sherpa Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: BS. Pure bs Is the GOP Speaker of the House an appeaser? Who is responsible for sponsored attacks on the US and its servicemen? What has been done to end those attacks? What has happened to sanctions against that country, and what have been the results? Does that even matter, or is it pure ignorance of the long term results? Keep shooting $1.5 million missiles against $5k drones and more expensive, but still cheap, anti ship missiles. Keep paying the price for international commerce to go 3000 miles in addition because of threats from a surrogate trash heap. Two or three hit this week. That's what we have been seeing for the past six weeks, and that's the result of appeasement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 1 minute ago, sherpa said: Who is responsible for sponsored attacks on the US and its servicemen? What has been done to end those attacks? What has happened to sanctions against that country, and what have been the results? Does that even matter, or is it pure ignorance of the long term results? Keep shooting $1.5 million missiles against $5k drones and more expensive, but still cheap, anti ship missiles. Keep paying the price for international commerce to go 3000 miles in addition because of threats from a surrogate trash heap. Two or three hit this week. That's what we have been seeing for the past six weeks, and that's the result of appeasement. You saying Biden who has funneled billions to Ukraine, taken leadership with Israel situation and has carried out attacks in retaliation of attacks on us is appeasement? That's just silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Biden doesn’t have the support that you think he does. It’s simply a lack of options. Absolute nonsense. He doesn't need support, other than after the fact. He is an 0 for 30 year zero when it comes to foreign affairs. Wasn't ever taken seriously by Obama. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: You saying Biden who has funneled billions to Ukraine, taken leadership with Israel situation and has carried out attacks in retaliation of attacks on us is appeasement? That's just silly He is correct re Ukraine. His performance re Israel is an embarrassment. Strong initial statement, then full speed back off, even accusing them of improper strategy, of which he knew nothing. Stupid, ineffective "attacks" carried out nearly a week later, (under the cover of "we wanted to see where they'd hide), nonsense. Have the attacks stopped? Should we expect they will? They've gotten more aggressive since. Are we dealing with the problem? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, sherpa said: He is correct re Ukraine. His performance re Israel is an embarrassment. Strong initial statement, then full speed back off, even accusing them of improper strategy, of which he knew nothing. Stupid, ineffective "attacks" carried out nearly a week later, (under the cover of "we wanted to see where they'd hide), nonsense. Have the attacks stopped? Should we expect they will? They've gotten more aggressive since. Are we dealing with the problem? Ok, so he isn't an appeaser The attacks in Vietnam didn't stop. Was LBJ an appeaser? Your argument is weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ok, so he isn't an appeaser The attacks in Vietnam didn't stop. Was LBJ an appeaser? Your argument is weak LBJ was a lunatic. Should have been committed, but that's another subject, and I can link to those claims. He and Robert McNamara should have been arrested, but that was a different time and not relevant. Biden has way too much personally invested in the JCPOA, and it will never work for peace. Same as he had way too much personally invested in his stance to withdraw from Afghanistan. Obama rejected it, as he did Biden's advice to not proceed with the strike that killed Obama. He simply gets nothing right, because he is an appeaser. Everything he is doing is pointing us to further trouble. Solutions require tough decisions and short term troubles. He is incapable of that, unless maybe he is forced. That may happen, but likely not on his watch. Not that he would know anyway. He'll be busy telling us he met with Himmler to get rid of Hitler, who killed his kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 2 minutes ago, sherpa said: LBJ was a lunatic. Should have been committed, but that's another subject, and I can link to those claims. He and Robert McNamara should have been arrested, but that was a different time and not relevant. Biden has way too much personally invested in the JCPOA, and it will never work for peace. Same as he had way too much personally invested in his stance to withdraw from Afghanistan. Obama rejected it, as he did Biden's advice to not proceed with the strike that killed Obama. He simply gets nothing right, because he is an appeaser. Everything he is doing is pointing us to further trouble. Solutions require tough decisions and short term troubles. He is incapable of that, unless maybe he is forced. That may happen, but likely not on his watch. Not that he would know anyway. He'll be busy telling us he met with Himmler to get rid of Hitler, who killed his kid. LBJ was just ignorant about foreign affairs. Biden, thankfully, isn't Getting out of Afghanistan was a smart move, terrible as it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Getting out of Afghanistan was a smart move, terrible as it was A total disgrace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 6 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Like a business, huh? How many bankruptcy is this now and exactly how the ***** do you bankrupt a casino? Well Mr DS some business men which you apparently are not will purposely bankrupt a business to show a loss so that they don't have to pay as much in taxes but you follow your DS leader that you voted for & just continually loose money and continue to put the country in debt instead of separating from the leaches that feed off the American tax payer . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 4 minutes ago, T master said: Well Mr DS some business men which you apparently are not will purposely bankrupt a business to show a loss so that they don't have to pay as much in taxes but you follow your DS leader that you voted for & just continually loose money and continue to put the country in debt instead of separating from the leaches that feed off the American tax payer . In what way does this take away from the fact that Donald Trump bk several businesses? Including the casino, which is almost impossible. He said he wants to run the country like a business Edited February 27 by John from Riverside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 6 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Can you tell me something you believe that isn't a typical right wing talking point? Trump ran the country like a business alright. Like his charity he ripped off or the casino he bankrupted. National debt exploded (pre covid) and tax breaks mostly for the rich. The national debt was way out of control long before Trump ever got a hold of the check book & there wasn't 1 POTUS that could say they balanced the budget . Clinton tried but any one can cook the books to make it look good when in reality it's not . Then seeing that being a career politician as both the Clintons are they got more s**t than a christmas turkey so y'all can believe his line of crap but until i see the actual pike of cash sitting on the floor in fort knox i don't believe any of them !!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Yes, Trump single-handedly caused the National Debt. LOL! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, T master said: The national debt was way out of control long before Trump ever got a hold of the check book & there wasn't 1 POTUS that could say they balanced the budget . Clinton tried but any one can cook the books to make it look good when in reality it's not . Then seeing that being a career politician as both the Clintons are they got more s**t than a christmas turkey so y'all can believe his line of crap but until i see the actual pike of cash sitting on the floor in fort knox i don't believe any of them !!!! Ok, but You said he ran things like a business. Clearly Bs. Just an inane talking point with zero backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 14 hours ago, sherpa said: A total disgrace. How it was done, or because it was done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 10 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Ok, but You said he ran things like a business. Clearly Bs. Just an inane talking point with zero backup. The one thing i do know is from talking to people that are in VP or executive positions in some major companies in certain areas of the country that when the orange man got in office in a relatively short period of time their business over doubled and the amount of product & services that they offered they couldn't keep up with . Then along comes the pandemic which he once again didn't believe only half of what the DC cronies were telling him & wanted to and set out by giving money to figure out some kind of medical direction to go with out shutting down the economy but all for naught . The career politicians along with Faucie made up things like, the masks will help, the vaccine will (Joe Bidens quote) "If you get the vaccine you will not get the virus" Which i personally watched & listened to him say so if you defend that & say he didn't your a incompetent liar like he is . But continued with the scare tactics for control instead of as they said follow the true science . Then continued to close down businesses and killed the economy . Then when those businesses started to open up because the resilience of the American people started to realize that in part the pandemic was a farce started to reopen their businesses Biden went on to claimed that it was his "Great economic" Plan & in true form he took the credit for getting the economy back to where it was prior to the virus . Y'all can say what ever you want but i made more money & was busier than i have ever been in my industry in 2019 & those other business people i talk with on a regular basis have told me the exact same thing because of reality & that was before the current president was in office . But i guess you will now try to tell us that it was because of the great economic policies of Obama & Biden right ?? Which it wasn't terrible but wasn't nearly as good as it was in 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: How it was done, or because it was done? How it was done. Biden received advice from his JCS Chairman and Secretary of Defense to leave a small contingent there to protect our friends and take care to protect equipment. He not only didn't take that advice, he lied about receiving it. (Of course in considering his now obvious cognitive decline, he may not have been intentionally lying, he just doesn't remember extremely important advice given to him by people whom he can't recall their names). The "escape" was a gross embarrassment much, much more. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, T master said: The one thing i do know is from talking to people that are in VP or executive positions in some major companies in certain areas of the country that when the orange man got in office in a relatively short period of time their business over doubled and the amount of product & services that they offered they couldn't keep up with . Then along comes the pandemic which he once again didn't believe only half of what the DC cronies were telling him & wanted to and set out by giving money to figure out some kind of medical direction to go with out shutting down the economy but all for naught . The career politicians along with Faucie made up things like, the masks will help, the vaccine will (Joe Bidens quote) "If you get the vaccine you will not get the virus" Which i personally watched & listened to him say so if you defend that & say he didn't your a incompetent liar like he is . But continued with the scare tactics for control instead of as they said follow the true science . Then continued to close down businesses and killed the economy . Then when those businesses started to open up because the resilience of the American people started to realize that in part the pandemic was a farce started to reopen their businesses Biden went on to claimed that it was his "Great