10/6/2024 - Bills at Texans post game thread.

[QCity]

I have a dream that one day, Curtis Samuel will catch a ball downfield.

 

I know, I know, I'm being crazy.

[butch rolle]

I know there are bigger issues to talk about from this game than kickers but hear me out...  When was the last time an opposing kicker missed one at the end of the game?  Didn't most of you feel that the 59 yarder was almost a foregone conclusion?  It was reminiscent of last year when the Bills had the Eagles dead to rights when Jake Elliot banged a 59 yarder into a driving rain to send the game into overtime.  

[The Helmet of]

  On 10/7/2024 at 2:55 AM, butch rolle said:

I know there are bigger issues to talk about from this game than kickers but hear me out...  When was the last time an opposing kicker missed one at the end of the game?  Didn't most of you feel that the 59 yarder was almost a foregone conclusion?  It was reminiscent of last year when the Bills had the Eagles dead to rights when Jake Elliot banged a 59 yarder into a driving rain to send the game into overtime.  

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Anything under 70 yards is automatic for most kickers.

[Niagara Dude]

  On 10/7/2024 at 1:51 AM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Maybe *you* should do some research, bud.

 

 

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Does anyone really believe Allen is this bad or maybe he just has a trash group of receivers that cannot create separation,  I pick the later

[bouds]

  On 10/7/2024 at 2:59 AM, Niagara Dude said:

Does anyone really believe Allen is this bad or maybe he just has a trash group of receivers that cannot create separation,  I pick the later

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I mean he’s had worse wrs and played better than he did today so…..Lot of blame to go around. I mean he had Kincaid open deep and underthrew it, and could have made a better throw on the deep throw to Hollins.

[Shortchaz]

  On 10/7/2024 at 2:59 AM, Niagara Dude said:

Does anyone really believe Allen is this bad or maybe he just has a trash group of receivers that cannot create separation,  I pick the later

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He’s not that bad, but he’s streaky and has things he could improve. He needs to take ownership of the offense, that’s what he’s paid to do and should be doing at the highest level at this point in his career. 

[butch rolle]

  On 10/7/2024 at 3:03 AM, bouds said:

I mean he’s had worse wrs and played better than he did today so…..Lot of blame to go around. I mean he had Kincaid open deep and underthrew it, and could have made a better throw on the deep throw to Hollins.

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Allen definitely was forcing the issue with trying to stretch the field.  That being said, the deep pass to Hollins seemed to be spot on.  Hollins appeared to lose track of the ball or pull up for some inexplicable reason.

[BillsFan130]

  On 10/7/2024 at 2:59 AM, Niagara Dude said:

Does anyone really believe Allen is this bad or maybe he just has a trash group of receivers that cannot create separation,  I pick the later

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Today was both. Josh was off, but ya it's definitely an issue with the receivers not creating separation.

 

Im the biggest Josh supporter, but he missed some passes he usually makes in his sleep today 

[DapperCam]

  On 10/7/2024 at 3:03 AM, bouds said:

I mean he’s had worse wrs and played better than he did today so…..Lot of blame to go around. I mean he had Kincaid open deep and underthrew it, and could have made a better throw on the deep throw to Hollins.

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Has he had worse WRs? I think today's star studded WR lineup is probably the same as the Kelvin Benjamin, Andre Holmes, Charles Clay days.

[bouds]

  On 10/7/2024 at 3:08 AM, DapperCam said:

Has he had worse WRs? I think today's star studded WR lineup is probably the same as the Kelvin Benjamin, Andre Holmes, Charles Clay days.

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Don't forget Zay Jones, lol.

 

I mean at this point I think this group is a little better than that one, but man, we are in bad shape if we're comparing this group to that group.  Remember when this front office traded for Matthews?  Jesus they can't scout WR.

[reddogblitz]

  On 10/6/2024 at 8:18 PM, Matt_In_NH said:

I guess you could have bled the timeouts but then we would  be hearing about conservative coaching.  

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Yeah I thought we didn't like Coach McDermott cuz he's too conservative.

[GolfandBills]

  On 10/7/2024 at 2:59 AM, Niagara Dude said:

Does anyone really believe Allen is this bad or maybe he just has a trash group of receivers that cannot create separation,  I pick the later

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Today it was both.  

[BillsDiehard]

Just watched McDermott's press conference, not very inspiring! He's a good not great coach that makes way too many coaching errors at this stage in his coaching career. So frustrating at how many opportunities have been squandered....

[reddogblitz]

  On 10/6/2024 at 8:18 PM, The Wiz said:

With a bunch of guys that should be bagging groceries.  Reminds me of 2018.

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Reminds me of the guys we used to trot out in the Coach Gailey era.  Donald Jones, Stevie Johnson, Roscoe Parrish, TJ Graham, etc

[Dick_Cheney]

Pretty much all I've been thinking after these last two games, but especially after today's game, is that it sure seems like that Josh is feeling the "I have to do this all myself" sort of thing again. And nothing good will come from that. I don't know if we need better coaching, a better member of the O-line, or a true WR1, but we sure as hell need something and we need it soon.

[GolfandBills]

  On 10/7/2024 at 3:36 AM, BillsDiehard said:

Just watched McDermott's press conference, not very inspiring! He's a good not great coach that makes way too many coaching errors at this stage in his coaching career. So frustrating at how many opportunities have been squandered....

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He’s a good football coach no doubt but a horrible game day coach.  He’s blown too many games with stupid stupid decisions 

[Sojourner]

  On 10/7/2024 at 3:38 AM, reddogblitz said:

 

Reminds me of the guys we used to trot out in the Coach Gailey era.  Donald Jones, Stevie Johnson, Roscoe Parrish, TJ Graham, etc

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Stevie could get separation. Very well. The rest of the group? Oooof. 

[iwishitwerecolder]

Did Allen play bad today? Yes. Does it help we had Stevie wonder at head coach today. No.

[Bob in STL]

  On 10/7/2024 at 3:46 AM, Dick_Cheney said:

Pretty much all I've been thinking after these last two games, but especially after today's game, is that it sure seems like that Josh is feeling the "I have to do this all myself" sort of thing again. And nothing good will come from that. I don't know if we need better coaching, a better member of the O-line, or a true WR1, but we sure as hell need something and we need it soon.

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We need a #1 WR most desperately.  Shakir is a very good #3 slot guy that could be an ok #2.  Coleman can make some plays.  The rest are non factors. 

[Bruffalo]

  On 10/7/2024 at 3:59 AM, iwishitwerecolder said:

Did Allen play bad today? Yes. Does it help we had Stevie wonder at head coach today. No.

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It feels like Allen is hesitating because he can’t trust the guys out there, and he isn’t wrong, they are almost all WR6 on other teams.

 

Coleman and Shakir are the only exceptions, and Coleman is too new to be relied on and Shakir is a high end slot WR. 

Edited October 7, 2024 by Bruffalo