Training camp schedule & ticket info released!

[Doc]

Just now, BillsPride12 said:

I get that point and don't condone that behavior at all.  I was able to get 6 tickets but at the time there were two maybe's in our group and I was going to give those two tickets away to someone trying to take their child if they backed out but they have since confirmed they are in as well.

 

My original point being there is such a high demand because of the popularity of the Josh Allen era Bills that they could not just open it up to the general public without requiring tickets because the facilities would not be able to support that large of a crowd.  Like all of the primetime games we all can't stand now it's another one of those unfortunate angles to being a true contender with a marquee superstar at the helm of it.   

 

They cap it at 1,000 tickets now.  I wonder if they went over that prior to the lottery era?  

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

3 hours ago, BillsPride12 said:

Saw a lot of complaining on Facebook about people not being able to get tickets.  I get it.  The problem is with the demand there currently is it's impossible to be able to accommodate everybody with tickets.

the problem is the current set up and the commercialization of camp. Let’s Go back to some place like Fredonia with endless fields and parking and people can come and go easily. 
 

I was at Steelers camp a few years back when the Bills practiced there, and that’s how it was. No tickets and you just roam around.

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

the problem is the current set up and the commercialization of camp. Let’s Go back to some place like Fredonia with endless fields and parking and people can come and go easily. 
 

I was at Steelers camp a few years back when the Bills practiced there, and that’s how it was. No tickets and you just roam around.

 

Post Big Ben?

[BillsPride12]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

They cap it at 1,000 tickets now.  I wonder if they went over that prior to the lottery era?  

I'm not sure.  But I'm sure behind the scenes they have the logistics of it all figured out.  There's no way they could leave it open without having a cap on attendants with the popularity of the team right now.  And yeah it totally sucks that some people get screwed by not being able to get tickets to it,  but what other way can you distribute tickets besides having some type of lottery?  I stand by my original point that is is impossible to accommodate everybody that wants to attend training camp with a ticket.

 

Keep in mind the tickets are free so there is a whole other pool of people trying to go that might not attend games because of the financials and how much smaller the seating area is at Fisher v.s. Highmark stadium and think about how many Bills fans are out there.  It's easy to say they can make it where everybody has a chance to get tickets if they want to do but impossible to execute.

5 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

the problem is the current set up and the commercialization of camp. Let’s Go back to some place like Fredonia with endless fields and parking and people can come and go easily. 
 

I was at Steelers camp a few years back when the Bills practiced there, and that’s how it was. No tickets and you just roam around.

Yeah that would be ideal but camp was commercialized a long time ago, even before Allen showed up

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

I'm not sure.  But I'm sure behind the scenes they have the logistics of it all figured out.  There's no way they could leave it open without having a cap on attendants with the popularity of the team right now.  And yeah it totally sucks that some people get screwed by not being able to get tickets to it,  but what other way can you distribute tickets besides having some type of lottery?  I stand by my original point that is is impossible to accommodate everybody that wants to attend training camp with a ticket.

 

Keep in mind the tickets are free so there is a whole other pool of people trying to go that might not attend games because of the financials and how much smaller the seating area is at Fisher v.s. Highmark stadium and think about how many Bills fans are out there.  It's easy to say they can make it where everybody has a chance to get tickets if they want to do but impossible to execute.

 

What I was getting at is that it seemed like they let in more people prior to the lottery system, but I could be wrong.  Meaning they could offer more than 1,000 tickets.  

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

5 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Post Big Ben?

this would have been around 2014, I think. Marrone era. I think the Steelers now have a free ticket system, but you can get them easily. I could get 6 right now. 
 

I loved going to camp last year in Rochester. But I literally had to win the lottery for something that should be easy and free.

[BillsPride12]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

What I was getting at is that it seemed like they let in more people prior to the lottery system, but I could be wrong.  Meaning they could offer more than 1,000 tickets.  

I'm not sure numbers wise but I see what you are saying.  I know training camp was never the issue/mess that it is now before things took off and the Bills became perennial contenders.  I remember going to training camp in 2019 and it wasn't the hassle that it is now.

