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purposeful ambiguity:

Republican Senator Cory Gardner of Colorado was among those who argued that Trump needed to be more clear about who he was condemning.

"This is not a time for vagaries. This isn't a time for innuendo or to allow room to be read between the lines. This is a time to lay blame ... on white supremacists, on white nationalism and on hatred," Gardner said on CNN the day after Trump's initial statement.

In response to the criticism, Trump delivered a statement at the White House that explicitly called out racist groups.

"Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans," Trump said.

But, that walk back did not last long.

The next day during an infrastructure event at Trump Tower, Trump held an impromptu press conference where he seemed to double down on his original comment. He said there was blame on both sides and seemed to equate the actions of the counter protesters with those of the white nationalists.  https://www.npr.org/2018/08/11/637665414/a-year-after-charlottesville-not-much-has-changed-for-trump

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1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

"Heil Trump"...why would the racists say that?


 

Hahaha. 
 

It’s amazing how your mind works. 
 

 

It doesn’t matter what extremists say in support of Trump ( or Biden for that matter) 

 

Its what Trump says and does is what counts.

 

And he condemned them, on tape. 
 

but you can’t admit to being wrong, the board members know that. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

purposeful ambiguity:

Republican Senator Cory Gardner of Colorado was among those who argued that Trump needed to be more clear about who he was condemning.

"This is not a time for vagaries. This isn't a time for innuendo or to allow room to be read between the lines. This is a time to lay blame ... on white supremacists, on white nationalism and on hatred," Gardner said on CNN the day after Trump's initial statement.

In response to the criticism, Trump delivered a statement at the White House that explicitly called out racist groups.

"Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans," Trump said.

But, that walk back did not last long.

The next day during an infrastructure event at Trump Tower, Trump held an impromptu press conference where he seemed to double down on his original comment. He said there was blame on both sides and seemed to equate the actions of the counter protesters with those of the white nationalists.  https://www.npr.org/2018/08/11/637665414/a-year-after-charlottesville-not-much-has-changed-for-trump

You're the guy pushing ambiguity

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7 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

,I'll never understand admiration for a traitor and seditionist:  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/26/charlottesville-robert-e-lee-melted-confederate-statue

 

I don't understand it either.  Maybe we could ask FDR?

 

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On June 12, 1936, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt was on hand to honor the "warriors in the lost cause of the Confederacy" by unveiling the statue of Robert E. Lee in Dallas' Lee Park. The following day, The Dallas Morning News published a recap of the event, detailing FDR's speech and other parts of the gathering. 

 

In a short speech, delivered from his automobile, FDR described Lee as "one of the greatest American Christians and one of our greatest American gentlemen." 

 

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2017/09/06/flashback-fdr-unveiled-robert-e-lee-statue-without-controversy-in-1936/

 

Dallas took down the statue and renamed the park to Turtle Creek Park in 2017.

 

1936 was pre or post the big switch?

 

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4 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I don't understand it either.  Maybe we could ask FDR?

 

 

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2017/09/06/flashback-fdr-unveiled-robert-e-lee-statue-without-controversy-in-1936/

 

Dallas took down the statue and renamed the park to Turtle Creek Park in 2017.

 

1936 was pre or post the big switch?

 

The Klan was big in the 30’s. He was a politician and he was wrong. 

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2 hours ago, B-Man said:

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That's what he basically said.  And it was worse than the Charlottesville comments Trump made because he excluded the white supremacists.

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BIDEN STILL STUCK IN “VERY FINE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES” MODE: 

 

Biden Satisfies No One With Lackluster Speech Decrying ‘Antisemitism & Islamophobia:’

 

Summary: Last night, CNN spent its prime time segment decrying the Democratic president’s “radio silence” on the Gaza-related campus protests and chaos. MSM pundits have pointed to his lack of leadership as violence at times erupted from UCLA to Columbia to a number of elite schools.

 

As expected, Biden began by trying to chart a kind of middle course condemning “antisemitism” and “Islamophobia”… though many conservatives have pointed out it’s only the former they are seeing evidence of during these campus protests.

 

“Dissent is essential to democracy. But dissent must never lead to disorder or denying the rights of others… no place for hate speech in America,” Biden said. “Denying the rights of others” appears a very vague reference to students occupying buildings, and denying the ability of tuition-paying students to go to their classes, libraries, or to take exams.

 

“In moments like this, there are always those who rush in to score political points. But this isn’t a moment for politics. It’s a moment for clarity. So let me be clear…Violent protest is not protected. Peaceful protest is.”

 

“Destroying property is not a peaceful protest, it’s against the law. Vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows*, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes and graduation. None of this is a peaceful protest, threatening people, intimidating people,” Biden said.

 

We should note that Biden’s ‘middle way’ attempt (akin to “good folks on both sides” rhetoric that the Left gets angry about) is unlikely to satisfy either side. In the end, this lackluster speech is not going to make the encampments disappear, or the protesters disperse.

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/president-biden-deliver-unscheduled-remarks

 

 

 

* Wait until Biden discovers what his vice president was doing in 2020:

 

 

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