kitchen sink Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Over the last few years, it has appeared to me to be more apparent then ever that Mass Media can dish it out when it comes to being negative on folks (maybe even to the point of attacking), but is very thin skinned when someone pushes back negatively on them. This applies to all mass media, but the recent round of negative items about Brandon Bean (the one on WGR about wide receivers and the more recent about PFF grading) and the ongoing rant on WGR about the Saber GM's comments are what inspired me to start this post. I see what the mass media is saying about this and it really points out this situation to me. Is is just me or do you see this as well? 2 Quote
nuklz2594 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Feelings police are everywhere. if you don't read the news, you are uninformed. if you read the news, you are misinformed....denzel washington nailed this 2 3 Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, kitchen sink said: Over the last few years, it has appeared to me to be more apparent then ever that Mass Media can dish it out when it comes to being negative on folks (maybe even to the point of attacking), but is very thin skinned when someone pushes back negatively on them. This applies to all mass media, but the recent round of negative items about Brandon Bean (the one on WGR about wide receivers and the more recent about PFF grading) and the ongoing rant on WGR about the Saber GM's comments are what inspired me to start this post. I see what the mass media is saying about this and it really points out this situation to me. Is is just me or do you see this as well? We have this whole gigantic thread about talking heads saying things, so this is nothing new. If "pushing back" means PR damage control or outright lying about their reports, then that isn't having a thin skin, that is defending the truth. We got burned in the Cooper trade and it didn't work out, and our WR corps still isn't anything to write home about even now. Edited 3 hours ago by EasternOHBillsFan Quote
Jauronimo Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago One thing I have noticed from many years of observing the NFL and professional sports is that the media, the GMs, the players... they're all people. And they do people things. 7 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: One thing I have noticed from many years of observing the NFL and professional sports is that the media, the GMs, the players... they're all people. And they do people things. Love it. This is one step away from the great Neil Gaiman/Terry Pratchett line in Good Omens: “It may help to understand human affairs to be clear that most of the great triumphs and tragedies of history are caused, not by people being fundamentally good or fundamentally bad, but by people being fundamentally people.” 1 Quote
Dillenger4 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago And yet here you are OP...discussing what they want you to talk about. Thats how it works. Turn off the tv, stop reading CNN etc. Life is very good once you tune it out. 2 1 1 Quote
Madbillsfan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, kitchen sink said: Over the last few years, it has appeared to me to be more apparent then ever that Mass Media can dish it out when it comes to being negative on folks (maybe even to the point of attacking), but is very thin skinned when someone pushes back negatively on them. This applies to all mass media, but the recent round of negative items about Brandon Bean (the one on WGR about wide receivers and the more recent about PFF grading) and the ongoing rant on WGR about the Saber GM's comments are what inspired me to start this post. I see what the mass media is saying about this and it really points out this situation to me. Is is just me or do you see this as well? Only 3 guys prepare for their show. One refuses to learn anything before he was born. They all play victim when they are accused of anything. Golf talk is boring. Personal golf talk induces coma. They contribute to nepotism. Did I forget anything? Quote
MPL Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I have not been to Mass in a very long time. They have media now? Father Prevost would not like that. Quote
SoCal Deek Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Everything in life is cause and effect. The reason media is the way the OP observed is that there’s very little true reporting or investigative journalism being done. That sort of thing takes lots of time and costs lots of money. What we have instead is people just spouting opinions or repeating other people’s opinions. With a plethora of outlets competing for attention each story burns red hot for a week and then the circus packs up and moves on to the next car accident. The only remaining question is whether it’ll reach such a critical mass that it completely folds in on itself and/or explodes in supernova. 1 Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, nuklz2594 said: Feelings police are everywhere. if you don't read the news, you are uninformed. if you read the news, you are misinformed....denzel washington nailed this I saw that interview, it was fantastic. Simple yet brilliant observations. Quote
Fleezoid Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Everyone is making great points. I think I'll start a podcast about it. 1 Quote
Southern McButterpants. Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 14 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: Everyone is making great points. I think I'll start a podcast about it. Are you under 60? Quote
JP51 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, nuklz2594 said: Feelings police are everywhere. if you don't read the news, you are uninformed. if you read the news, you are misinformed....denzel washington nailed this True story... I go from MSNBC, CNN,FOX, news nation everyday to piece together some remote semblance of truth. And yet I still feel misinformed... media are nothing but political spin doctors. Quote
NyQuil Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) A local reporter challenged me to a fight once when I told him the University of Buffalo wasn’t an official nickname for UB. Hamilton and Harrington were block machines the last time I was on twitter. Edited 1 hour ago by NyQuil Quote
Thurman#1 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 35 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Everything in life is cause and effect. The reason media is the way the OP observed is that there’s very little true reporting or investigative journalism being done. That sort of thing takes lots of time and costs lots of money. What we have instead is people just spouting opinions or repeating other people’s opinions. With a plethora of outlets competing for attention each story burns red hot for a week and then the circus packs up and moves on to the next car accident. The only remaining question is whether it’ll reach such a critical mass that it completely folds in on itself and/or explodes in supernova. There's plenty of true reporting. Maybe not a ton of deep reporting, but that's not really as much on the media as it is what people say and how often they talk. Investigative journalism? Yeah, not much, but there's not much of a way to do that in football. Reporters only get access at PCs, there are NFL rules about what can be reported and what can't. In every field public figures have learned how to keep reporters away. What are they gonna do? The science of public relations has taken over and public figures don't take risks or reveal much. This does indeed result in a lot of shallow stuff, boring stuff. The NFL doesn't seem to mind. Edited 1 hour ago by Thurman#1 Quote
behind a post WMS69 Posted 50 minutes ago Posted 50 minutes ago 23 minutes ago, JP51 said: True story... I go from MSNBC, CNN,FOX, news nation everyday to piece together some remote semblance of truth. And yet I still feel misinformed... media are nothing but political spin doctors. Skip all 3 of those hacks and start with AP and Reuters! Msnbc especially has because as bad as Faux news. Quote
Fleezoid Posted 43 minutes ago Posted 43 minutes ago 38 minutes ago, Southern McButterpants. said: Are you under 60? No. I'm disqualified aren't I? Quote
Jim Posted 37 minutes ago Posted 37 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Madbillsfan said: Only 3 guys prepare for their show. One refuses to learn anything before he was born. They all play victim when they are accused of anything. Golf talk is boring. Personal golf talk induces coma. They contribute to nepotism. Did I forget anything? Who are you talking about? One refuses to learn anything from before he was born? Sneaky Joe? Golf? Jeremy and Joe? Quote
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