transplantbillsfan Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 You can watch the episode with his explanation of it here, but right below the video I posted the link to his Google Doc that shows both his horizontal and vertical draft boards. As he says in the video, the horizontal one may be most interesting and relevant because it breaks players down into tiers.: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d6y5YK7S5pN8WgqF5t6qJSvpyQsA44hDkts8hPHDDSs/htmlview# He only did 170 players this year because he only had 5 months to do it, unlike previous years where he does it year round. Might be a good tool to look at on draft night. 6 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NI Bills Fan Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Thanks OP. I listened to the episode earlier (audio only) so it's good to actually see the board 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 It was a tough listen on only audio as it was hard to follow along, but probably way better on youtube. Thanks for sharing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 He lost me with Xavier Leggette as round 1 and the 4th receiver on the board over Brian Thomas Jr. I've watched a lot of these and nobody has ever been that high on Leggette. It reminds me of when Chris Trepasso had Mason Rudolph as his QB1 and said he would be the next Marino. I think these guys try to be controversial on purpose so if it pans out then they look smart 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 13 minutes ago, NI Bills Fan said: Thanks OP. I listened to the episode earlier (audio only) so it's good to actually see the board 👍 10 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: It was a tough listen on only audio as it was hard to follow along, but probably way better on youtube. Thanks for sharing Yeah, I listened this morning thinking he'd go through the players, but he didn't. Still, it was good to listen to it first and then look at the document to view all the players themselves. 6 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: He lost me with Xavier Leggette as round 1 and the 4th receiver on the board over Brian Thomas Jr. I've watched a lot of these and nobody has ever been that high on Leggette. It reminds me of when Chris Trepasso had Mason Rudolph as his QB1 and said he would be the next Marino. I think these guys try to be controversial on purpose so if it pans out then they look smart @GunnerBill also has Leggette as his 4th WR, from what I can remember. Plus, there's been a lot of talk among the media that Leggette could slip into round 1. What that likely means is that while the national media has one perspective on him, NFL teams have another. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 11 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: He lost me with Xavier Leggette as round 1 and the 4th receiver on the board over Brian Thomas Jr. I've watched a lot of these and nobody has ever been that high on Leggette. It reminds me of when Chris Trepasso had Mason Rudolph as his QB1 and said he would be the next Marino. I think these guys try to be controversial on purpose so if it pans out then they look smart I was actually excited to watch until you told me this. That’s laughable and not worth my time 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 22 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: He lost me with Xavier Leggette as round 1 and the 4th receiver on the board over Brian Thomas Jr. I've watched a lot of these and nobody has ever been that high on Leggette. It reminds me of when Chris Trepasso had Mason Rudolph as his QB1 and said he would be the next Marino. I think these guys try to be controversial on purpose so if it pans out then they look smart 11 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: I was actually excited to watch until you told me this. That’s laughable and not worth my time Can I ask you guys why you think Xavier Leggette is so clearly not a 1st rounder? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 27 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: He lost me with Xavier Leggette as round 1 and the 4th receiver on the board over Brian Thomas Jr. I've watched a lot of these and nobody has ever been that high on Leggette. It reminds me of when Chris Trepasso had Mason Rudolph as his QB1 and said he would be the next Marino. I think these guys try to be controversial on purpose so if it pans out then they look smart I personally think too many in the mock draft community are too high on Thomas. Good player, certainly. But I've said for a bit...but I'm not going to be shocked if he's not WR4 off the board on Thursday. I think he's lower on team draft boards than many would think 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 40 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: He lost me with Xavier Leggette as round 1 and the 4th receiver on the board over Brian Thomas Jr. I've watched a lot of these and nobody has ever been that high on Leggette. It reminds me of when Chris Trepasso had Mason Rudolph as his QB1 and said he would be the next Marino. I think these guys try to be controversial on purpose so if it pans out then they look smart Not everyone has players ranked in the same order. Take it for what it’s worth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Who wants the Bills to take Dejean at 28 … even if he is the best player left on the board ? Not me… not this year … 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 50 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: He lost me with Xavier Leggette as round 1 and the 