BillsFanNC Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Unfortunately when you spend all our money fixing other countries infrastructure, we left ours to crumble. Biden is the one in charge now and this falls on his lap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, Westside said: Unfortunately when you spend all our money fixing other countries infrastructure, we left ours to crumble. Biden is the one in charge now and this falls on his lap. To be clear I am no Biden supporter. But to try to spin this to blame him is laughable. You have no idea what condition the bridge was in not to mention the fact that workers were on the bridge as it was hit and are in the water! This is why no one listens to people like you or takes you serious. Personally I am here for the entrainment because I do not care about the draft and football is boring. You did not disappoint. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Looks like a cargo ship lost power and crashed into the bridge. I’m not an engineer but I don’t think bridges are built to withstand impacts like this. But I’m sure the usual crowd will spin this into a dumb conspiracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, 4th&long said: To be clear I am no Biden supporter. But to try to spin this to blame him is laughable. You have no idea what condition the bridge was in not to mention the fact that workers were on the bridge as it was hit and are in the water! This is why no one listens to people like you or takes you serious. Personally I am here for the entrainment because I do not care about the draft and football is boring. You did not disappoint. I agree that nobody should be jumping to conclusions at this point. But you're here for the entertainment because you're bored NOW? Man that's really saying something after all that fun you had being locked down during the pandemic. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) RIP and condolences. prayers for the emergency responders. the only positive is the fact it happened in the middle of the night. At least Berkshire Hathaway (owners of Mitsui and Co.) have deep pockets. Honest question. Can a Ship be hacked? Power killed? I would imagine these floating cities have triple redundant systems in place. Edited March 26 by Tommy Callahan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 14 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: RIP and condolences. prayers for the emergency responders. the only positive is the fact it happened in the middle of the night. At least Berkshire Hathaway (owners of Mitsui and Co.) have deep pockets. Honest question. Can a Ship be hacked? Power killed? I would imagine these floating cities have triple redundant systems in place. Reports are that people saw lights flickering on and off, indicating the emergency generators were at least trying to kick on. It wasn’t a U.S. ship, I think it was en route to Sri Lanka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 13 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Reports are that people saw lights flickering on and off, indicating the emergency generators were at least trying to kick on. It wasn’t a U.S. ship, I think it was en route to Sri Lanka Philippine, but owned by a Japanese company that's largest shareholder is Berkshire. its going to be interesting to see what failures caused this. Not the first time we have seen issues with these ships. at first, my mind went right to "evergreen" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 14 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Philippine, but owned by a Japanese company that's largest shareholder is Berkshire. its going to be interesting to see what failures caused this. Not the first time we have seen issues with these ships. at first, my mind went right to "evergreen" Especially odd that it had just left port. It was like 30 minutes into a 27 day journey. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Can't believe the bridge just came down that completely. I really thought only a section would fall, but it just all came crashing down. Major reconstruction effort will be needed to get this super important bridge first removed, and then re-built. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Can't believe the bridge just came down that completely. I really thought only a section would fall, but it just all came crashing down. Major reconstruction effort will be needed to get this super important bridge first removed, and then re-built. It’s something that needs to be rebuilt, but is not “super important” as you label it. It’s the least trafficked area of the beltway around Baltimore. There are tunnels at interstate 95 and 895 that can be used as well as the beltway around the other side of town. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: It’s something that needs to be rebuilt, but is not “super important” as you label it. It’s the least trafficked area of the beltway around Baltimore. There are tunnels at interstate 95 and 895 that can be used as well as the beltway around the other side of town. At the moment the Port of Baltimore is closed. I expect until after an investigation is completed and the clasped sections of the bridge are removed from the channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said: I agree that nobody should be jumping to conclusions at this point. But you're here for the entertainment because you're bored NOW? Man that's really saying something after all that fun you had being locked down during the pandemic. I’m bored with the bills side of the message board. Don’t get carried away and spin this into something it’s not. For example, now I have to go do something and you won’t see me post here for a few hours unless I check the board on my phone. Have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 4th&long said: I’m bored with the bills side of the message board In my opinion, nothing worse than draft talk, and the worst of draft talk is the mock draft. Every year there are dozens of those by the experts, and if they're lucky they'll hit on about 4 or 5 correct picks (predicted player to predicted team). So yeah, boring. So I also wind up here a lot more after the Bills season ends ... By the way: Nicely done by Gov Wes Moore. Edited March 26 by The Frankish Reich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 8 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: In my opinion, nothing worse than draft talk, and the worst of draft talk is the mock draft. Every year there are dozens of those by the experts, and if they're lucky they'll hit on about 4 or 5 correct picks (predicted player to predicted team). So yeah, boring. So I also wind up here a lot more after the Bills season ends ... By the way: Nicely done by Gov Wes Moore. Reminds me of how accurate a lot of political polling is 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1. Prayers for all the victims and their families. 2. Sometimes a tragic accident is just that. 3. If you want to assign blame regarding the bridges condition, then don't just name Biden, but EVERY person in congress over the past few decades (all sides) With their fake infrastructure bills and their Trillion dollar budgets packed with nonsense. Wasting our money to buy votes. . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Biden and his buddies botch another. An illegal driving the boat. What a mess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 As terrible as the loss of life is, this is really a very troubling event Baltimore's is one of the biggest ports in the country. A lot of bulk freight exports originate from there. Now that port is probably closed for the foreseeable future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 5 minutes ago, Irv said: Biden and his buddies botch another. An illegal driving the boat. What a mess. Oh brother. Maybe it was Hunter Biden driving the ship trying to get away from MTG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, Tiberius said: Oh brother. Maybe it was Hunter Biden driving the ship trying to get away from MTG No. He was below decks sniffing glue with a pair of hookers. What a mess. