Richard Noggin Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Bunch of weak-arse constitutions on display, predictably, from Bills fans here. I know the KC x Worthy trade really strains credulity, but it MUST mean Beane didn't value that player at that pick. Then the Car x Legette trade further twists the anti (fan)-consensus WR knife. But again, Beane isn't pulling that trigger blindly. He's obviously trying to recoup value at a spot where he sees a lack of it. So he disagrees with most of us that Worthy or Legette were worthy of picks 28 or 32, respectively, for the Bills. I was mostly in the pro-Worthy and pro-Legette camps, in the spirit of full disclosure. I think we've finally entered the Josh Allen franchise QB cap hit era where YoY draft capital is more valuable than need-based fan consensus. The only scenario where trading back was acceptable to me was with these very minimal moves. That way, Troy Franklin is still available and we've recouped a 3rd (for a 4th) and turned a late 5th into an early 4th, among other moves. OR another trade-back is available for even better value because pick #33 is a power pick in that regard. Who knows? (of course it's also possible that Beane gave KC their next dynamic WR weapon to pair with the QB we also gave them.) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Low Positive Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: The problem with hin is Diabetes. Not that he had it, but that he doesn't treat it seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, Low Positive said: The problem with hin is Diabetes. Not that he had it, but that he doesn't treat it seriously. all I know is he produced in Big games for Georgia and Texas. He’s a prototype 1 with 4.34 speed. Steve Smith has him as a Top 5 WR in the class and Cosell raved about him saying Top 10 NFL WR potential 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: all I know is he produced in Big games for Georgia and Texas. He’s a prototype 1 with 4.34 speed. Maybe that's what they see and the diabetes is working to their advantage. I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warriorspikes51 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 AD Mitchell’s route change ups and footwork looks extremely unpredictable and therefore difficult to defend …only 1 drop in 2023 and I believe I saw he had the most plays where he was open for huge gains but not targeted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Ralonzo said: Potential trade downs from 33 with equivalent Rich Hill chart value (like the 2 previous moves) 33 + 128 to Washington for 36 + 100 33 + 204 to Carolina (lol) for 39 + 101 33 to Washington for 40 + 100 33 + 163 to Green Bay for 41 + 88 33 + 163 to Houston for 42 + 86 33 + 144 to Atlanta for 43 + 79 (didn't double check what Buffalo already traded away... tired!) 33 to Washington for 40&100 would be nice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I just want to say that everybody who's crying about trading to the Kansas City Chiefs This is not like when we traded with them and they took Patrick mahomes We have a big value at wide receiver... And the fact we let two teams come up and take them.. show we did not value those guys enough to pull the trigger Now our front office is not perfect... But it has done a good enough job turning this franchise around to where I trust them And Worthy is not Tyreek Hill.. he's 163 lb soaking wet and Elam who is the site's whipping boy.. will have no problem taking him out of a game I'm not worried about him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 29 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: all I know is he produced in Big games for Georgia and Texas. He’s a prototype 1 with 4.34 speed. Steve Smith has him as a Top 5 WR in the class and Cosell raved about him saying Top 10 NFL WR potential His ceiling is as high as anybody's in this draft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Sleeper pick: Tez Walker 👍 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, JaCrispy said: Sleeper pick: Tez Walker 👍 Please not at 33 7 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: His ceiling is as high as anybody's in this draft. Big TD’s against Bama with Georgia and Texas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Thank you for posting. I was just figuring the difference and you saved me a lot of work. I think Beane did good IF he is getting his WR with pick #33 that he would have taken at 28. Not even concerned if we go defense at 33…still plenty of depth to get good value at WR…👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Mitchell played in five College Football Playoff games over his career (Texas and Georgia) and scored a touchdown in all five of them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 A lot of People crying over worthy are the same ones who didn’t want him to begin with. People just like to B word 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I’m just not cool with letting Worthy fall directly to Mahomes. Oh hey, he’s good enough for the best QB in the league, but he’s not good enough for our guy? What effing planet are we on They better get Franklin at this point. No diamond in the rough bull####. Get the proven man. Franklin and McConk are it, Go get them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, Putin said: Pitchforks are getting polished as we speak So, that’s what the kids are calling it these days…😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, Nelius said: I’m just not cool with letting Worthy fall directly to Mahomes. Oh hey, he’s good enough for the best QB in the league, but he’s not good enough for our guy? What effing planet are we on They better get Franklin at this point. No diamond in the rough bull####. Get the proven man. Franklin and McConk are it, Go get them lol no one is proven in the NFL yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: My dream is Coleman and Franklin tomorrow. Two WRs with different physical gifts. Plant them on the field with Josh Allen for the next 5+ years and prosper. I'm low key on the Coleman train myself. I really feel like his 40 time was just a horrible grenade that exploded his offseason. He just doesn't look that slow. And I was super impressed with his YAC ability. I feel the same way about Franklin in terms of how unwarranted their precipitous fall after the Combine was. I wonder if the Bills trade back a fee again just because they view 4 or 5 WRs with the same grade. I would be really surprised if we didn't pick WR with our next pick, though. As high as the draft world is on guys like Newton and DeJean, we just passed on them twice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: all I know is he produced in Big games for Georgia and Texas. He’s a prototype 1 with 4.34 speed. Steve Smith has him as a Top 5 WR in the class and Cosell raved about him saying Top 10 NFL WR potential 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: AD Mitchell’s route change ups and footwork looks extremely unpredictable and therefore difficult to defend …only 1 drop in 2023 and I believe I saw he had the most plays where he was open for huge gains but not targeted 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Mitchell played in five College Football Playoff games over his career (Texas and Georgia) and scored a touchdown in all five of them Please stop frantically posting about Mitchell. Beane has passed on moving up for or selecting all the WR's you've obsessed over all offseason. I'd like us to take him, but I worry that if he gets wind you're on the Mitchell train this hard now - it won't happen 😜 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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