Report: Micah Parsons requests a trade

[MAJBobby]

4 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

I am aware, but do you want to maneuver us into a cap mess by pushing everything to the future.  One of the reasons weve done so well, is Beane has been shrewd to extend early, and in the end get breaks, vs. Jerrah who waits til the last minute, and now he’s screwed on the Parsons extension.

Does it get me the best chance for Multiple Championships - Yep. 
 

so my answer is ABSOLUTELY kick those cans 

2 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

I agree our defense has been the reason why the Bills can't get passed KC.  No argument there.  We have been plagued by injuries to key players...and you do wonder if that wouldn't have made a differene if the Bills went into the last two playoff seasons healthy.   I also wonder sometimes if it's our scheme defensively.  We rotate our D lineman so much...and you do wonder, if we would have double-digit sacks for players if they played  more snaps.  I think defensive lineman need to get into a rhythm with their pass rush like QBs need to get into a rhythm passing the football.

Which pass rushers were they missing?  Any?  So it wasn’t injuries on why they could not get pressure 

[jkeerie]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

Does it get me the best chance for Multiple Championships - Yep. 
 

so my answer is ABSOLUTELY kick those cans 

Which pass rushers were they missing?  Any?  So it wasn’t injuries on why they could not get pressure 

The pass rushers didn't have time to get two steps let alone generate any kind of a pass rush.  Our secondary was riddled and so porous Stevie Wonder could have completed passes against the Bills!  

[MAJBobby]

2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

 

It’s really not. If everything was feasible then he wouldn’t be having any problems in Dallas.  That said, I’d give up a lot for an Edge of Parsons’ caliber, age and impact. Tho I have major concerns about him in the Bills locker room. Still, a pass rusher like him would make a bigger impact on this team than any current player, save one. But financially it is almost impossible this season. The Bills have already decided where to spend their money and cap space and even with restructuring Dawkins and Knox they will just have enough space to make it through the season. Even if they were to lower his 2025 cap hit from the $24M it is now with an extension, it would still mean some drastic moves like trading Dawkins and/or Knox instead of restructuring them. Possibly cutting Milano as well. There really aren’t many any other places to get the space at this point. A number of posters here think the cap is meaningless. It’s not. We see it’s impact on some teams every season. 

 

That doesn’t even address the cash aspect. the Bills are second in cash spend this season, only about $250k from the top spot. I doubt the Bills are going to drop another huge chunk of cash on a signing bonus for Parsons.

Again more cap things. 
 

d Jones - do we not have multiple young players here saves 10M 

 

Milano - add to trade saves 12M

 

heck Samuels 

 

there are players that you can Move on from to get the space to account for the 5th year option. 

 

OR like all trades you work the Extension out first and now you are fitting single digits this year not 25M. 

Just now, jkeerie said:

The pass rushers didn't have time to get two steps let alone generate any kind of a pass rush.  Our secondary was riddled and so porous Stevie Wonder could have completed passes against the Bills!  

Ahhh ok. So the year before? Secondary issues as well?  What about year before that?  Or the year before that? 

[BarleyNY]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

Again more cap things. 
 

d Jones - do we not have multiple young players here saves 10M 

 

Milano - add to trade saves 12M

 

heck Samuels 

 

there are players that you can Move on from to get the space to account for the 5th year option. 

 

OR like all trades you work the Extension out first and now you are fitting single digits this year not 25M. 

 

You are looking at those players’ cap hits for 2025 and not including their dead cap hits if cut or traded. 

[MAJBobby]

Just now, BarleyNY said:

 

You are looking at those players’ cap hits for 2025 and not including their dead cap hits if cut or traded. 

Jones 1 year left

Milano 1 year Left 

 

again I DONT CARE about dead money. Go be Philly and stack superstars and win trophies 

[BarleyNY]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

Jones 1 year left

Milano 1 year Left 

 

again I DONT CARE about dead money. Go be Philly and stack superstars and win trophies 

dead money counts on our cap

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, BarleyNY said:

dead money counts on our cap

And the Dead money still saves cap money to make the move. Hence why I DONT CARE. 

[RoscoeParrish]

15 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

I am aware, but do you want to maneuver us into a cap mess by pushing everything to the future.  One of the reasons weve done so well, is Beane has been shrewd to extend early, and in the end get breaks, vs. Jerrah who waits til the last minute, and now he’s screwed on the Parsons extension.

We had the largest dead cap hit in NFL history just 1 season prior. We whiffed on Von Miller. We are still fine.

 

I think the fears of “cap mess” are greatly exaggerated imo.

[BarleyNY]

21 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

And the Dead money still saves cap money to make the move. Hence why I DONT CARE. 

We would save less than $400k in cap space this season if we cut Milano. That would be less than even league minimum salary for a replacement. So I’d say you SHOULD care about that if you’re looking to create cap space. 

Edited August 3 by BarleyNY

[MAJBobby]

2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

We would save less than $400k in cap space this season if we cut Milano. That would be less than even league minimum salary for a replacement. So I’d say you SHOULD about that if you’re looking to create cap space. 

Where did I say Cut Milano?  Include him in the trade get the 3M. Space. But I get it let’s continue to roll out a plan that doesn’t work. And at the end of the year we will be once again asking where was the pass rush 

[Brand J]

35 minutes ago, Simon said:

He's going to be a FA in 5 months.

