Eagles survey season ticket holders about building a new domed stadium.

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

it’s actually the way of the past too. No NFL team has been building open air stadiums for the last 15 years. Just a total waste of money and sub par fan and player experience. Terrible investment by Buffalo.

Wax on

[SCBills]

Buffalo is never hosting a Final Four.  
 

Maybe a Sweet 16 or something like that if we went dome .. but it makes sense for Philly, who has the infrastructure to support that, to take a sporting event like that into account. 
 

Seems like every other year the Final Four is in a domed football stadium in the South or Lucas Oil in Indy. 

[HOUSE]

COME ON, BE A MAN....

Build an open air, catch pneumonia than die. I will put a picture of John Wayne on your grave.

 

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Edited July 26 by HOUSE

[chris heff]

2 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said:

It’s football. You play in the elements. When did everyone get so soft?

Nobody got soft. The reason football has been played in the elements is because the season used to end in November for high school and college. The NFL ended in December, now it is February. 

[Breakout Squad]

2 minutes ago, chris heff said:

Nobody got soft. The reason football has been played in the elements is because the season used to end in November for high school and college. The NFL ended in December, now it is February. 

I personally love that Bills football will be outdoors for decades to come. Beautiful September and October fall games and classic winter matchups. The 49ers snow game was incredible.

 

I know I won’t change anyone’s opinion or anything. Not calling anyone soft individually. I just think outdoor football is better.

[Draconator]

I have to say, it was really nice to sit inside a dome when the Bills played Detroit last year. Ford Field is a really nice stadium. But I think the design of the new stadium will mitigate the elements as much as possible to give an equally pleasurable experience in Buffalo. 

[chris heff]

1 minute ago, Breakout Squad said:

I personally love that Bills football will be outdoors for decades to come. Beautiful September and October fall games and classic winter matchups. The 49ers snow game was incredible.

 

I know I won’t change anyone’s opinion or anything. Not calling anyone soft individually. I just think outdoor football is better.

You understand that bad weather caused the Bills to lose two home games, they had to go play in Detroit. What is that? A four hour drive?  The compromise is a retractable dome, play in the elements unless you can’t.

[uticaclub]

2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

it’s actually the way of the past too. No NFL team has been building open air stadiums for the last 15 years. Just a total waste of money and sub par fan and player experience. Terrible investment by Buffalo.

MetLife Stadium in New Jersey

[Augie]

5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

The goal is to land a Super Bowl and Final Four. By the way the Linc is only 21 years old.

 

Eagles survey season-ticket holders regarding new stadium - NBC Sports https://share.google/ivjbhs8sjggKoSIMy

 

I’d be very curious to see how the survey turns out. What’s the proposed split on expenses?  Do the taxpayers want to pay for this? How many want to throw in the extra billion for a dome? People who say we should have a dome in Buffalo (which I would actually appreciate as an old guy who hates the cold) have to consider how much extra they would be willing to pay personally in PSL and ticket costs. What is the guy sitting next to them willing to tolerate? This isn’t a “right or wrong” issue to me, just a matter of personal preference. 

 

 

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Edited July 26 by Augie

[Breakout Squad]

15 minutes ago, chris heff said:

You understand that bad weather caused the Bills to lose two home games, they had to go play in Detroit. What is that? A four hour drive?  The compromise is a retractable dome, play in the elements unless you can’t.

You do understand those games couldn’t have been played because of the county being in a state of emergency?

[brianthomas]

If sitting outside in an open air stadium is what you deem being macho, then we have vastly different definitions of what being macho is. 

 

But for me this issue has always been about practicality. How practical is it for an economically depressed area to invest a couple billion into a building that will only be used what, 12 times a year? When our area could use that funding for infrastructure improvements, hospital & school improvements, etc as that list can go on & on.

I will likely always view this stadium deal as a failure of imagination & civic planning, as a lost opportunity to create an actual destination that generates real revenues for our community 12 months a year. As opposed to now where its just on game days during the season. Part of this is due to it not having a roof of some sort, another due to the lack of a plan to create more of a destination with the stadium & surrounding facilities at large, that would bring more of a return on this multi-billion investment. We had an opportunity to make something special that could truly impact our community & in the end we built a stadium with less seats next to the old one. It all just seems like small thinking at a premium price. 