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 13 minutes ago, BillStime said: B.S. complaining about politicizing 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 These are the same individuals who claim it's too soon to discuss guns following a mass shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3 hours ago, 4th&long said: To be clear I am no Biden supporter. But to try to spin this to blame him is laughable. You have no idea what condition the bridge was in not to mention the fact that workers were on the bridge as it was hit and are in the water! This is why no one listens to people like you or takes you serious. Personally I am here for the entrainment because I do not care about the draft and football is boring. You did not disappoint. If the dolts on the left can blame Trump for the plandemic I can blame bribem for failing to spend money on our infrastructure. 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Can't believe the bridge just came down that completely. I really thought only a section would fall, but it just all came crashing down. Major reconstruction effort will be needed to get this super important bridge first removed, and then re-built. What did you expect when we spend billions on infrastructure for other countries (which usually hate us) and practically nothing on our own? You’ve been one of the biggest cheerleaders for spending billions on Ukraine. How can you be surprised when ours start to crumble? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 23 minutes ago, BillStime said: You’re such a disgusting hypocrite. You never fail to fail. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 10 minutes ago, Westside said: If the dolts on the left can blame Trump for the plandemic I can blame bribem for failing to spend money on our infrastructure. What did you expect when we spend billions on infrastructure for other countries (which usually hate us) and practically nothing on our own? You’ve been one of the biggest cheerleaders for spending billions on Ukraine. How can you be surprised when ours start to crumble? All the spending in the world would of saved a bridge from surviving being hit by a fully loaded ship that big. You are being dumb. And Ukraine deserves our aid 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: All the spending in the world would of saved a bridge from surviving being hit by a fully loaded ship that big. You are being dumb. And Ukraine deserves our aid Ok basement engineer. I’ll take your expert opinion on it. 🙄 Screw Ukraine, start taking care of our own country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Back to the news: Ship Lost Control Before Hitting Baltimore Bridge John Konrad The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore collapsed early today after the large containerships Dali struck a primary support column. Two individuals were rescued, one is seriously injured, and authorities estimate that seven people are currently missing, though the number could be higher. This incident represents the most severe US bridge collision since the Tampa Skyway Bridge disaster in 1980. The event occurred in the early morning hours as the ship was leaving the port under pilotage. Agencies are reporting the containership Dali, which collided with a Baltimore bridge on Tuesday, “lost propulsion” while exiting the port. The crew on board alerted Maryland officials that they had lost control of the vessel, as reported by ABC News, citing an unclassified U.S. intelligence report. “The vessel notified the MD Department of Transportation (MDOT) that they had lost control and a collision with the bridge was possible,” ABC quoted the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency’s report as saying. “The vessel struck the bridge, causing a complete collapse.” According to Marine Traffic the ship departed the Seagirt Marine Terminal in the Port of Baltimore at approximately 00:30 local time, sailed northwest past the Nuclear Ship Savanah then turned southeast to depart the harbor, released the tugboats, and collided with the bridge at approximately 01:38. https://gcaptain.com/ship-lost-control-before-hitting-baltimore-bridge/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Was that bridge duct taped together? Surprising how easily the entire thing collapsed 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Maritime Journalist Shares Early Analysis of Francis Scott Key Bridge Disaster From his link: “The vessel notified the MD Department of Transportation (MDOT) that they had lost control and a collision with the bridge was possible,” ABC quoted the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency’s report as saying. “The vessel struck the bridge, causing a complete collapse.” She struck the southwest support column at a speed of 7.6 knots (8.7 MPH). Cameras from the Vessel Traffic Service captured footage of the collision and subsequent collapse. The ship’s lights went out twice before the collision, indicating possible issues in the engine room. Despite the quick restoration of lighting, this suggests a full blackout occurred, prompting the emergency generator to restore basic electrical services and lighting. Without propulsion or tugboats, a ship this size is nearly impossible to stop. The emergency generator does not connect to propulsion but should support steering and navigation systems but the ships heading appears to have been pushed off course by the wind directly into the support column. Ships are not required to have tugboat escorts when passing under the Francis Scott Key Bridge so they have limited ability to slow down on their own when they lose power and can not put the propeller into reverse. https://gcaptain.com/ship-lost-control-before-hitting-baltimore-bridge/ https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/03/26/maritime-journalist-shares-early-analysis-of-francis-scott-key-bridge-disaster-n2394406 You can read Konrad's full analysis here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, B-Man said: B.S. complaining about politicizing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Westside said: You’re such a disgusting hypocrite. You never fail to fail. Do you have short term memory issues? Is this you just fours ago in this same thread? 4 hours ago, Westside said: Unfortunately when you spend all our money fixing other countries infrastructure, we left ours to crumble. Biden is the one in charge now and this falls on his lap. Fkn hypocrite. And F your racist hero Jack Posobiec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 You've chosen to ignore content by BillStime. Options You've chosen to ignore content by BillStime. Options You've chosen to ignore content by BillStime. Options Continuing to make the thread about himself. Meanwhile: 2 Rescued After Baltimore Bridge Collapse; Sonar Detected Multiple Submerged Vehicles By Jennifer Van Laar https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2024/03/26/breaking-francis-scott-key-bridge-in-baltimore-collapses-after-container-ship-crashes-into-support-n2171921 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Biden and his buddies staged this to take heat off. What a mess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Biden is defective. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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