Trading multiple firsts for him is goofy, imo.

Parsons will never hit open free agency, so if a team wants to acquire him it’d have to be through trade. 

[Sierra Foothills]

21 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

One of the reasons weve done so well, is Beane has been shrewd to extend early, and in the end get breaks, vs. Jerrah who waits til the last minute, and now he’s screwed on the Parsons extension.

 

Yes, there's no question that the Bills are a better run organization than are the Cowboys.

 

13 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

The pass rushers didn't have time to get two steps let alone generate any kind of a pass rush.  Our secondary was riddled and so porous Stevie Wonder could have completed passes against the Bills!  

 

You've made some strong posts in this topic but I wish you wouldn't play the Stevie Wonder card.

 

Imagine if he was a Bills fan and read this forum and he read your post... how that would make him feel???

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

12 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

I don’t think we have the money, even if Dallas would accept the trade..

 

I like the idea of three 1st round prospects on cost controlled deals though more than anything..

Allen will be 32 when that 3rd first round pick is drafted. Must sell out to win now. We have no idea how his body will hold up after he turns 30.

Parsons puts them over the top just like Cornelius Bennett did.

Think about, is Parsons worth Hairston, Kincaid, and Coleman?? He's worth far more than those three players. 

[Special K]

This is all interesting info, but what does the Circle the Wagons podcast think????😁

Edited August 2 by Special K

[Mikie2times]

29 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

So you would rather not make the SB because defense once again cannot get pressure in playoffs. 
 

sorry when I see Philly stacking superstars. Baltimore stacking superstars. And here are the Bills with everything on Josh. 

Except he isn’t. Three years of cost control with Dallas. Jerry isn’t letting him walk. 

I am smart enough to know it does equate to a 2nd at his age and clears 12M (to fit the 5th year option of Parsons). 
 

I am also smart enough to know the Defnede has been the issue with getting over the hump not the offense. 

Smart enough to not spell defense correctly 😂

 

Look, it’s a stupid trade off. We could get an all pro year out of him. But his perceived value is very down. Find another path, I’m all for it. Including multiple first rounders. 

[Alphadawg7]

As I have stated in every post in this thread, I still very much doubt he leaves Dallas.  Especially with Jerry's ego, he isn't going to like trading him when it wasn't "his" idea now that Parsons has gone public about it.  

 

But lets assume it really isn't gonna get done there and they do trade him (and honestly, they should as that roster isn't winning anything any time soon, load up on new assets to retool the team).  Bills feel unlikely given the cap impact, however, the one thing I will say is never doubt Beane.  If there is a GM in football that can make the cap work, its him.  And he has proven to make moves when he wants to make the move.  

 

I also don't feel like he is a "must" add player anymore - where I did feel that way before the draft.  I really like what we did this offseason up front, I like what I am hearing about 2nd year guys like Solomon, etc.  Obviously nothing is proven on the field yet for the young guys or what Bosa can be this year, but I think our front 7 is a lot better today than it was the day the season ended.  And I think our secondary is going to be better too which also helps the front guys as well.

 

But hey, if we can get Parsons, then damn I would be excited to say the least.  I still think its very unlikely they trade him, and unlikely that if they do we can offer the best package.  

Edited August 2 by Alphadawg7

[BarleyNY]

6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Where did I say Cut Milano?  Include him in the trade get the 3M. Space. But I get it let’s continue to roll out a plan that doesn’t work. And at the end of the year we will be once again asking where was the pass rush 

 

I actually agree with you that the Bills need to make a move like this. The problem is that they already chose a different path this season and can no longer realistically make something like this work. But talk to me next offseason when they can make it work. I’ll be down for it.

 

I don’t think Parsons gets moved before then anyway. I expect Jerry to make him play this season and then tag him next so he can trade him. That way he’ll eke out all the “cheap” seasons from him and have a chance to replace him in FA or the draft. 

[jkeerie]

42 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Ahhh ok. So the year before? Secondary issues as well?  What about year before that?  Or the year before that? 

Year before that, we lost DBs and LBs.

 

The 13 second game our DBs actually cost us with poor play.

 

And speaking of playoffs...how many SBs has Micah Parsons gotten the Cowboys to?  

25 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

Yes, there's no question that the Bills are a better run organization than are the Cowboys.

 

 

You've made some strong posts in this topic but I wish you wouldn't play the Stevie Wonder card.

 

Imagine if he was a Bills fan and read this forum and he read your post... how that would make him feel???

 

You are correct.  It was insensitive of me.  I apologize.😉

Edited August 2 by jkeerie

[HOUSE]

I will give up Mitch Trubisky and a 4th

[Sierra Foothills]

33 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I am also smart enough to know the Defnede has been the issue with getting over the hump not the offense. 

 

You're wrong.

 

The Bills didn't even re-sign Defnede after the 2023 season... his 3rd season on the practice squad.

 

Per the rules governing the NFL's International Pathway Program (IPP), Defnede no longer qualified for the program and he's not even in the league anymore.

 

Last I heard he had returned to his native Mauritania and was pursuing a degree in water table management.

 

1 minute ago, HOUSE said:

I will give up Mitch Trubisky and a 4th