Joe Brady says Dalton "lived here this offseason"

[Buffalo716]

4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

We actually got a pretty good look at Mahomes' routine, plan, and activities in the Netflix "Quarterbacks" show. It was beyond impressive. While I am not criticizing Josh, or questioning his work ethic, I don't see how it could be at the same level.

 

For example, Mahomes built a facility in KC and moved his long time personal trainer to KC. If Josh was doing something like that, we'd know it.

 

Again, I'm not questioning or criticizing Josh. But I dont think the effort/dedication/whatever you want to call it is the same. Could certainly be wrong. Maybe Josh is doing everything Mahomes is and we just dont see it. But Mahomes' level would be difficult for ANYONE to match.

I think that facility is a training area at mahomes's mansion ..  and it's certainly not better than whatever the bills have at their adpro sports training complex where players can live in the off-season basically

 

Josh Allen is known around the NFL has having a supreme world class work ethic.. and I'm pretty sure he has a training area at his Mansion too and a film room so he can watch whenever

 

You Don't go from unranked zero Star high School recruit to a kid who is supposed to be potentially be the number one pick 

 

Basically corrected all of his flaws that he had coming into the league and became a superstar 

 

He 100% bust his ass as much as any player including Patrick mahomes who also plays golf and does stuff 

 

Bobby stroupe is also the personal trainer for mahomes you're talking about.. he's not a quarterback coach or a football trainer he's a physical trainer who's been working with mahomes since he was 9.. and if I'm being honest I'm also pretty sure Patrick mahomes is hobbling six weeks into every season...  His body is always breaking down

 

 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 09:01 PM by Buffalo716

[3rdand12]

4 hours ago, Direhard Fan said:

I've been a fan since 1960.  Be 80 the 14th.  Yup like Trump.  Don't have many left so we better win the super bowl soon.  On the other hand it is what keeps me alive.  I can wait I guess. 

Hang in there Pops ! We need ya 👍😇

 Go Bills !

2 hours ago, SoTier said:

Well, I got your fandom beat by considerably more than 20 years, but you sound the cranky senior with a sour view of all humanity younger than you and your cronies. 

You have no idea what Brady or Mahomes' work ethics were/are compared to Allen's.  You just want to diss Allen because the Bills didn't make the Super Bowl, you're still po'd and you need another scapegoat because Kincaid and Coleman have already been burnt to a crisp.

 

 

 

 

 

Our friend  (Gugny) here does on occasion , like to stir the sauce. 

[Gugny]

5 hours ago, sirebors said:

 

It might be time for somebody to get a life. And let Josh live his. He just got married for Christ's sake. 

It’s been seven years, lime juice. 

5 hours ago, eball said:

 

To imply -- no, directly say -- that Josh Allen doesn't work as hard as he could or should when you have presented no evidence to back it up is quite ballsy.  Care to explain?

 

Im sure the reports of him not watching film, spending too much time on the links and working on his Hollywood image have been false reports. 
 

Just like Kelly didn’t beat up women and just like the Super Bowl era bills didn’t lose four straight because they were hungover. 
 

It’s always someone else’s fault. 
 

Yawn. 

[DrDawkinstein]

3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I think that facility is a training area at mahomes's mansion ..  and it's certainly not better than whatever the bills have at their adpro sports training complex where players can live in the off-season basically

 

Josh Allen is known around the NFL has having a supreme world class work ethic.. and I'm pretty sure he has a training area at his Mansion too and a film room so he can watch whenever

 

You Don't go from unranked zero Star high School recruit to a kid who is supposed to be potentially be the number one pick 

 

Basically corrected all of his flaws that he had coming into the league and became a superstar 

 

He 100% bust his ass as much as any player including Patrick mahomes who also plays golf and does stuff 

 

Bobby stroupe is also the personal trainer for mahomes you're talking about.. he's not a quarterback coach or a football trainer he's a physical trainer who's been working with mahomes since he was 9.. and if I'm being honest I'm also pretty sure Patrick mahomes is hobbling six weeks into every season...  His body is always breaking down

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, Josh was absolutely putting in a ton of work in the offseasons his first few seasons. Recreating himself as a passer from scratch, basically.

[RunTheBall]

IDK, 2 years in a row in the elimination game Josh hit receivers in the hands with potential game winning potential and both dropped them. 

 

The difference between Buffalo and KC is that KC’s role players show up in the playoffs and most of our stars sht the bed. Groot was an abomination against KC, Oliver didn’t suck but he didn’t make a difference. Non-Miller was MIA as usual, Jones was meh at best. Despite that, Josh had the ball at the end of the game with the chance to take the lead AGAIN, yet Cook wasn’t on the field and Kincaid (despite having no legs) dropped a ball that hit him in the hands.

 

I don’t think Josh is the problem in the playoffs. Someone else needs to make a play just once

 

[Gugny]

28 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Josh Allen literally as a film room built into his mansion 

 

Yeah I think it's a crock of s*** when people say he doesn't watch film when he built a film lab into his house

 

And he certainly is not Hollywood.. I don't see him on many commercials or movies or TV 

 

I see Patrick mahomes more

Because Mahomes WINS. 

