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Posted
37 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Our WR is a bunch of #2's and below.  But collectively they put up damn good numbers.

 

But do they, really?

Posted
5 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

When did we lose all our receivers from last years top rated offense? 

 

In the AFC CG.*  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*cue the "but we scored 29 points that game crowd"  

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

I said it before and I’ll say it again … if our WR roster was one of our main competitors, y’all be filled with guffaws and snide remarks. 


 

Oh, you mean like the Patriots did when they were winning all kinds of Super Bowls?

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Posted
54 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Nah. He sucks. People still waiting for the light to go on with him will be waiting forever. 

Ok give me the 5depth guys who would start over him lol

Posted
57 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Ok give me the 5depth guys who would start over him lol

 

So Shakir definitely would, Palmer definitely would and Curtis Samuel when on the same team for two years clearly out produced him and then even last year when both moved on and had clunky landings in new spots out produced him again. So those 3 are a given. Elijah Moore I could take an argument on because there is a reason he is bouncing around the league but production wise has more in the book. And Keon I could take an argument on too, I didn't like him or Dotson particularly coming out but his rookie season he had more yards than Dotson has ever managed. So yea, I think the Bills 1-5 would probably all be the 3 in Philly. Wide Receiver is actually one position Howie Roseman has not drafted particularly well aside from Devonta Smith who was a slam dunk (although I think they traded up a spot or two to get him so credit for that). 

Posted
25 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

So Shakir definitely would, Palmer definitely would and Curtis Samuel when on the same team for two years clearly out produced him and then even last year when both moved on and had clunky landings in new spots out produced him again. So those 3 are a given. Elijah Moore I could take an argument on because there is a reason he is bouncing around the league but production wise has more in the book. And Keon I could take an argument on too, I didn't like him or Dotson particularly coming out but his rookie season he had more yards than Dotson has ever managed. So yea, I think the Bills 1-5 would probably all be the 3 in Philly. Wide Receiver is actually one position Howie Roseman has not drafted particularly well aside from Devonta Smith who was a slam dunk (although I think they traded up a spot or two to get him so credit for that). 

Dotson and Samuel were teammates for two years and dotson averaged more yards/game and y/r plus more TDs just fyi

Posted
4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Dotson and Samuel were teammates for two years and dotson averaged more yards/game and y/r plus more TDs just fyi

 

Sure, but fewer yards overall. Some of that is usage granted. I don't think Samuel is very good either so I wouldn't have a big fight about it, but Dotson is a bust and he is out of excuses. 

 

 

Posted
18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Sure, but fewer yards overall. Some of that is usage granted. I don't think Samuel is very good either so I wouldn't have a big fight about it, but Dotson is a bust and he is out of excuses. 

 

 

He was injured

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Posted
9 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Our WR is a bunch of #2's and below.  But collectively they put up damn good numbers.

Actually… they really didn’t.  Just over 4k in yards for JA is all you even have to look at to know the receiving wasn’t good.

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Posted
13 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Actually… they really didn’t.  Just over 4k in yards for JA is all you even have to look at to know the receiving wasn’t good.

There’s this misconception that because the offense scored a lot of points, they were good everywhere. It’s beating a dead horse at this point but the receivers were not good. They blocked well and ran after the catch well. They were rarely open especially as they got further down the field.
 

I think Samuel will bounce back. Moore and Palmer seem to be solid additions (I think Moore emerges as one of the people that Josh trusts most). This group is better than last year but that’s not a high bar despite the points that they scored. We shouldn’t expect a historic level of negative plays again. That will regress some. Hopefully the upgrades at WR will offset any regression. They’re still a bottom 5-8 group but have strong depth. If you ever injected a number 1 WR, the group would be good. They added a couple of guys that can get open which they did not have last year (hence all the screens). The offense should have more ways to beat you this year. 

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Posted
13 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

We are a Josh Allen regressing to the turnover mean from being a very mediocre offensive football team.

This is a really good point. Beane is a gambler. He is banking on Allen continuing to take care of the ball and it could bite him or it could reward him. It’s very similar to how he hedged his bet that Gabe would build off his playoff game against the chiefs. That didn’t happen, and we were in trouble at the position for a while. I just hope he’s right this time or it’s gonna be a LONG season of answering questions for one Brandon Beane. 

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Posted
17 hours ago, Amaru523 said:

This is why Josh is MVP and it ain't close. Can you imagine if he had Detroit, Minny, or Cincy's weapons? Holy smokes, we'd never lose.

There are multiple teams where, if they had Josh Allen, they would lose somewhere between 0-2 games per season.

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