4th receiver on the board over Brian Thomas Jr. I've watched a lot of these and nobody has ever been that high on Leggette. It reminds me of when Chris Trepasso had Mason Rudolph as his QB1 and said he would be the next Marino. I think these guys try to be controversial on purpose so if it pans out then they look smart I don't think Legette is out of the question in round 1. The draftniks work in that space for a reason, and the scouts, talent evaluators and personnel guys work on teams for a reason - they are the pros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 6 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Who wants the Bills to take Dejean at 28 … even if he is the best player left on the board ? Not me… not this year … What would you want to see in that situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 18 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Can I ask you guys why you think Xavier Leggette is so clearly not a 1st rounder? If he was a round 1 guy he would have destroyed the competition at the senior bowl. He did not. He had 5 years in college and was only good for 1 of those years when by then he was 2-3 years older and more seasoned than everyone else. He has had a lot of drops. I think he can be a faster Gabe Davis type. Would you use a 1st round pick on Gabe Davis? I like him but not in round 1. To me he's a 2nd rounder 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 6 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: What would you want to see in that situation? Pick someone else or trade down… So you would take him ? I’m not knocking him as a player … but just think they might easier get by with a later pick at Safety …then a couple of other positions where that have some need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam727 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 13 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Who wants the Bills to take Dejean at 28 … even if he is the best player left on the board ? Not me… not this year … Only if they think he's a starting CB in the NFL. The Bills are in salary cap jail for the next few years, early picks should be WR, DLine, OT, CB. If he's the best player left on their board and they think he'll translate to CB in the NFL it wouldn't be my first choice but I wouldn't hate it. Safeties are cheap enough in FA that even though it's a big need, I'd be disappointed with a Safety in round 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: If he was a round 1 guy he would have destroyed the competition at the senior bowl. He did not. He had 5 years in college and was only good for 1 of those years when by then he was 2-3 years older and more seasoned than everyone else. He has had a lot of drops. I think he can be a faster Gabe Davis type. Would you use a 1st round pick on Gabe Davis? I like him but not in round 1. To me he's a 2nd rounder Wasn’t there some rumours that he was ill at the Senior Bowl? He was pretty ordinary on that first day of practice I recall … Im not as high on him either … might have the “high ceiling “ … but that could be a few years off … move up in the second for him … no problem there if that’s what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Pick someone else or trade down… So you would take him ? I’m not knocking him as a player … but just think they might easier get by with a later pick at Safety …then a couple of other positions where that have some need I was just curious what you would do is all. He's growing on me. I don't like even a mild reach at WR if we have the ability to add additional picks in round 2 and 3 trading back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, Mikie2times said: I was just curious what you would do is all. He's growing on me. I don't like even a mild reach at WR if we have the ability to add additional picks in round 2 and 3 trading back. It really depends on who is left … so hard for me to give a definite answer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 14 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: If he was a round 1 guy he would have destroyed the competition at the senior bowl. He did not. He had 5 years in college and was only good for 1 of those years when by then he was 2-3 years older and more seasoned than everyone else. He has had a lot of drops. I think he can be a faster Gabe Davis type. Would you use a 1st round pick on Gabe Davis? I like him but not in round 1. To me he's a 2nd rounder You're using the Senior Bowl as a measuring stick? He played in the SEC and destroyed his competition at South Carolina in 2023. The one-year-wonder conversation is more nuanced. There were a lot of circumstances involved with that, including a late shift to the position and a motorcycle accident, among other things. I'm not advocating a trade up. But I'd be happy with him at 28. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: He lost me with Xavier Leggette as round 1 and the 4th receiver on the board over Brian Thomas Jr. I've watched a lot of these and nobody has ever been that high on Leggette. It reminds me of when Chris Trepasso had Mason Rudolph as his QB1 and said he would be the next Marino. I think these guys try to be controversial on purpose so if it pans out then they look smart He had D K Metcalf at the top of round 1 his draft year also. That's him being true to his evaluation, imo. Pick a combo block, hit a seam, break an arm tackle and go. May be a great KO return guy in the new format. Edited April 23 by JESSEFEFFER 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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