economic" Plan & in true form he took the credit for getting the economy back to where it was prior to the virus . Y'all can say what ever you want but i made more money & was busier than i have ever been in my industry in 2019 & those other business people i talk with on a regular basis have told me the exact same thing because of reality & that was before the current president was in office . But i guess you will now try to tell us that it was because of the great economic policies of Obama & Biden right ?? Which it wasn't terrible but wasn't nearly as good as it was in 2019 . The Biden economy is doing great. Love my stock market returns 1 minute ago, sherpa said: How it was done. Biden received advice from his JCS Chairman and Secretary of Defense to leave a small contingent there to protect our friends and take care to protect equipment. He not only didn't take that advice, he lied about receiving it. (Of course in considering his now obvious cognitive decline, he may not have been intentionally lying, he just doesn't remember extremely important advice given to him by people whom he can't recall their names). The "escape" was a gross embarrassment much, much more. You leave a force behind, they become targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The Biden economy is doing great. Love my stock market returns You leave a force behind, they become targets. You don’t leave a force or the people of Afghanistan behind to defend themselves against wolves you simpleton! What he did was traitorous! He ran away like the coward he is! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The Biden economy is doing great. Love my stock market returns I wouldn't doubt it because the economy is back where it was before the pandemic . If you would in any way see reality & tell the truth your stocks were probably just as good before Biden but you would never in any way and would rather die before admitting it only to make up some lame ass excuse as you always do . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, Westside said: You don’t leave a force or the people of Afghanistan behind to defend themselves against wolves you simpleton! What he did was traitorous! He ran away like the coward he is! Dumb. We needed out, he got us out. 1 minute ago, T master said: I wouldn't doubt it because the economy is back where it was before the pandemic . If you would in any way see reality & tell the truth your stocks were probably just as good before Biden but you would never in any way and would rather die before admitting it only to make up some lame ass excuse as you always do . Oh ya, I've been doing very well in the market for the last 15 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Dumb. We needed out, he got us out. Oh ya, I've been doing very well in the market for the last 15 years You seem to have no problem turning your back on your allies in there greatest time of need. Just like you turned your back on half the country because they have differing opinions on how this country should be governed. So I’m not surprised, you seem to have a history of turning your back on people, I’m sure that carries over to the real world as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, Westside said: You seem to have no problem turning your back on your allies in there greatest time of need. Just like you turned your back on half the country because they have differing opinions on how this country should be governed. So I’m not surprised, you seem to have a history of turning your back on people, I’m sure that carries over to the real world as well. Different situations. Sort of like South Korea and South Vietnam. Ukraine has a functional republic the Afgans did not. Hated to cut Afgans loose, but with situations all over the globe, we had to stop being there as targets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Dumb. We needed out, he got us out. Oh ya, I've been doing very well in the market for the last 15 years We did but there was a hole lot better way to go about getting out and a true leader would have saw the better way of doing it instead of the way it was done . That's awesome i'm glad you finally give a little bit of credit where it is due . I'll mark this date on my calendar . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, T master said: We did but there was a hole lot better way to go about getting out and a true leader would have saw the better way of doing it instead of the way it was done . That's awesome i'm glad you finally give a little bit of credit where it is due . I'll mark this date on my calendar . I don't think so. You just had to get up and go. Give as little advanced notice as possible so your enemies can't plan, organize and carry out attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I don't think so. You just had to get up and go. Give as little advanced notice as possible so your enemies can't plan, organize and carry out attacks. Great strategy !! Take the military out first & leave all the innocent people that helped the US & the military to fend for them selves yep BRILLIANT !!! You ever here of the old adage "Look before you leap" well neither has Joe - Stupid is as stupid does ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, T master said: Great strategy !! Take the military out first & leave all the innocent people that helped the US & the military to fend for them selves yep BRILLIANT !!! You ever here of the old adage "Look before you leap" well neither has Joe - Stupid is as stupid does ... You wish our troops were still there fighting and dying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You wish our troops were still there fighting and dying? Not at all i think the US should bring our troops home and place 3/4 of them on the southern border but there's not a politician that uses any kind of common sense & would rather have a war so they can continue to make money . Then there are jack asses like you that just type BS like you did in hopes that we won't reply and others will see it as you do . But it still doesn't change the fact that you didn't have any relevant argument about the ignorants of taking the military out before the innocent people . Can't wait for the next reply this aught to be good ! Let me guess it was all Trumps doing right ??? Have BT send you a picture . