NFL Quarterback on Netflix-new season

[TBBills Fan]

I watched the first few episodes. I always enjoy these type of documentary/shows that go behind the scenes. Would like to hear everyone's thoughts on it or parts that stood out. 

 

The show follows Cousins, Goff and Burrow last year.  Considering the stories of the Bengals, Lions and Falcons last year (and their QBs), I give it a 10/10 recommend you watch.  I absolutely enjoyed it. I fell asleep for the last episode so I'll get to that tonight

 

One that stood out for me, was what they showed during the Bills and Lions game last year. We were up 21-14 at half. 

 

They show and give audio at the start of the third quarter and it's Ben Johnson and Goff talking....(edit..it may have been late in the third they had this convo. I'll have to watch that part again)

 

Either way, the conversation goes like this

 

Johnson-so you know, we aren't running it the rest of the game. 

Goff-yeah I know and if they keep playing D like they did at the end of the half we are gonna smoke em

 

Now, I think this goes into what has been spoke about on these boards.  When we get a lead we just sit in a prevent type role and get smoked.  It almost cost us in this game.  The lions did whatever they wanted in the 2nd half and the game got a lot closer than it should have.  Thankfully our offense didn't slow down either. 

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That said, we won.  Should we continue with this strategy when we get up a few scores, or would you prefer more aggression when we have the other team one dimensional?

 

Edited Thursday at 02:54 PM by TBBills Fan

[Simon]

4 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:

We were up 35-14 I think at half...

 

When we get a lead we just sit in a prevent type role and get smoked.  It almost cost us in this game.  They did whatever the lions did whatever they wanted in the 2nd half and the game got a lot closer than it should have.  Thankfully our offense didn't slow down either. 

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That said, we won.  Should we continue with this strategy when we get up a few scores, or would you prefer more aggression when we have the other team one dimensional?

 

 

We were only up 21-14 at the half; the Bills didn't go up 35-14 til very late in the 3rd.

 

The Lions didn't even score in the 2nd half until near the very end of the 3rd qrtr on a fluky tipped-ball 60+yrd TD on 3rd/20ish.

From that point on they never got within one score of the Bills until the last play of the game because the Bills were forcing them to piece together 10-15 play drives for their points.

They played it just right for a road win against what I think was the best team in the league at that point.

[TBBills Fan]

43 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

 

We were only up 21-14 at the half; the Bills didn't go up 35-14 til very late in the 3rd.

 

The Lions didn't even score in the 2nd half until near the very end of the 3rd qrtr on a fluky tipped-ball 60+yrd TD on 3rd/20ish.

From that point on they never got within one score of the Bills until the last play of the game because the Bills were forcing them to piece together 10-15 play drives for their points.

They played it just right for a road win against what I think was the best team in the league at that point.

I'll.have to re watch the game, because I just looked up the box score and they put up 28 in the second half. 7 in the third and 21 in the 4th

 

Thanks I edited the halftime score in my OP. The audio between Goff and Johnson may have been at that point in the third (score 35-14) then. Cause they showed the score right after that conversation if memory serves. 

 

I agree, they were the best team in the league at that point.  We did win, and the results do say we played it right. 

 

Maybe it's a case of frustration, or arm chair coaching on my part. I get the idea, make them burn clock, hope our offense does the same and play it safe. 

 

If we look at the ravens game in the playoffs, that one got a lot closer than it should have as well.  

 

Maybe there is a happy medium here as the shell coverage has its place, but maybe a little more aggression could help us avoid any problematic comebacks.  

 

I think it's worth a discussion. Especially in the dog days of July

Edited Thursday at 03:08 PM by TBBills Fan

[Royale with Cheese]

6 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:

I'll.have to re watch the game, because I just looked up the box score and they put up 28 in the second half. 7 in the third and 21 in the 4th

 

Thanks I edited the halftime score in my OP. The audio between Goff and Johnson may have been at that point in the third then. Cause they showed the score right after that conversation if memory serves. 

 

I agree, they were the best team in the league at that point.  We did win, and the results do say we played it right. 