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

Josh does nothing but put his team in a position to win as much as any quarterback ever has

Playoffs say differently.  
 

We had the ball last. It was in his hands. He failed.  

[Gugny]

8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Josh has better career playoff stats than Tom Brady per game 

 

 I've watched Tom Brady not get the game-winning drive plenty of times in his career 

 

Jesus Christ this place is terrible in the off-season 

 

Patrick mahomes is Peyton Manning and  his body is breaking down well before Josh Allen's will...

 

Josh will be slinging footballs at 39 Patrick mahomes will not.. and we are going to win with Josh Allen 

 

I'd go out on a limb and say Josh Allen is going to have the most touchdowns in NFL history when he retires... I've been saying it for years 

 

Josh is consistently getting better mahomes is getting stagnant.. mahomes is not better than he was 3 years ago.. Allen is

 

 

Personal stats are fantastic. 
 

They garner neat things like personal trophies. 
 

You can’t compare Josh Allen to Patrick Mahomes. 
 

You ABSOLUTELY can’t compare Josh Allen to Tom Brady. 
 

Laughable. 
 

Those guys didn’t want excuses. They wanted to win. And they won. Because they wanted it more than anyone else. 
 

Can you even fathom Mahomes or Brady quitting like Josh Allen did against the Bengals in the playoffs??

 

I can’t. 

 

[Gugny]

15 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Gotcha so you think Josh Allen doesn't want to win .. the guy who went from zero star recruit to Hall of famer

 

I'll now ignore everything you ever post.. have a good life Debbie Downer 

 

Don't need to respond because I'm putting you on ignore lmao

 

I never said he doesn’t want to win. 

You knew that. 
 

I’m not a downer.  I’m observant. And I refuse to keep making excuses. 
 

He doesn’t have WRs. 
He doesn’t have a running game. 
The coaches suck. 
The other teams are cheating. 
It’s the refs.
 

Blah f*cking blah.
 

He needs to work harder.
 

That’s it.  

 

[MikePJ76]

Man you guys are letting this one poster get your goat in this thread.  
 

just ignore it and move on.  The posts are comical.

[Thurman#1]

12 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

Good to see you, Thurm.

 

Frankly, I've forgotten about last season, and I'd forgotten about that play until I saw the discussion here.  

 

I saw it like you did.  It was one of those plays where, if you want to win championships, you need someone to make a play.  Josh didn't, and Kincaid didn't.  It was a tough, tough throw under the circumstances, but one that Josh needed to make it better. If he'd made a better throw, none of us would have been surprised. We would have said "Incredible Throw!" but wouldn't have been surprised.

 

And it was a tough, tough catch, particularly as we know now Kincaid was playing without his usual mobility. If he'd made the catch, none of us would have been surprised. We would have said "Great Catch!' but we wouldn't have been surprised. 

 

Eli made an incredible throw, and his man made an incredible catch, to beat the Patriots. Edelman picked a ball of the ground to win some big game. We came name a dozen of those plays.  Making the play and not is the difference between winning championships and knowing that you let one get away. 

 

 

 

Can't say it better than that, Shaw. I agree with every word.

 

So frigging close, but it didn't happen.

 

13 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

JA has not been the issue in the playoffs.  It's been the D, and WR who can't get open.  

 

 

He certainly hasn't been "the" issue.

 

But even though he has overall played terrific, he's been part of the problem. Not "the" problem, but part of it. Look at the first two or three drives last year in that Chiefs game. Josh was awful. Yeah, he played really well after that, but if he'd played at the same level the whole game we're in the Super Bowl.

Edited yesterday at 04:38 AM by Thurman#1

[Thurman#1]

4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Yeah, Josh was absolutely putting in a ton of work in the offseasons his first few seasons. Recreating himself as a passer from scratch, basically.

 

 

Agreed that in the first few seasons he worked like a dog.

 

Sure looked like after he'd made it he took his foot off the gas a bit. That interview on Bussin' with the Boys podcast did not look like or sound like a man working hard in the offseason. Not even close to Tom Brady or Peyton Manning hard, anyway.

 

Having said that, it sure looks to me like he noticed it and consciously got the fire lit under his butt again. Pure guesswork but it looked to me like Hailee has been a really good influence on him, and that his earlier breakup with his high school girlfriend might maybe have thrown him for a loop, but as I say, that's all pure speculation.

[Thurman#1]

3 hours ago, Gugny said:

I never said he doesn’t want to win. 

You knew that. 
 

I’m not a downer.  I’m observant. And I refuse to keep making excuses. 
 

He doesn’t have WRs. 
He doesn’t have a running game. 
The coaches suck. 
The other teams are cheating. 
It’s the refs.
 

Blah f*cking blah.
 

He needs to work harder.
 

That’s it.  

 

 

 

That's not it.

 

That's maybe a part of it, but only a part. And he has been working harder again in the last year or two, from the evidence anyway.

 

And that he "quit" against the Bengals is pure personal opinion, and in my own personal opinion, a dumb one. Not playing very well isn't quitting.