[chris heff]

4 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said:

You do understand those games couldn’t have been played because of the county being in a state of emergency?

This is a legitimate question, if there had been a dome in Buffalo, do you think those games would have still been played in Detroit?

[zow2]

May not seem like it but compared to Buffalo. Philly is a world class city.  Lots of corporate HQ’s, big population, Big downtown, complete with skyscrapers, financial hub, tons of hotel rooms, large international airport.  Yes if they build a nice new dome stadium they will get a SB eventually and some huge events there.  Buffalo never would have.

[Breakout Squad]

8 minutes ago, chris heff said:

This is a legitimate question, if there had been a dome in Buffalo, do you think those games would have still been played in Detroit?

Yes. With a travel ban officials and necessary personnel can’t get to the stadium. Police and EMS are out assisting people and can’t justify using them at the stadium. Not to mention getting the players there safely. Lots going on when a blizzard hits. 

[Jalan81]

56 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said:

It’s football. You play in the elements. When did everyone get so soft?

After I went to the Bills Dolphins heat game a few seasons ago. I will never go there for a day game again unless it’s December🤦‍♂️

[GroteStreet]

I live in Dallas and went to the old cowboys stadium.  It was loud, rowdy, and a true home field advantage.  The new domed stadium reminds me of an airport terminal and for the cowboys it is almost like a neutral field.

[SCBills]

36 minutes ago, chris heff said:

You understand that bad weather caused the Bills to lose two home games, they had to go play in Detroit. What is that? A four hour drive?  The compromise is a retractable dome, play in the elements unless you can’t.

Even with a Dome, would we have played those games at home?

 

Players, coaches, tv crews, other team etc all need to be able to get to the stadium.  Nevermind the fact the fans may or may not be under travel restrictions. 
 

Bigger worry for me is a game like we had years back, red uniforms in a blizzard.   Super cool when your team isn’t playing in it.. not so much if we’re in a Super Bowl push, playing for seeding and trying to avoid serious injuries. 

[chris heff]

1 minute ago, GroteStreet said:

I live in Dallas and went to the old cowboys stadium.  It was loud, rowdy, and a true home field advantage.  The new domed stadium reminds me of an airport terminal and for the cowboys it is almost like a neutral field.

But there is pole dancing? So there’s that.

[Sierra Foothills]

Probably the reason other metros are building domed stadiums is because the expense is justified.

 

Erie County is the 60th most populous county in the United States.

 

Buffalo is the 82nd largest city.

 

Buffalo is smaller than such "major cities" as Bakersfield and Fresno... Omaha and Corpus Christi... Buffalo has about the same population as Fort Wayne and is barely bigger than Toledo, Ohio.

 

There were how many concerts in Highmark last year? I seriously doubt that there are any stadium-caliber performers who are going to want to come to Buffalo in December to play a concert... even if it's in a domed stadium.

 

I'd bet that when you crunch the numbers and compare the added cost of a domed stadium versus the additional revenues possible from non-NFL events, that the numbers don't pencil out. Comparatively, the Kansas City metro area is over 2 million people. The Chiefs will get a domed stadium if that's what they want.

 

And I'm sure these numbers are well-known to those whose business it is to know them.

 

[BuffBillsForLife]

2 hours ago, HaldimandBills said:

 

Nope. Not even close. Just not someone whose built his life around creature comforts of sitting and TV. Nothing macho about it. Which is what's so depressing. People have really let themselves slip into basic comforts where they don't have a shred of basic resiliency. If watching an NFL game outdoors is becoming too much for people I'd really question where we are heading as a society. 

 

The fact you went to macho tough guy is another indicator of how far we are slipping as a society. It's not macho to want to watch a game outdoors. It's actually a very normal thing. If you're elderly and perfer a Dome I understand that completely. If you're not, you are likely a sit in air conditioning during the summer and stay indoors during the winter type of person. Is what it is. 

Great parody post!