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: The Biden economy is doing great. Love my stock market returns You leave a force behind, they become targets. Simply inane, as usual. What he did cause the few to be targets, as occurred days later with the suicide bomber. What was proposed was to keep control of Bagram Air Base with a relatively small contingent, but large enough to control and defend. i don't think you have any idea what you are talking about. Nothing matters to you,. Not common sense, not thoughtful effective, strategic use of our military, nothing, except defending this idiot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, sherpa said: Simply inane, as usual. What he did cause the few to be targets, as occurred days later with the suicide bomber. What was proposed was to keep control of Bagram Air Base with a relatively small contingent, but large enough to control and defend. i don't think you have any idea what you are talking about. Nothing matters to you,. Not common sense, not thoughtful effective, strategic use of our military, nothing, except defending this idiot. So insulting. Mark of a small mind, but whatever. Easily defend an air base, you say? lol, ok, if you say so. Glad Biden wasn't listening to that horrible advice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 So, a Koch funded war monger gets its destroyed and moves to an Indi. Still has the backing of that Epstein pal. 55 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So insulting. Mark of a small mind, but whatever. same thing goes for when you and yours do nothing but toss insults? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: So insulting. Mark of a small mind, but whatever. Easily defend an air base, you say? lol, ok, if you say so. Glad Biden wasn't listening to that horrible advice With your offensive history here, don't ever claim someone else is insulting. To the point, you have no idea and no capability to produce a cogent thought. Bagram Air Base was defended. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and the Sect of Defense recommended we protect our allies and our equipment during a withdrawal. Biden rejected that advice, then lied about ever receiving it. What he did was a disgrace, and the theory is that it was becasue of a pride issue. Obama rejected his desire to withdraw ten years ago, so he was going to do it no matter how stupid the execution. By the way, its really funny you would aver an opinion on defending an air base. It was you who suggested we deploy a couple of fighter squadrons to the Ukraine as a "deterrent" before the Putin invasion. Completely undefended. No infrastructure to support US aircraft and completely vulnerable to Russian air power. Simply the stupidest advice I have ever seen on this forum. In your eyes, that was OK, but deserting friends and allies, eventually killed, along with our own was a great idea. Edited February 27 by sherpa 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 5 hours ago, sherpa said: With your offensive history here, don't ever claim someone else is insulting. To the point, you have no idea and no capability to produce a cogent thought. Bagram Air Base was defended. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and the Sect of Defense recommended we protect our allies and our equipment during a withdrawal. Biden rejected that advice, then lied about ever receiving it. What he did was a disgrace, and the theory is that it was becasue of a pride issue. Obama rejected his desire to withdraw ten years ago, so he was going to do it no matter how stupid the execution. By the way, its really funny you would aver an opinion on defending an air base. It was you who suggested we deploy a couple of fighter squadrons to the Ukraine as a "deterrent" before the Putin invasion. Completely undefended. No infrastructure to support US aircraft and completely vulnerable to Russian air power. Simply the stupidest advice I have ever seen on this forum. In your eyes, that was OK, but deserting friends and allies, eventually killed, along with our own was a great idea. It was an utter embarrassment. But they can't/won't admit it because it makes Joke look bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sherpa Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 She's still a better option than Trump. Smarter. Less offensive. A better leader. Little baggage. No civil war. We get what we deserve. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Just now, sherpa said: She's still a better option than Trump. Smarter. Less offensive. A better leader. Little baggage. No civil war. We get what we deserve. Say this as often as possible until election day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 43 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Say this as often as possible until election day. I don't need to do that. I have given up on this issue. The country will get what it deserves. A system is in place that makes it impossible for a competition that 70% of the American people want no part of to occur. Does that make sense? My interest is simply protecting my family, and I am doing that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 16 minutes ago, sherpa said: I don't need to do that. I have given up on this issue. The country will get what it deserves. A system is in place that makes it impossible for a competition that 70% of the American people want no part of to occur. Does that make sense? My interest is simply protecting my family, and I am doing that. Fair enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, sherpa said: She's still a better option than Trump. Smarter. Less offensive. A better leader. Little baggage. No civil war. We get what we deserve. The same could have been said of Romney. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 3 hours ago, sherpa said: She's still a better option than Trump. Smarter. Less offensive. A better leader. Little baggage. No civil war. We get what we deserve. She is just status quo, nothing will change for thee betterment of the US with her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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