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9 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

"Iran should surrender."

Where have I heard this before?

 

Oh, I remember now:

"The policy of the United States is regime change."

It has been for 80 years.  It's clearly not working, but that's the neo-con way.

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President Trump has been consistent in his view for over 10 years.

 

Iran must never have nuclear weapons, and the U.S. must not get stuck in regime change / nation building.

 

As he meets with his defense team and state dept., I am confident that this is still his goal.

 

Occupation is not the way this gets done. That's the way we get 20+ more years of endless war.

 

What's happening now is a complete undoing of that policy.

 

The same policy that's allowed the executive branch to accelerate it's creep, that's given the IC and MiC unfathomable and uncheckable power.

THEY wanted this war to be fought their way - propping up all sides to ensure a nasty, protracted fight that bleeds us of blood and treasure while they get rich.

 

You don't want that. I know you don't. Nor do I. If you want to end that, this is the way forward.

 

The Iranian people - not small pockets, the vast majority - have been clamoring for our help for nearly 3 decades now. They have to do the heavy lifting, and they want to. But they can't do it as long as our IC and WH keeps propping up the Mullahs.

 

The Mullahs being gone is good for Iran. It's good for the region. It's good for the US. It's good for the world. But it was never going to happen without force.

 

There are monsters in the hills that require brave men to slay them from time to time. That's the world we live in. It's fiction to believe otherwise.

 

It's the "how" that slaying gets done that's the quibble.

 

 

 

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So woke up this morning to see their empty threat of shocking the world was just that; an empty threat.

 

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Sounds like you have it figured out---it seems obvious the generations that followed the boomers figured out racism, sexism, xenophobia, and treating life at every level with kindness, decency and respect.  Maybe not so great on arrogance, but everything else is buttoned up for reals. 

 

Your sarcasm is adorable, but let’s please try to stay on topic. Polling data suggests that older conservative men, more or less, are the one demographic holdout in majority support of both neocon foreign policies and the state of Israel. Let’s call this the “Leh-nerd Skin-erd Demographic,” or “LSD” for short.

 

As this group’s representative, could you perhaps explain why the LSD may be so dissociated from reality, present AND past? All of us young whippersnappers promise to step off your lawn if you can lend insight into your group’s apparent majority support for the following ethical quandaries: government claims involving WMD’s, regime change wars, preemptive military strikes, collective punishment, ethnic cleansing, genocide, and apartheid states.

 

My perceived arrogance, by the way, stems from a strong understanding of this broad topic. If you see faults in my line of thinking, by all means point them out! Such verbal back-and-forth forms the basis of what linguistic scholars call a “discussion.” Try it, bruh.

 

Oh, and yes I am most certainly “buttoned up for reals.” Sartorial fastening is a trivial endeavor for any vegan with a 19.3 BMI.

 

<< haughty hair flip >>

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Posted
7 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

That’s the advantage of saying everything and nothing all at once 

1 hour ago, yall said:

So woke up this morning to see their empty threat of shocking the world was just that; an empty threat.

 

 

 

 

No kidding.  Trump Tacos again

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2 minutes ago, TH3 said:

That’s the advantage of saying everything and nothing all at once 

No kidding.  Trump Tacos again

I was referring to Iran.

 

The US made no such claim of "shocking the world for centuries to come".

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2 minutes ago, yall said:

I was referring to Iran.

 

The US made no such claim of "shocking the world for centuries to come".

It’s likely there are lefties disappointed this morning that Iran did not follow through. Reason? Donald Trump.

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2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

It’s likely there are lefties disappointed this morning that Iran did not follow through. Reason? Donald Trump.

What threat? What can Iran do? 

 

If we bomb them what is this 'wider conflict" people are talking about? 

 

Iran is super weak right now. Heck, even their own people hate that regime 

 

Bomb them 

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45 minutes ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Your sarcasm is adorable, but let’s please try to stay on topic. Polling data suggests that older conservative men, more or less, are the one demographic holdout in majority support of both neocon foreign policies and the state of Israel. Let’s call this the “Leh-nerd Skin-erd Demographic,” or “LSD” for short.

 

As this group’s representative, could you perhaps explain why the LSD may be so dissociated from reality, present AND past? All of us young whippersnappers promise to step off your lawn if you can lend insight into your group’s apparent majority support for the following ethical quandaries: government claims involving WMD’s, regime change wars, preemptive military strikes, collective punishment, ethnic cleansing, genocide, and apartheid states.

 

My perceived arrogance, by the way, stems from a strong understanding of this broad topic. If you see faults in my line of thinking, by all means point them out! Such verbal back-and-forth forms the basis of what linguistic scholars call a “discussion.” Try it, bruh.

 

Oh, and yes I am most certainly “buttoned up for reals.” Sartorial fastening is a trivial endeavor for any vegan with a 19.3 BMI.

 

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Please, Kay, refer to my original post.  There’s no discussion to have—I acknowledged your very astute takedown of the boomer gen, and the transformation to love, respect and tolerance thereafter.  I’m in the zone today and would appreciate the tolerance your generation is famous for—I’ve got my relaxation mix playing in the cassette deck.  A little classical music, the obligatory 70s and 80s soft rock, a bit of alternative and finishing strong with some uplifting rap, M and M (I think that’s how he spells it) and later. Let’s let this be a bullying free zone. 
 

Congrats on the BMI, btw, I bet that’s the result of hard work, attention to fitness, and munching those plants.  It should be a source of pride for you.    I don’t pay a tremendous amount of attention to that, but could stand to shed a few pounds. I checked today—assuming the internet calculator is correct, I’m rocking a 24.8, just shy of fat boy city.  Chubby side of average. Big boned+ (there’s crude joke in here for people of my generation, but likely not for the enlightened class). Long in the waist. Interestingly, though, after my recent physical, I used the “real age” calculator on my health insurance website and my levels suggest I’m 7 or 8 years younger than my actual age.  Ok, it was 5 years but still, I’m not actually even a boomer, maybe!  
 

Oh, one small course correct—the lawn thing.  We (all of us, obviously) typically become angry only when it’s “kids” on the lawn, not fully developed folks presumably not too too far off from middle age.  Typically for the latter, it’s some version of physical/emotional impairment, substance abuse etc that leads them to violate the norms of civilized society—better to just contact local law enforcement and keep the peace. There is some tolerance here if the offender is smoking hot based on modern societal standards of course, but that happens rarely, I think. 

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I am still praying people. As an onlooker this situation  needs stamina and perseverance.

 

And the wisdom to know that my worry won't make a Bleep of difference in the end. 

 

The gauntlet has been dropped  by the USA.  I actually think they best believe that we aren't playing.

 

all this sword rattling going on though

 

I don t like it. But I want that regime to be OVER

 

so Im torn. and watchful with prayer for the INNOCENTS

 

LHM

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