Brandon Beane "might be the most sensitive GM in the entire NFL"?

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

FWIW, Brandon Beane didn't interview with the Bills until after the draft, and was one of a couple candidates interviewed.

 

I know the suspicion is that he knew and was tipping picks to McD but do we know that's true?

 

No and I don't think he was "running the Bills draft from Charlotte" but do I think he was tight with McDermott and had an inclin what was coming? Yes. 

 

Twice in round 2 the Bills jumped above the Panthers in trade ups and took the exact same position as the Panthers took after (4 picks after once and the right next pick the other time). Do I think Beane was saying "take Zay and Dion"... no. Do I think it is reasonable to assume McD had some inside info as to the positions the Panthers were interested in? Yes.

[Alphadawg7]

47 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

No and I don't think he was "running the Bills draft from Charlotte" but do I think he was tight with McDermott and had an inclin what was coming? Yes. 

 

Twice in round 2 the Bills jumped above the Panthers in trade ups and took the exact same position as the Panthers took after (4 picks after once and the right next pick the other time). Do I think Beane was saying "take Zay and Dion"... no. Do I think it is reasonable to assume McD had some inside info as to the positions the Panthers were interested in? Yes.

 

That really isn't evidence that he had inside information coming in from Beane though.  I mean every draft every team has an idea of who other teams might be targeting position wise.  Teams spend the whole calendar year scouting players and scouts, GM's etc see each other at the same places looking at the same guys.  

 

More importantly, McD just left the Panthers, so of course he was very aware of where they needed to upgrade and what their priorities were when he left as the team had been scouting all year long even prior to him leaving where the coaches weigh in as well.  We didn't need inside info after he left to think we may need to get ahead of them for positions we already knew they (or anyone else) may be interested in.

 

And quite frankly, that doesn't at all sound like something inside Beane's character to where he might leak insight to McD before he left the Panthers, especially before he knew he was getting the job.  

 

So this belief some people have that McD was getting tipped info from Beane, or anyone else, who the Panthers draft targets during the draft just seems more like a conspiracy theory than a plausible occurence.

Edited 5 hours ago by Alphadawg7

[GunnerBill]

11 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

That really isn't evidence that he had inside information coming in from Beane though.  I mean every draft every team has an idea of who other teams might be targeting position wise.  Teams spend the whole calendar year scouting players and scouts, GM's etc see each other at the same places looking at the same guys.  

 

More importantly, McD just left the Panthers, so of course he was very aware of where they needed to upgrade and what their priorities were when he left as the team had been scouting all year long even prior to him leaving where the coaches weigh in as well.  We didn't need inside info after he left to think we may need to get ahead of them for positions we already knew they (or anyone else) may be interested in.

 

And quite frankly, that doesn't at all sound like something inside Beane's character to where he might leak insight to McD before he left the Panthers, especially before he knew he was getting the job.  

 

So this belief some people have that McD was getting tipped info from Beane, or anyone else, who the Panthers draft targets during the draft just seems more like a conspiracy theory than a plausible occurence.

 

I wasn't suggesting there was direct leaking. But I am pretty sure McDermott and Beane talked between McDermott arriving here and Beane joining post draft. And I think common weaknesses in the rosters would have been part of those conversations. 

 

Again.... not "hey Sean we are taking a receiver and a tackle with guard flex on day two". 

 

I think Sean McDermott was politicking for Brandon Beane to get this job pretty much the moment he arrived. And I think Beane knew that too. And as such they talked about team needs. 

[Alphadawg7]

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I wasn't suggesting there was direct leaking. But I am pretty sure McDermott and Beane talked between McDermott arriving here and Beane joining post draft. And I think common weaknesses in the rosters would have been part of those conversations. 

 

Again.... not "hey Sean we are taking a receiver and a tackle with guard flex on day two". 

 

I think Sean McDermott was politicking for Brandon Beane to get this job pretty much the moment he arrived. And I think Beane knew that too. And as such they talked about team needs. 

 

Thats a fair assumption, but a lot of people think we made moves directly because of information given by Beane, and I just don't think that has any validity to it. 

 

McD already knew the Panthers needs before he was hired as HC, he definitely didn't need insight from Beane to know they might have interest in those positions.  So the fact we traded up I think had nothing to do with Beane's eventual hire here and everything to do with McD already knowing the Panthers inside and out, Bills team scouting the whole year on who we wanted and what other teams besides just the Panthers might have interest as well, etc.  

 

I really don't think anything more than that occurred.  We will never know for sure, but the likelihood anything from Beane influenced the Bills draft day decisions seems pretty low given McD would have known that info on his own having just come from the Panthers.  

Edited 5 hours ago by Alphadawg7

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, FireChans said:

FWIW, Brandon Beane didn't interview with the Bills until after the draft, and was one of a couple candidates interviewed.

 

I know the suspicion is that he knew and was tipping picks to McD but do we know that's true?

 

 

I'm curious why you think the interview process supports a different conclusion than what Carolina believed.

 

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I'm curious why you think the interview process supports a different conclusion than what Carolina believed.

 

Huh

[MJS]

Pretty silly statement. How do you rank and measure the sensitivity of NFL GMs? Beane is a top GM in the league and does a great job. He has built one of the best rosters in the NFL, as well as a talented staff. He is normally pretty buttoned up and has only rarely let his guard down and gotten testy with the media. He's a good professional.

[CoudyBills]

19 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

 

 

Nah.

 

Delta Force is selecting from a group of soldiers. We're selecting from a group of football players.

 

It's much the same thing in that each is selecting from a group of people who has had preparation that could potentially prepare them for what is needed from them, but equally doesn't prove that you'll be good at it.

 

There are plenty of men of high character in the group Delta is selecting from. And while all of them had gone through training, except in time of war, most have not killed anyone. And it goes beyond that ...

 

Studies show that a majority of soldiers in every war don't actually shoot their weapons with intent to kill or harm the enemy. Check S.L.A. Marshall's work, (which has been supported in recent research) or for just a quick look, go here:

 

 

Absolutely nothing wrong with being culture-centric.

 

Nah.

 

I never said there was.  

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

Huh

 

 

Is that a question?  

 

If not, I agree with the sentiment.

 

The league has a process for interviews.    

 

Whaley had to be terminated before formal interviews could commence.

 

Hence the timing being AFTER Whaley was fired........following the draft.

 

It was an exhaustive 4 man interview search.

 

The minority candidate to satisfy the RR (Trey Brown).

 

Beane.........who had the job locked up.  

 

And the two personnel guys they hoped they could get to head up scouting for Beane......... pro personnel(Brian Gaine) and college scouting(Brian Gutekunst).

 

They got Gaine on the dotted line a week after Beane got the job.

 

Gutekunst was part of that Green Bay college scouting department which picked a defensive player in round 1 like 13 out of 14 drafts or something like that.........so it's easy to see the attraction there.   

 

[CircleTheWagons99]

Poor football focus.