 

 

4 hours ago, Gugny said:

Playoffs say differently.  
 

We had the ball last. It was in his hands. He failed.  

 

 

He failed. They failed.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 04:59 AM by Thurman#1

[eball]

10 hours ago, Gugny said:

Im sure the reports of him not watching film, spending too much time on the links and working on his Hollywood image have been false reports. 

 

Some people just like to watch the world burn…

 

[eball]

5 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

He certainly hasn't been "the" issue.

 

But even though he has overall played terrific, he's been part of the problem. Not "the" problem, but part of it. Look at the first two or three drives last year in that Chiefs game. Josh was awful. Yeah, he played really well after that, but if he'd played at the same level the whole game we're in the Super Bowl.

 

Josh has admitted that he gets too “hyped up” at the start of big games.  That’s not a “didn’t work hard enough” or “doesn’t care enough” issue…if anything it’s the opposite.  I just think the amount of supposition and guesswork in this discussion is nauseating.  There are SO MANY factors that have to fall into place to win a Super Bowl.  Just think of all of the “lucky” breaks Brady and Mahomes have gotten along the way that Josh hasn’t.

 

Josh is one of the best playoff QBs in NFL history.  I don’t care that the last two seasons the offense didn’t get it done at the end; they missed a FG and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball.  KC ran a blitz look they hadn’t shown all night on the last play — is that because Josh didn’t work hard enough?  Good grief.

 

I really don’t care whether Josh watches more film than anyone in the NFL.  He obviously takes care of himself and has worked his a$$ off to transform his game year after year.

 

The “Mahomes wants it more” takes are ridiculous.

 

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Agreed that in the first few seasons he worked like a dog.

 

Sure looked like after he'd made it he took his foot off the gas a bit. That interview on Bussin' with the Boys podcast did not look like or sound like a man working hard in the offseason. Not even close to Tom Brady or Peyton Manning hard, anyway.

 

Having said that, it sure looks to me like he noticed it and consciously got the fire lit under his butt again. Pure guesswork but it looked to me like Hailee has been a really good influence on him, and that his earlier breakup with his high school girlfriend might maybe have thrown him for a loop, but as I say, that's all pure speculation.

 

I think it is beyond question at this point that Josh's personal life spilled out onto the field at the end of the 2022 season and into the early weeks of the 2023 season. He looked and played like a guy whose mind was cluttered and he sounded vacant in press conferences - who can forget his "same sh*t different day" reaction to his meltdown at the Jets week 1 of 2023? It is clear to me that his relationship with Hailee has been a stabilising and settling influence on him and he played in 2024 as focussed as I have ever seen him - it showed in the decision making. 

 

We have a tendency to think of football players as robots, unaffected the things that affect us mere mortals in our daily lives. Or to think that money buys happiness and therefore they have no right to be affected by personal / relationship concerns. Neither of those views are true or indeed fair. 

[Billy Claude]

15 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I think that facility is a training area at mahomes's mansion ..  and it's certainly not better than whatever the bills have at their adpro sports training complex where players can live in the off-season basically

 

Josh Allen is known around the NFL has having a supreme world class work ethic.. and I'm pretty sure he has a training area at his Mansion too and a film room so he can watch whenever

 

You Don't go from unranked zero Star high School recruit to a kid who is supposed to be potentially be the number one pick 

 

 

 

Is this true?  Not whether Allen does or does not have supreme world ethic but whether that Allen is known around the NFL as an incredibly hard worker.   Outside of the lock-down year when he was 24/7 with Palmer, I don't remember a large number of stories from the national media about how hard he works.  I do remember stories about how competitive he is but that is not necessarily the same as working hard at it. 

 

The only stories that I recall (post-lockdown) are the ones where he said he doesn't watch too much film and some talking head comments that he relies too much on his talent and not enough in preparation. Again, I am not questioning whether he works and prepares hard but whether that is his image around the NFL.

 

Edited yesterday at 11:46 AM by Billy Claude

[Chandler#81]

11 hours ago, Gugny said:

Playoffs say differently.  
 

We had the ball last. It was in his hands. He failed.  

Yet, for the 2nd time Allen & Mahomes met in the playoffs, the League quickly instituted new rules before another regular season game was played to remove the unfair practices that led directly to KC wins. Both teams get a possession in OT and the ball now has a chip in it to accurately mark where the ball needs needs to be placed. It’s more than safe to assume we win at least one of these games. 
But HEY! Don’t stop now. You’re on a roll!

[ddaryl]

On 6/3/2025 at 1:01 PM, transient said:

I mean, if he turns sideways you might not even see him...

If he turned sideways and stuck out his tongue,... he'd be a zipper [/jk]

Edited yesterday at 12:42 PM by ddaryl

[Gugny]

35 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Yet, for the 2nd time Allen & Mahomes met in the playoffs, the League quickly instituted new rules before another regular season game was played to remove the unfair practices that led directly to KC wins. Both teams get a possession in OT and the ball now has a chip in it to accurately mark where the ball needs needs to be placed. It’s more than safe to assume we win at least one of these games. 
But HEY! Don’t stop now. You’re on a roll!

Excuses.