Process Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 We just gave Bass a big extension this offseason. At the time it seemed like a no brainer. He was so good before this season. Such a shame. How screwed are we with the dead cap on his deal for 2024? Not saying we shouldn't give him another shot. Just wondering if cutting him is even a realistic option if it comes to that. 3 misses in 2 playoff games, after a rough regular season, is hard to accept. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chugga Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 If the loss doesn’t hurt enough just look at some of these contracts. Yikes 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, Process said: We just gave Bass a big extension this offseason. At the time it seemed like a no brainer. He was so good before this season. Such a shame. How screwed are we with the dead cap on his deal for 2024? Not saying we shouldn't give him another shot. Just wondering if cutting him is even a realistic option if it comes to that. 3 misses in 2 playoff games, after a rough regular season, is hard to accept. He isn't going anywhere. You don't create holes to fill AND take huge dead cap hits when you already have to work the cap since you are $40 million over it next year to begin with. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Yeah it sucks .. but what are you going to do ? Just now, Big Turk said: He isn't going anywhere. You don't create holes to fill AND take huge dead cap hits when you already have to work the cap since you are $40 million over it next year to begin with. He is gone 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 That dead cap hit… Symbolically I want him gone. I don’t even care about anything rational at this point. Absolutely unacceptable from him this postseason. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Applicable Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Very glad to hear that Norwood 2.0 has a contract that makes him essentially uncuttable. Awesome news! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Every week he is a massive question mark … if there is not an injury issue that they have kept silent for weeks … he is gone … they can’t have him back next year 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: He isn't going anywhere. You don't create holes to fill AND take huge dead cap hits when you already have to work the cap since you are $40 million over it next year to begin with. Yeah, I wouldn't be so sure about that. Beane's surely got a number of different things lined up to get us out from under our cap situation. Kicker is a relatively cheap position. Especially if we Draft a guy. You can't keep rolling out a Kicker as unreliable as he's been down the stretch just because of the money. It's not like other positions where you can say "well, we're stuck with him, but that doesn't mean we have to start him". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Yeah it sucks .. but what are you going to do ? He is gone Sorry, this isn't Madden franchise mode. I know you think it's realistic when you do whatever you want in the game and think real life works the same way, but sorry to say you are sadly mistaken. Edited January 22 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 $9m split over 2 years isn’t un-cuttable. That’s like 1.5% of the cap. McBeane will bring in competition and he’ll be cut if he continues to inspire zero confidence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, BillsFanForever19 said: Yeah, I wouldn't be so sure about that. Beane's surely got a number of different things lined up to get us out from under our cap situation. Kicker is a relatively cheap position. Especially if we Draft a guy. You can't keep rolling out a Kicker as unreliable as he's been down the stretch just because of the money. It's not like other positions where you can say "well, we're stuck with him, but that doesn't mean we have to start him". With that dead cap number Bass will be back Hope is he bounces back like alot of kickers have in the past. But this year was bad and it would be nice to feel better about the position going into next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: Sorry, this isn't Madden franchise mode. I know you think it's realistic when you do whatever you want in the game and think real life works the same way, but sorry to say you are sadly mistaken. So is your argument that his dead cap is too high… not his kicking ability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Yeah, I wouldn't be so sure about that. Beane's surely got a number of different things lined up to get us out from under our cap situation. Kicker is a relatively cheap position. Especially if we Draft a guy. You can't keep rolling out a Kicker as unreliable as he's been down the stretch just because of the money. It's not like other positions where you can say "well, we're stuck with him, but that doesn't mean we have to start him". Considering in general, kicker consistency is the widest variable in the NFL from one year to the next outside of outliers like Justin Tucker, you most likely would be chasing your tail. 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: So is your argument that his dead cap is too high… not his kicking ability? Kicking consistency from one year to the next outside of a very select few like Justin Tucker is the widest variable in the NFL in terms of statistics. To the point the argument was made that kickoff distance/touchbacks are a more important determinating factor when they did the study than FG percentage since it's up and down and effected by a lot of other variables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Kicking consistency from one year to the next outside of a very select few like Justin Tucker is the widest variable in the NFL in terms of statistics. To the point the argument was made that kickoff distance/touchbacks are a more important determinating factor when they did the study than FG percentage since it's up and down and effected by a lot of other variables. Sorry … can’t agree .. I think he gets cut … happy to revisit and accept my Medicine… but I think he is gone Edited January 22 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I feel like kickers either have it, or they don’t. A miss like that can linger in Bass’s mind. His first year was concerning after beating out Hauschka because he had the yips early, couldn’t make anything after a stellar preseason. He was able to get right in that Jets game where he made 7/10 or whatever it was, but I can’t fully trust him from this point on. I think he knows the team likely feels the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Sorry … can’t agree .. I think he gets cut … happy to revisit and accept my Medicine… but I think he is gone You don't need to agree, you simply are being emotional and not basing it off facts. Bass is squarely in the middle of "good" kickers over the last 3 years and is 3rd in XP percentage over that time. The "clutch" kicker Butker is a few percentage points better than him, which is statistcailly meaningless really with how few attempts they get each year. You don't create a huge dead cap space to get a marginal, if any, upgrade. That makes zero sense and only someone who is basing their decision on emption rather than logic would do that. Bass was also 9/9 before that kick in those situations. You don't get rid of a guy who misses his first kick after making the other 9. Guess 2am counts for Overreaction Monday. Edited January 22 by Big Turk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Tyler Bass, the least thing I will worry about in my nightmares tonight 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 23 minutes ago, Patrick Fitzryan said: Very glad to hear that Norwood 2.0 has a contract that makes him essentially uncuttable. Awesome news! Yup....he's like a bottom 5 statistical kicker yet he's getting top 5 money. Unbelievable? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Tyler Bass, the least thing I will worry about in my nightmares tonight Whats first three? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Whats first three? Tay Tay celebrating (Check). Kelce TD (Check), Mahomes Td (Check) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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