Roundybout Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 16 hours ago, LEBills said: If Odunze is there at 18 I’m holding GMs at gun point for a trade up 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 13 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: I'm also very okay with McConkey as well. Its funny because we were in lockstep last year on Kincaid too when the vast majority was against that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) 13 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I am on the McConkey train. Yeah, you were one of the first around here! i was not initially, but after the Diggs trade, he’s one of a handful of guys I’d be happy with at 28. Legette Mitchell Mcconkey Worthy (don’t love him, but the elite speed could be worth rolling the dice on if he’s available). Polk- that’s my dude and he’s the best run blocker in the class. Franklin in a trade back. Pearsall in a bigger trade back Coleman in a…..ugh. Idk about Coleman, but he’s intriguing Edited April 23 by NewEra 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: Yeah, you were one of the first around here! i was not initially, but after the Diggs trade, he’s one of a handful of guys I’d be happy with at 28. Legette Mitchell Mcconkey Worthy (don’t love him, but the elite speed could be worth rolling the dice on if he’s available). Polk- that’s my dude and he’s the best run blocker in the class. Franklin in a trade back. Pearsall in a bigger trade back Coleman in a…..ugh. Idk about Coleman, but he’s intriguing I would be fine with any of the guys listed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Keep in mind, Filipponi has never gotten any rumor right. However, if this is the first time, then it would have significant draft ramifications. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 For those of us liking McConkey (among a couple other wideouts), I liked this 7 round draft with no trades. I would be very, very happy with this. Think these players would be available where I drafted them? 28 Ladd McConkey WR | Georgia A 60 Tyler Nubin S | Minnesota A+ 128 Brenden Rice WR | USC B+ 133 DeWayne Carter DL | Duke A+ 144 Zak Zinter IOL | Michigan A+ 160 Nehemiah Pritchett CB | Auburn A+ 163 McKinnley Jackson DL | Texas A&M B+ 200 Cedric Johnson EDGE | Mississippi A+ 204 Jordan Magee LB | Temple A+ 248 Cody Schrader RB | Missouri A+ 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, LEBills said: there are more rumors for other teams too https://walterfootball.com/nfl-hot-press-2024-nfl-draft-week-rumors-tuesday.php Could also be Beane just setting the stage for a trade if someone falls. I still think if Odunze makes it down to #9 he's the guy Beane will go up for. Gotta make those calls in advance so the parameters are in place. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 17 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said: For those of us liking McConkey (among a couple other wideouts), I liked this 7 round draft with no trades. I would be very, very happy with this. Think these players would be available where I drafted them? 28 Ladd McConkey WR | Georgia A 60 Tyler Nubin S | Minnesota A+ 128 Brenden Rice WR | USC B+ 133 DeWayne Carter DL | Duke A+ 144 Zak Zinter IOL | Michigan A+ 160 Nehemiah Pritchett CB | Auburn A+ 163 McKinnley Jackson DL | Texas A&M B+ 200 Cedric Johnson EDGE | Mississippi A+ 204 Jordan Magee LB | Temple A+ 248 Cody Schrader RB | Missouri A+ That would be one helluva draft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Could also be Beane just setting the stage for a trade if someone falls. I still think if Odunze makes it down to #9 he's the guy Beane will go up for. Gotta make those calls in advance so the parameters are in place. if we give up assets for Thomas im going to throw myself off a cliff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 29 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Keep in mind, Filipponi has never gotten any rumor right. However, if this is the first time, then it would have significant draft ramifications. I have seen the Steelers named a very logical destination for Aiyuk. Need, cap space, draft capital and preferred AFC destination all line up. No inside info, just makes sense. Also I’d hate it, so it’ll probably happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) Thanks bro, I have done about 10,000 of them. My wife is sick of my drafting. I liked this one 🙂 Meant as a reply to New Era's "this would be a helluva draft" Edited April 23 by MarlinTheMagician Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 https://theathletic.com/5431528/2024/04/23/nfl-draft-2024-confidential-nabers-harrison-williams/ Tons and tons of interesting insights/comments from coaches across the league. Long piece and worth your time. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 21 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Could also be Beane just setting the stage for a trade if someone falls. I still think if Odunze makes it down to #9 he's the guy Beane will go up for. Gotta make those calls in advance so the parameters are in place. Here is the deal...teams are gonna fleece Beane if he tries to tradeup. Everyone knows we want a WR, so they will jack up the trade compensation 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Just now, SoonerBillsFan said: Here is the deal...teams are gonna fleece Beane if he tries to tradeup. Everyone knows we want a WR, so they will jack up the trade compensation @SoonerBillsFan This is precisely the situation I'm worried about: Maybe getting the next great WR, but leaving the asset cupboard bare for the next couple of seasons. This is the way good teams crumble: Over-estimating their valuations, over-paying assets, and still being uncertain whether or not the player you traded up for will make the impact you believe. Sammy Watkins, anyone? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Here is the deal...teams are gonna fleece Beane if he tries to tradeup. Everyone knows we want a WR, so they will jack up the trade compensation and to me WR isn't a trade up worth position, yes Julio Jones is a great example but he's the exception not the rule. Toss in did he ultimately win the Falcons a championship? No. Honestly I'm a wait and see approach, obviously I'd love Brian Thomas Jr but he'll likely go before us but don't feel he's so much better than some of the guys behind him. Yet think a guy like AD Mitchell's stock falling and could be there, if not hope we land a quality pass rusher if not trade back and hope to get a Legette in the early 2nd and get another pick that can help. As we aren't just a WR away, we have plenty of holes on the depth chart and some of them like DL don't have as great of prospects as WR does. Also the idea of two WRs baffles me especially early, how many passes are we expecting these kids to get? As to me Kincaid, Shakier, Cook and Samuel are going to get the majority of looks this year. I'm guessing the rookie might get 80-100 targets at most. Sure I could see taking a flier on a kid in Round 6 or 7 that could also pose as a return specialist and develop yet not likely starting material. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 29 minutes ago, NewEra said: 16 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Here is the deal...teams are gonna fleece Beane if he tries to tradeup. Everyone knows we want a WR, so they will jack up the trade compensation Agree with the idea that teams will try to fleece Beane. But Beane has a counter - it is a deep draft and I am not punished that much if I wait. I am not pro trade-up, but I am hoping that if he tries Beane is too smart to get fleeced. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) 11 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said: Agree with the idea that teams will try to fleece Beane. But Beane has a counter - it is a deep draft and I am not punished that much if I wait. I am not pro trade-up, but I am hoping that if he tries Beane is too smart to get fleeced. Agreed. They can try and fleece him, but the draft class allows him to say effya. I’m pro trade up for top 3, but have zero expectations. I’m pro trade up for Thomas if he hits 22-23. I’m pro take BPA @28. I’m pro trade back as long as don’t go too far back. We have lots of good options imo. Edited April 23 by NewEra 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 15 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said: Agree with the idea that teams will try to fleece Beane. But Beane has a counter - it is a deep draft and I am not punished that much if I wait. I am not pro trade-up, but I am hoping that if he tries Beane is too smart to get fleeced. It's not really that deep at WR It's three deep for the legit talents, and then there's a falloff after that. for that reason, i advocate a trade down, see if you can pick up a second or two thirds and take your chance there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: https://theathletic.com/5431528/2024/04/23/nfl-draft-2024-confidential-nabers-harrison-williams/ Tons and tons of interesting insights/comments from coaches across the league. Long piece and worth your time. Great read, thanks. Here's some of the more interesting nuggets on top WRs: -Malik Nabers is apparently the consensus #1 over Marvin Harrison Jr. This echoes what I heard Chris Simms say the other day. Harrison is the higher floor but Nabers' explosiveness gives him a higher ceiling. Nabers comes with less discipline though. I wouldn't be surprised if Arizona still picks Harrison first just because he is such a safe pick. -The feedback on Brian Thomas Jr is surprisingly poor. Coaches talking about his lack of a route tree, lack of ball skills, lack of physicality, lack of that edge that WRs need to be elite. FWIW these are the same exact concerns I have about him. -On Xavier Worthy, a couple coaches specifically point out that he is NOT John Ross as a prospect, specifically that his route running is better. One coach says "he's really impressive to talk to" and praised his mentality. This sounds like a player Brandon Beane would love, although I doubt he makes it to #28. Edited April 23 by HappyDays 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 17 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Great read, thanks. Here's some of the more interesting nuggets on top WRs: -Malik Nabers is apparently the consensus #1 over Marvin Harrison Jr. This echoes what I heard Chris Simms say the other day. Harrison is the higher floor but Nabers' explosiveness gives him a higher ceiling. Nabers comes with less discipline though. I wouldn't be surprised if Arizona still picks Harrison first just because he is such a safe pick. -The feedback on Brian Thomas Jr is surprising poor. Coaches talking about his lack of a route tree, lack of ball skills, lack of physicality, lack of that edge that WRs need to be elite. FWIW these are the same exact concerns I have about him. -On Xavier Worthy, a couple coaches specifically point out that he is NOT John Ross as a prospect, specifically that his route running is better. One coach says "he's really impressive to talk to" and praised his mentality. This sounds like a player Brandon Beane would love, although I doubt he makes it to #28. Just wanted to reiterate all three points you just highlighted. I have believed for a couple weeks now that Nabers has a good chance to be the first WR drafted, and that many NFL teams (if not the majority) have him over MHJ. The things he does best are exactly what is en vogue in the NFL right now. I, too, have some serious concerns about BTJ. He is a height/weight/speed guy who seems to be seriously lacking in some of the most important traits and abilities that a WR can possess. I understand teams thinking they can coach him up, and obviously the physical tools are intriguing, but...he scares the bejesus out of me. I don't think he has much of a floor. I think his floor is "outright bust". And lastly, anyone who thinks Worthy is John Ross or any kind of one-trick pony just hasn't watched him much. They key is that he doesn't just have straight line speed, he also has lateral speed, quickness, and agility, and it allows him instant separation on shorter routes at times. I think he's gonna be a very good player in this league. Can't wait for draft night, and God I hope Beane and crew choose wisely from the WR pool. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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