It's Sauce Gardner's turn. Extended through 2030, $120 Million.

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

These guys are already on the team and they don’t want them demanding trades when they draft a rookie QB high and start a rebuild.

 

Theres nothing stopping the Jets from drafting a QB and then loading up on the lines next year now. They have an offensive and defensive cornerstone locked up for the foreseeable future. 
 

I think Sauce is supremely overrated and I thought he quit on the team last year. He’s still very good.

 

Letting Wilson and or Sauce walk and then drafting their replacements high in the next year or two feels very drought Billsy.

 

This is not ideal for the Bills imo.

 

New Jets regime had every excuse they needed to trade them for assets before the players could ever demand one, just like when Beane came in and cleaned house. Not their guys, etc etc

 

The whole building needs a reset, not overspending on keeping under-producing boundary players (even if they are very good).

 

This doesnt make me any more worried about the Jets.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

The Jets in recent drafts have been building the OL. Their DL is decent as well. They don't have a QB as Fields is on his 3rd team already. I guess the plan is to get one in the draft next year.

 

The recent draft record is a fair point.

Edited July 15 by DrDawkinstein

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

New Jets regime had every excuse they needed to trade them for assets before the players could ever demand one, just like when Beane came in and cleaned house. Not their guys, etc etc

 

The whole building needs a reset, not overspending on keeping under-producing boundary players (even if they are very good).

 

This doesnt make me any more worried about the Jets.

 

 

 

As long as Woody Johnson owns the team then they will always be a clown show. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Gregg said:

 

As long as Woody Johnson owns the team then they will always be a clown show. 

 

Just wait until Brick takes over.  We're good for 70 more years.

[BillsDad51]

25 minutes ago, Logic said:

Am I crazy to think he's overrated?

Am I also crazy to think he has an invisibility cloak that allows him to CONSTANTLY get away with committing holding and DPI penalties without the refs noticing?

Is it because he has a cool nickname? If he was called Frank Smith, would he still get the accolades and the bag he just got?

Whatever. Wake me when Woody Johnson is gone or they have a quarterback.

Plus he can't tackle. Never goes low. Liability against the run. 

[Simon]

14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Just wait until Brick takes over.  We're good for 70 more years.

 

[Saint Doug]

1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said:

The plan is to draft a QB in a year or 2 with key players locked up while the QB is on a rookie contract for at least 3 years.  Not a bad plan if they find the right QB, but the last time the Jets drafted the right QB was 2000 when they drafted Chad Pennington, and even then it was the same year NE drafted Tom Brady 5 rounds later. 

 

I remember it was not too long ago the Bills had this exact same plan. I think it was during Whaley’s years (or maybe it was earlier) where we were fairly solid at many positions except for 1. It didn’t turn out too well for that front office. 

[SoCal Deek]

Seeing these two big contract extensions by the Jets in the last two days it got me to thinking were the Bills early in extending their veterans, or are the Jets late, or are these teams just all on a different schedule? Seems like ages ago that the Bills locked in their roster. 

[Gregg]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bills-just-scored-another-win-over-the-jets-without-lifting-a-finger/ar-AA1IFgJN

[RoscoeParrish]

46 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I’m talking about 2nd contracts, not draft status. I think they use a different scheme and don’t need a guy who commands $30mil+. As evidence I present the signing of Benford as our #1 CB at about half the price of Gardner. Sure, everyone would LOVE a lockdown CB, but I think they are happy with the approach they have shown us. 

I think they signed Benford cheaper because they could. Benford clearly was not holding out to be the highest paid CB in the league. As evidence by his current contract.

 

In 2020, they ran the same scheme. And they made Tre White the highest paid CB in the league that season. Because Tre White was one of the most valuable CBs in the NFL based on his age and production. That alone should be the only evidence you need that this team is ABSOLUTELY willing to pay elite CBs who command top of the market money. 
 

Benford wasn’t commanding a similar salary, so they didn’t pay him a similar salary. 
 

The Bills would have also paid Myles Garrett top of the market money if he was on the roster, despite Greg Rousseau getting a lesser contract. Because Myles Garrett commands that type of salary, and Greg Rousseau does not.

Edited July 15 by RoscoeParrish

[EasternOHBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

No surprise here. They locked up two key players going forward that they can fail around. 

 

Fixed.

[Augie]

1 minute ago, RoscoeParrish said:

I think they signed Benford cheaper because they could. Benford clearly was not holding out to be the highest paid CB in the league. As evidence by his current contract.

 

In 2020, they ran the same scheme. And they made Tre White the highest paid CB in the league that season. Because Tre White was one of the most valuable CBs in the NFL based on his age and production. That alone should be the only evidence you need that this team is ABSOLUTELY willing to pay elite CBs who command top of the market money. 
 

Benford wasn’t commanding a similar salary, so they didn’t pay him a similar salary. 
 

The Bills would have also paid Myles Garrett top of the market money if he was on the roster, despite Greg Rousseau getting a lesser contract. Because Myles Garrett commands that type of salary, and Greg Rousseau does not.

