #31 Taron Johnson #7 (Nickel) Tre'Davious White #27 Dorian Strong #43 Brandon Codrington #29 (KR/PR) S: Taylor Rapp #9 Cole Bishop #24 Damar Hamlin #3 Jordan Hancock #37 (Nickel/Safety) Cam Lewis #39 (Nickel/Safety) ST: Tyler Bass #2 Reid Ferguson #69 Brad Robbins #40 Roster Exempt: DE Michael Hoecht #55 (Suspended) DT Larry Ogunjobi #99 (Suspended) C Sedrick Van Pran-Granger #62 (PUP) Very nice, thanks for sharing. How do you foresee them bringing back two DL, totaling 12 with the initial 10 on the 53? There are not very waivable players such in years past. I imagine they are banking on a potential injury, or will be trying to move someone at the position either before Week 1 or when they are eligible to return from sus. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) 4 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Very nice, thanks for sharing. How do you foresee them bringing back two DL, totaling 12 with the initial 10 on the 53? There are not very waivable players such in years past. I imagine they are banking on a potential injury, or will be trying to move someone at the position either before Week 1 or when they are eligible to return from sus. The answer is simple - you cross that bridge when you come to it. By Week 8 (the 6 Week suspension followed by a Week 7 Bye), it's entirely possible (if not likely) that we'll have 2 injuries that will require PUP or IR and they can be seamlessly slid on to the 53. Injuries may even come along the DL. If we're lucky enough that there were no injuries, then difficult decisions will have to be made. But again, that's not something Beane has to worry about until the time comes. One thing you absolutely don't do is make room for them before they're available. Say you trade Epenesa for example. Well now you're down to Bosa, Rousseau, Jackson, and Solomon. And if there's a single injury before Week 8 - whoo boy. You're in rough shape. Especially with how much we rotate along the DL, the injury history of Bosa, and Jackson looking like he needs time to get his sea legs under him - that would be a terrible decision. Maybe that's something you think about Week 8 if all of the DE's were to stay healthy. But absolutely not before then. Edited August 12 by BillsFanForever19 2 Quote
ganesh Posted August 12 Posted August 12 4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Thanks - I mean its all just us guessing, so no right or wrong answers here. Fun thread though In terms of a couple of the spots I disagreed with your projected list on - I just think Mitch has played more meaningful games than White and has more similarities in style to Josh than White, plus more experience in this locker room. So for White to unseat him I think he would have to decisively beat him out and I am not sure he shown he can do that yet. But still more time left to prove me wrong. Hamlin is a guy they love, so another guy would have to decisively be beaten out to lose his spot, and I don't see anyone pressing him for his spot at this point. Neither are locks though, so anything can still happen, just haven't seen either pressed enough to think they wont make the 53 personally. Hancock is definitely going to e in the mix. Similarly, Kerry Couch had a good day at the office and came on as 1st change I am not sure if Codrington makes it. He cannot play CB. I think Shenault had a good game with the returns and may be a serviceable WR Carter may sink or swim when Ogunjobie comes back from injury. If Carter plays well in the. 1st six then Ogunjobie may be gone Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) 27 minutes ago, ganesh said: I am not sure if Codrington makes it. He cannot play CB. I think Shenault had a good game with the returns and may be a serviceable WR I think there's merit in wondering if Shenault offers more than Codrington. But it doesn't change the fact that Codrington has been above Shenault and was the main return man in the last game. Until we see that changing in the Pre-Season, I don't think it's going to happen. Edited August 12 by BillsFanForever19 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted August 12 Author Posted August 12 4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: You're both cutting Deone Walker? 😮 uh not anymore im not lol. 2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I disagree with a number of things about your 45. I think there's people on this list that aren't likely to make it and people off of it who are somewhere between a lock or very close to it: - I don't think Mike White is anything close to locked in as QB2. I've said this before, there's no guaranteed money with White and there is with Trubisky. So for White to win, he has to so clearly be the better option that they're willing to pay about 2m in Dead Money for Trubisky and the 1.3m for White. I think if it's even remotely close (which it is), they're going to go with Trubisky bc that's the cheaper option. I also think that him being friends with Josh also plays a role. - I don't think Elijah Moore is a lock either. I know we all got enamored with his off-season videos and his speed. But reportedly, he hasn't been very impressive in Camp. Meanwhile, Tyrell Shavers has been undeniable. I think on my list I'll be keeping both. But if I were locking in 5 like your list, it would be Shavers in and Moore out. - Forrest... Forrest to me is just a "I don't want Damar Hamlin here and Forrest is the competition, so he's in". I haven't heard anything about him impressing and he's not running above Hamlin in practice or the games. I've said it once, I'll say it a million times, I don't think there's a bigger disconnect in player evaluation than with Hamlin. To the fans, he's terrible and he shouldn't be here. To the brass, he's a guy that they keep bringing him back and putting him in big roles. I'll honestly believe it when I see it that they feel like he can't even be a Backup for this team given his role last year. - And obviously, Deone Walker is making this team. I'm assuming you just brain farted leaving him off the list. We've never outright cut even a 5th Rounder the same year we Drafted them - let alone a 4th Rounder like Walker. All that said, here's my feeling on the roster as of today: QB: Josh Allen #17 Mitch Trubusky #11 RB: James Cook III #4 Ray Davis #22 Ty Johnson #26 - Reggie Gilliam #41 WR: Khalil Shakir #10 Joshua Palmer #5 Keon Coleman #0 Curtis Samuel #1 Elijah Moore #18 Tyrell Shavers #80 TE: Dalton Kincaid #86 Dawson Knox #88 Jackson Hawes #85 OL: Dion Dawkins #73 David Edwards #76 Connor McGovern #66 O'Cyrus Torrence #64 Spencer Brown #79 - Tylan Grable #68 Ryan Van Demark #74 Alec Anderson #70 Chase Lundt #77 DE: Joey Bosa #97 Greg Rousseau #50 AJ Epenesa #57 Landon Jackson #94 Javon Solomon #56 DT: Ed Oliver #91 Daquan Jones #92 T.J. Sanders #98 Dewayne Carter #90 Deone Walker #96 LB: Matt Milano #58 Terrel Bernard #8 Dorian Williams #42 Shaq Thompson #45 Joe Andreessen #44 CB: Christian Benford #47 Maxwell Hairston #31 Taron Johnson #7 (Nickel) Tre'Davious White #27 Dorian Strong #43 Brandon Codrington #29 (KR/PR) S: Taylor Rapp #9 Cole Bishop #24 Damar Hamlin #3 Jordan Hancock #37 (Nickel/Safety) Cam Lewis #39 (Nickel/Safety) ST: Tyler Bass #2 Reid Ferguson #69 Brad Robbins #40 Roster Exempt: DE Michael Hoecht #55 (Suspended) DT Larry Ogunjobi #99 (Suspended) C Sedrick Van Pran-Granger #62 (PUP) really great writeup. we can agree to disagree on some things but ty for putting the work in it. Respect. 1 1 Quote
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