 

Not sure if you are local in WNY right now but it reminds me of Artpark in Lewiston.  They used to do this free concert series every Tuesday night no tickets or anything required.  You could just show up and hang out, it was great!  Then one Summer they started bringing in bigger bands like ZZ Top and Lynyrd Skynyrd and it just became a madhouse and more people were attending than the facility was built to accommodate.  Total s***show.  The following year they started requiring you to buy tickets to this concert series.

[Doc]

1 minute ago, BillsPride12 said:

I'm not sure numbers wise but I see what you are saying.  I know training camp was never the issue/mess that it is now before things took off and the Bills became perennial contenders.  I remember going to training camp in 2019 and it wasn't the hassle that it is now.

 

Not sure if you are local in WNY right now but it reminds me of Artpark in Lewiston.  They used to do this free concert series every Tuesday night no tickets or anything required.  You could just show up and hang out, it was great!  Then one Summer they started bringing in bigger bands like ZZ Top and Lynyrd Skynyrd and it just became a madhouse and more people were attending than the facility was built to accommodate.  Total s***show.  The following year they started requiring you to buy tickets to this concert series.

 

Not local currently but grew up in Pittsford and my mom and still lives there and several relatives live in Rochester burbs.  I can literally walk to Pittsford-Mendon HS to catch the bus to training camp.  It's a nice event and a chance to visit her/them. 

 

And yeah, never had a problem going to camp until the last 2 years.  Which is understandable as I believe STH's should get first dibs.

[BillsPride12]

4 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Not local currently but grew up in Pittsford and my mom and still lives there and several relatives live in Rochester burbs.  I can literally walk to Pittsford-Mendon HS to catch the bus to training camp.  It's a nice event and a chance to visit her/them. 

 

And yeah, never had a problem going to camp until the last 2 years.  Which is understandable as I believe STH's should get first dibs.

Nice man.  I love that area.  On top of trying to make it to training camp every so often, there's alot of great golf courses out your way!

And that's a great example of people I do feel bad for, if your close enough to walk over but couldn't get tickets from the lottery system or I saw some people online saying they were coming back into town during training camp and wanted to take in a practice but weren't able to get tickets.  It is not ideal 

[Dablitzkrieg]

I lost in the lottery.  Have fun guys 

[Preds]

I won the Training camp lottery this year, 4 tix for the 29th.  Looking forward to it.

[ClosetFan]

Seems like it would make more sense for the Bills to just sell the tickets outright rather than have stubhub taking the profits. Maybe it could be a charity fund raiser. I would still rather see them move the practice to a venue able to handle the demand. Someone mentioned they saw tickets on sale for $70, but I thought NYS law limited markup to 10%.

[Doc]

27 minutes ago, ClosetFan said:

Seems like it would make more sense for the Bills to just sell the tickets outright rather than have stubhub taking the profits. Maybe it could be a charity fund raiser. I would still rather see them move the practice to a venue able to handle the demand. Someone mentioned they saw tickets on sale for $70, but I thought NYS law limited markup to 10%.

I believe if you charge for it, people can bring in recording equipment or something like that.  Also, even if they sell the tickets, people will still resell them.  The only solutions I can see are giving season ticket holders four tickets instead of six and increasing the number available per trading camp day, or having it back at the stadium.

[Just Jack]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

I believe if you charge for it, people can bring in recording equipment or something like that.  Also, even if they sell the tickets, people will still resell them.  The only solutions I can see are giving season ticket holders four tickets instead of six and increasing the number available per trading camp day, or having it back at the stadium.

 

Not sure if it is still the rule, but that's what the Redskins did years ago under Snyder. They were charging for camp tickets, and under the rules of the NFL at the time, other teams could send their personnel to record the Redskins camp, since they had to pay to get in. 

[tomur67]

With my luck, I will probably never get to another training camp. After 30 plus years trying to get tickets to the Masters at Augusta, I finally won the lottery and got two golden tickets.  Guess what , it was the year of COVID and they cancelled the event. I'm cursed when it comes to lotteries.

[LabattBlue]

I didn’t “win” tickets, but no worries.  Training camp is boring for the most part, and a bit of a ride coming from Buffalo area. 

[Your Brown Eye]

Scored 4 tickets for July 29th, two years in a row!

 

[fergie's ire]

Three weeks, baby.