 

Maybe it's a case of frustration, or arm chair coaching on my part. I get the idea, make them burn clock, hope our offense does the same and play it safe. 

 

If we look at the ravens game in the playoffs, that one got a lot closer than it should have as well.  

 

Maybe there is a happy medium here as the shell coverage has its place, but maybe a little more aggression could help us avoid any problematic comebacks.  

 

I think it's worth a discussion. Especially in the dog days of July

 

You have every right to have frustration because we have seen this burn us before.  

[Desert Bills Fan]

Yes, I am hoping with the defensive influx of talent, that a more aggressive mix it up approach will be used. More line stunts, more disguised blitzes. Etc.

playing nickel D so much, does limit what you can do - with so many DBs on the field though.

[SCBills]

Our Defense was pretty meh, at best, last year.  I’m as frustrated as anyone that, regardless of roster, they become made of glass in the playoffs and get smoked by whatever iteration of the Chiefs Offense we have to see in the Playoffs year to year … but I won’t try to glean too much off what they did to get by last year. 
 

That same defense managed to get us by the best team in our conference with the Offense playing ball control in the Divisional Round. 
 

Now this year, with the new coaches they brought in, likely infusion of a 1st Round CB and second year 2nd Round Safety and Ryan Nielsen working with a far more talented DL group, I expect to see a different caliber of Defense.. one that causes havoc and manages to get off the field without needing turnovers to do so, allowing them to play a bit differently. 
 

Edited Thursday at 02:44 PM by SCBills

[TBBills Fan]

7 minutes ago, Desert Bills Fan said:

Yes, I am hoping with the defensive influx of talent, that a more aggressive mix it up approach will be used. More line stunts, more disguised blitzes. Etc.

playing nickel D so much, does limit what you can do - with so many DBs on the field though.

Talent and let's not forget the new coaching we brought in. To my amateur eye, it looks like McBeane identified they want more talent on D, more production from the D line, they may want to play more man-doed this mean more aggression, and brought in outside eyes with experience in these areas. 

 

I think it's an area they wanted to improve and the moves they made are logical to achieve that improvement 

[TBBills Fan]

21 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Our Defense was pretty meh, at best, last year.  I’m as frustrated as anyone that, regardless of roster, they become made of glass in the playoffs and get smoked by whatever iteration of the Chiefs Offense we have to see in the Playoffs year to year … but I won’t try to glean too much off what they did to get by last year. 
 

That same defense managed to get us by the best team in our conference with the Offense playing ball control in the Divisional Round. 
 

Now this year, with the new coaches they brought in, likely infusion of a 1st Round CB and second year 2nd Round Safety and Ryan Nielsen working with a far more talented DL group, I expect to see a different caliber of Defense.. one that causes havoc and manages to get off the field without needing turnovers to do so, allowing them to play a bit differently. 
 

Me too! Talent leveled up on paper, new coaches with specific skills.  I also think they play it a bit different this year.  I think games like Detroit,  can give us Insight into why our off season was as it was as well as what we may see here in 2025

 

A dominant defense and offense is possible. I think anything less than a Superbowl,  the team will consider it a failure, as will I. 

Edited Thursday at 03:04 PM by TBBills Fan

[Matt_In_NH]

Cant wait to watch!   There are definitely moments when the Bills d is warm butter. 

[HOUSE]

Netflix is for rich people

 

 

[TBBills Fan]

34 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Netflix is for rich people

 

 

I'll trade nudes for access to my account.  You get one free buddy with a different IP 

1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Cant wait to watch!   There are definitely moments when the Bills d is warm butter. 

For me, it was great tv.

 

Burrow is a weird, chill dude. Seeing how he dealt with losing last year while lighting it up, he earned respect points

 

Cousins, like the first season reminds me of a guy that says and does all he is supposed to, but has a deep secret no one knows about

 

Goff, is such a likeable dude.  Hearing his story from him, even his girl and their relationship..

Goff is someone I'd have a beer with and is easy to root for. 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 07:34 PM by TBBills Fan

[corta765]

Did your memory blackout that game? The Bills and Lions defenses both were banged up and starting second & third stringers by the end of this game all over the place. With the power both offenses have they took advantage of the injuries tenfold.

