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40 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Normally, I would agree with backtracking to more shared power, certainly in matters of the economy and spending.

But, regarding war powers, I expect and Congressional hearings would devolve into political grandstanding and sound bite seeking, and in no way have our nation's best interests as a goal.

Sound bite season contributing nothing.

I think at a minimum Trump should bring Congressional leadership of both parties into the room and share the intel and conversation on the mreits and the mision with these representatives of Congress. That would be a more consensus building approach rather than a series of one liners that he will decide what to do here. This may be happening but I've heard little on what is customary protocol. 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I think at a minimum Trump should bring Congressional leadership of both parties into the room and share the intel and conversation on the mreits and the mision with these representatives of Congress. That would be a more consensus building approach rather than a series of one liners that he will decide what to do here. This may be happening but I've heard little on what is customary protocol. 

 

 

 

Agree.

Convene the House and Senate Intel Committees and lay it out.

But......The US Congress has a horrible reputation for leaking to generate political gain.

 

I still wish he took more of a stateman's approach than this silly "I'll decide" solo nonsense.

He is what he is, and that's why I've never really liked him as a leader.

 

I do think he is very reluctant to commit US assets to the fray, but it may be the best way.

 

And less someone get some crazy notion, that has nothing to do with US ground forces.

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16 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Yet. What happens if Iran strikes U.S. troops in neighboring Iraq? 

 

When you say "strike," I assume you mean missile launches, unless they still have some cells inside Iraq that could somehow penetrate US defenses.

I honestly believe one of the reasons for the dramatic decrease in Iranian ballistic missile launches against Israel is because they are keeping a number in reserve for potential use against US forces in the region.

 

If they do that, we will have two carriers in place by Sunday, and a host of incredibly capable Air Force assets, and I would unleash that capability within an hour, and completely eliminate whatever military they have left, along with the nuc facilities.

No talk.  

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7 hours ago, aristocrat said:

The worst human rights crisis since the holocaust? lol this ain’t even top 25. What? 50-60k dead? Those are rookie numbers. 
 

https://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html

 

Fine, I’ll engage you in your obvious deflective pedantry. There is no objective ranking of human rights crises, but why I think calling the Gaza genocide the worst “since the Holocaust” is not hyperbolic:

 

1. 50-60k deaths is a horrific undercount. The Gaza Health Ministry lost the ability to officially count its dead long ago. The Lancet estimated almost 200k last summer, when you include people still buried under the rubble plus all the indirect deaths.

2. It is ongoing and only getting worse with the impacts of malnutrition on starving children.

3. It is being carried out by a First World country and funded by another one.

4. It is occurring in the age of the internet and digital mass media.

5. From a historical perspective, it probably marks the beginning of the end of Zionism.

6. From a historical perspective, it probably marks the end of the American Empire as a respected moral figure on the international stage.

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3 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

Agree.

Convene the House and Senate Intel Committees and lay it out.

But......The US Congress has a horrible reputation for leaking to generate political gain.

 

I still wish he took more of a stateman's approach than this silly "I'll decide" solo nonsense.

He is what he is, and that's why I've never really liked him as a leader.

 

I do think he is very reluctant to commit US assets to the fray, but it may be the best way.

 

And less someone get some crazy notion, that has nothing to do with US ground forces.

Maybe.  I also think he hit the brakes and gave the two weeks because he was told that’s the amount of time it will take to clear US citizens out of the region. 

3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

We bombed them:

 

 

Welp.  Scratch my previous post. 

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Maybe.  I also think he hit the brakes and gave the two weeks because he was told that’s the amount of time it will take to clear US citizens out of the region. 

Or “two weeks” was more misdirection. Ya think?

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38 minutes ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Fine, I’ll engage you in your obvious deflective pedantry. There is no objective ranking of human rights crises, but why I think calling the Gaza genocide the worst “since the Holocaust” is not hyperbolic:

 

1. 50-60k deaths is a horrific undercount. The Gaza Health Ministry lost the ability to officially count its dead long ago. The Lancet estimated almost 200k last summer, when you include people still buried under the rubble plus all the indirect deaths.

2. It is ongoing and only getting worse with the impacts of malnutrition on starving children.

3. It is being carried out by a First World country and funded by another one.

4. It is occurring in the age of the internet and digital mass media.

5. From a historical perspective, it probably marks the beginning of the end of Zionism.

6. From a historical perspective, it probably marks the end of the American Empire as a respected moral figure on the international stage.

I could also make up numbers and say the total I gave was too high and it’s only 10k. 

I guess trump didn’t chicken out 

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Welp, here we go.

 

I've made no bones about being hawkish relative to Iran for many years now. Similarly I've not been shy in my dislike of Trump in general 

 

With that being said, I don't know what combination of those two things made me laugh out loud in his capitalization of "BOMBS" , but it did. I take no comfort in people losing their lives, but damned if that didn't make me blow Utica Club out of my nose.

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Laura Loomer

 

goodness gracious she might be the LAST person I want to hear from now.

 

Great Donald didn't chicken out.  bully for him

 

now what.

2 minutes ago, Homelander said:

 

time for peace eh. 

 

as if You can control that. You can't.  what an arrogant *****

 

don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining 

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