 

You can only pay so many top salaries. We have enough big contracts now that we need to be more economical. 

[RoscoeParrish]

45 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

New Jets regime had every excuse they needed to trade them for assets before the players could ever demand one, just like when Beane came in and cleaned house. Not their guys, etc etc

 

The whole building needs a reset, not overspending on keeping under-producing boundary players (even if they are very good).

 

This doesnt make me any more worried about the Jets

I would prefer the next rookie QB on the Jets to be joining a terrible roster. Not one with very good players.

 

I think the best thing a team can do is have a very talented team around a young QB. I think a bad thing to do is have them running around for their life.

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

You can only pay so many top salaries. We have enough big contracts now that we need to be more economical. 

I get that.

 

I guess what I’m saying is if Kaiir Elam was a 3x All Pro, 3x Pro Bowler and 2nd in defensive player of the year voting, I think the Bills probably give him a similar deal to Sauce and save money elsewhere.

[DrDawkinstein]

18 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Seeing these two big contract extensions by the Jets in the last two days it got me to thinking were the Bills early in extending their veterans, or are the Jets late, or are these teams just all on a different schedule? Seems like ages ago that the Bills locked in their roster. 

 

They just brought in a new GM and HC so that may have delayed getting down to business whereas Beane was likely in talks with some of these agents last season. That's my guess at least.

[JerseyBills]

59 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

New Jets regime had every excuse they needed to trade them for assets before the players could ever demand one, just like when Beane came in and cleaned house. Not their guys, etc etc

 

The whole building needs a reset, not overspending on keeping under-producing boundary players (even if they are very good).

 

This doesnt make me any more worried about the Jets.

 

 

 

The recent draft record is a fair point.

I was listening to WFAN when news came in and fans/radio hosts really like this deal, more than Wilson 

 

I personally think Sauce is overrated , Wilson has potential to be very elite, without paying a QB you can afford these contracts. While Beane did overhaul our roster, we had no young talent in need of a contract,  I think they're going in the right direction 

 

P.S - Benford was a phenomenal contract 

Edited July 15 by JerseyBills

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Ehh, I dont think you build around WRs and CBs. If you arent going to have a QB, you start building the trenches imo.

I will go one step further find you QB and build around them, period, if you arn't going to have a QB, you suck, period!  You can pay all the CB's, WR's or OL you want.

[DrDawkinstein]

6 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

I was listening to WFAN when news came in and fans/radio hosts really like this deal, more than Wilson 

 

I personally think Sauce is overrated , Wilson has potential to be very elite, without paying a QB you can afford these contracts. While Beane did overhaul our roster, we had no young talent in need of a contract,  I think they're going in the right direction 

 

P.S - Benford was a phenomenal contract 

 

Funny, the rest of the internet is slobbing the Jets right now too. A lot of "The Jets are finally doing it right!". I dont have the time or patience to tell them how they are wrong, so I'll just sit back and wait for it to all fall apart by October and enjoy the schadenfreude like I have the last few years.

[Augie]

10 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

I would prefer the next rookie QB on the Jets to be joining a terrible roster. Not one with very good players.

 

I think the best thing a team can do is have a very talented team around a young QB. I think a bad thing to do is have them running around for their life.

 

I get that.

 

I guess what I’m saying is if Kaiir Elam was a 3x All Pro, 3x Pro Bowler and 2nd in defensive player of the year voting, I think the Bills probably give him a similar deal to Sauce and save money elsewhere.

 

I think you need to protect a young QB first and foremost so he is not physically and emotionally ruined. But yes, he needs reliable targets who can get open. 

 

I think if Elam panned out they would have offered him early, as they do, and I doubt it would have been near the Gardner kind of money. Of course we’ll never know since these things don’t happen in a vacuum. Did Benford develop too? There are too many variables for me to spend metal energy on that. 

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

 

The Jets in recent drafts have been building the OL. Their DL is decent as well. They don't have a QB as Fields is on his 3rd team already. I guess the plan is to get one in the draft next year.

Or maybe they'll trade for Trevor Lawrence next season. Cuz ya know Jets gonna Jets. 

[RoscoeParrish]

13 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I think you need to protect a young QB first and foremost so he is not physically and emotionally ruined. But yes, he needs reliable targets who can get open. 

 

I think if Elam panned out they would have offered him early, as they do, and I doubt it would have been near the Gardner kind of money. Of course we’ll never know since these things don’t happen in a vacuum. Did Benford develop too? There are too many variables for me to spend metal energy on that. 

I guess we’ll never know.

 

I still think McD loves the defensive flexibility that an elite island CB gives him. He loved it with Tre and used it to great effect. 
 

Is it better from a team building strategy to have a good CB1 making half of what a great CB1 makes? Maybe.
 

But I still think if Benford commanded an elite salary, McD and co would’ve given it to him. NFL teams generally are in favor of paying elite players and figuring out the other money later. Because elite players are harder to find than good ones.

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 hours ago, HOUSE said:

In the year twenty five twenty five, if man is still alive....

25 or 6 to 4?