[TBBills Fan]

16 minutes ago, corta765 said:

Did your memory blackout that game? The Bills and Lions defenses both were banged up and starting second & third stringers by the end of this game all over the place. With the power both offenses have they took advantage of the injuries tenfold.

Yes, Detroit had walk ons at LB, Hutchinson out for year etc we were a bit banged up as well. 

 

We had Douglas, hamlin, rapp, Jefferson and toolhill out on D

My comment about the goff/Johnson comment was more about our philosophy during games, how other teams take advantage of it etc

 

If we were healthy we still go into a shell/prevent style and work the clock on O and D game script ahead

 

So this is just an example, and it's interesting to me hearing what the opponent was hoping we would do to give them a shot at coming back

 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 07:57 PM by TBBills Fan

[corta765]

Just now, TBBills Fan said:

Yes, Detroit had walk ons at LB, Hutchinson out for year etc we were a bit banged up as well. 

 

We had Douglas, hamlin, rapp, Jefferson and toolhill out on D

 

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Milano also left early along with Dorian Williams. Sorry I shouldn't have come across so aggressive but this game both offenses were peak of their power and I would expect both said what Goff & Johnson did because they were that good.

 

The Rams game the week earlier bothered me wayyyy more because the defense was not nearly as maligned and the Rams in the week prior and after scored a combined 33 pts. As much as I am a big believer in the Rams that was just an abysmal job by our D and the flaws came out that they were not nearly as good as the stats showed (which given a reset year wasn't the end of the world).

[Comebackkid]

hopefully babbich with a year under his belt will pay dividends this year

[TBBills Fan]

2 minutes ago, corta765 said:

Milano also left early along with Dorian Williams. Sorry I shouldn't have come across so aggressive but this game both offenses were peak of their power and I would expect both said what Goff & Johnson did because they were that good.

 

The Rams game the week earlier bothered me wayyyy more because the defense was not nearly as maligned and the Rams in the week prior and after scored a combined 33 pts. As much as I am a big believer in the Rams that was just an abysmal job by our D and the flaws came out that they were not nearly as good as the stats showed (which given a reset year wasn't the end of the world).

I'm still mad at the bills about the Rams game

 

Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fan of McBeane and company.

 

Because I've heard many opinions on our style of D when we are winning, that particular line from them really peaked my interest.  You would think you don't play the style of D the other team hopes you play.  

 

Josh keeping the cape on and shredding that banged up D til the end really saved us  that week

 

Ideally I'd like Josh to take the cape off third quarter and ride the bench while the D puts their foot on our opponents throat

 

 

[JohnNord]

1 hour ago, TBBills Fan said:

I'll trade nudes for access to my account.  You get one free buddy with a different IP 

For me, it was great tv.

 

Burrow is a weird, chill dude. Seeing how he dealt with losing last year while lighting it up, he earned respect points

 

Cousins, like the first season reminds me of a guy that says and does all he is supposed to, but has a deep secret no one knows about

 

Goff, is such a likeable dude.  Hearing his story from him, even his girl and their relationship..

Goff is someone I'd have a beer with and is easy to root for. 

 

 

The worst scene was Burrow talking to his “stylist.”  His stylist picked out the most ridiculous outfits that Burrow knew were trash but he trusted his weird stylist.  

 

they also showed the iconic video from Fashion Week in Paris where he looked like a complete douche with the stupid backless suit.  

Edited Thursday at 08:49 PM by JohnNord

[TBBills Fan]

9 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

The worst scene was Burrow talking to his “stylist.”  His stylist picked out the most ridiculous outfits that Burrow knew were trash but he trusted his weird stylist.  

 

they also showed the iconic video from Fashion Week in Paris where he looked like a complete douche with the stupid backless suit.  

Yeah he has his young boy picking out his cloths that he shows up for on gameday

 

His mom is like yeah, he was always picky and in HD it was tshirts and cargo shorts 

[HurlyBurly51]

I couldn't watch season 1, just can't stomach Patty.  Will be checking out season 2 though🏈

[bills6969]

Kirk Cousins is the corniest dude