McDermott’s Defense against #1 Offense? Discuss

[Bermuda Triangle]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He didn't try that many. Hence he had a pitiful 6.4 ypa. 

 

If you think the defense was the issue tonight I don't know what to tell you. 

I didn’t say that “the defense was the issue”, nor did I insinuate that.  
 

the defense did not play well, however…against a backup QB and a team missing their WR1.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Bermuda Triangle said:

I didn’t say that “the defense was the issue”, nor did I insinuate that.  
 

the defense did not play well, however…against a backup QB and a team missing their WR1.

 

Disagree, the defense was fine. The Chargers had 2 drives of any note. If the Bills don't turn it over 3 times and end up going backwards 20 yards on another drive giving them good field position the Chargers would have struggled to get double figures. 

[DuckyBoys]

McDermott was good tonight  Couple sacks were schemed up blitzes in big spots   We got some liabilities in coverage to be sure and the front 4 other than big Ed were invisible  

[boyst]

24 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

So when Josh throws a dumb pick or players fumble the ball that is on the head coach? Come on. That is nonsense. The players made dumb mistakes that let a bad team playing hard hang around. 

You're looking at just a few plays that do not compromise the full game. The first half the chargers dominated us on the field. We made mistakes, yes. But, our defense couldn't get off the field, our offense was sputtering, our special teams was aloof. All of this is a common team. These coaches we play sure do a great job psyching the teams up to play us: giants, jets I, chargers, and so many others.

 

We play without temperament, without swagger, we play like McDermott behaves and that is not the personality of the key players on this team, the leaders.

 

McDermott is not the coach for this team. 

[BringBackFergy]

21 minutes ago, boyst said:

You're looking at just a few plays that do not compromise the full game. The first half the chargers dominated us on the field. We made mistakes, yes. But, our defense couldn't get off the field, our offense was sputtering, our special teams was aloof. All of this is a common team. These coaches we play sure do a great job psyching the teams up to play us: giants, jets I, chargers, and so many others.

 

We play without temperament, without swagger, we play like McDermott behaves and that is not the personality of the key players on this team, the leaders.

 

McDermott is not the coach for this team. 

You have to be trolling!!! 😄

[JGMcD2]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

You're looking at just a few plays that do not compromise the full game. The first half the chargers dominated us on the field. We made mistakes, yes. But, our defense couldn't get off the field, our offense was sputtering, our special teams was aloof. All of this is a common team. These coaches we play sure do a great job psyching the teams up to play us: giants, jets I, chargers, and so many others.

 

We play without temperament, without swagger, we play like McDermott behaves and that is not the personality of the key players on this team, the leaders.

 

McDermott is not the coach for this team. 

LA in 1st Half 

 

14 Plays, 90 Yards in 6:40 (FG)

4 Plays, -2 Yards in 3:26 (Punt)

4 Plays, 27 Yards in 1:14 (TD)*

3 Plays, 7 yards in 1:31 (Punt) 

7 Plays, 12 yards in 4:33 (Punt) 

1 Play, 6 yards in 0:33 (HALF) 

 

33 Plays, 140 Yards, 10 Points

 

*TD came off Deonte Harty fumble 

 

The Bills ran 24 plays for 176 yards and 14 points. 

 

What the ***** are you taking about? 

Edited December 24, 2023 by JGMcD2

[BillMafia716ix]

Once again Sean McDermott’s defense keeping the Bills in the game when the offense kept trying to give it away. It’s been the story of the season. Yeah he’s a had few mishaps but he’s been coaching his ass off this season. Especially giving the injuries to key guys early in the season. Give the man his props!! 

[GunnerBill]

6 hours ago, boyst said:

You're looking at just a few plays that do not compromise the full game. The first half the chargers dominated us on the field. We made mistakes, yes. But, our defense couldn't get off the field, our offense was sputtering, our special teams was aloof. All of this is a common team. These coaches we play sure do a great job psyching the teams up to play us: giants, jets I, chargers, and so many others.

 

We play without temperament, without swagger, we play like McDermott behaves and that is not the personality of the key players on this team, the leaders.

 

I mean this is all just wrong. 

[boyst]

8 hours ago, JGMcD2 said:

LA in 1st Half 

 

14 Plays, 90 Yards in 6:40 (FG)

4 Plays, -2 Yards in 3:26 (Punt)

4 Plays, 27 Yards in 1:14 (TD)*

3 Plays, 7 yards in 1:31 (Punt) 

7 Plays, 12 yards in 4:33 (Punt) 

1 Play, 6 yards in 0:33 (HALF) 

 

33 Plays, 140 Yards, 10 Points

 

*TD came off Deonte Harty fumble 

 

The Bills ran 24 plays for 176 yards and 14 points. 

 

What the ***** are you taking about? 

Look at our offense against them.

[JGMcD2]

8 minutes ago, boyst said:

Look at our offense against them.

Yeah, 24 plays for 176 yards and 14 points. 
 

Where is the Chargers domination? 

[GunnerBill]

29 minutes ago, boyst said:

Look at our offense against them.

 

So when Josh misses a wide open Davis and Kincaid on 3rd down throws we blame coaching?

 

Is there anything we don't blame coaching for?

 

EDIT: there has been LOTS to blame coaching for this year. Both coordinators and the Head Coach as the Head Coach. But it has got ridiculous now. The Bills were well coached last night. The issues yesterday were all about player execution and individual errors that let a bad team hang around.

Edited December 24, 2023 by GunnerBill

[nucci]

defense was fine. Offense with 3 turnovers and bad penalties

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

So when Josh misses a wide open Davis and Kincaid on 3rd down throws we blame coaching?

 

Is there anything we don't blame coaching for?

Wins. Playoff wins. 4 straight 11+ win seasons. Good play. Mid and late rounders playing at Pro Bowl levels. 
 

None of that is coaching, no siree.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, nucci said:

defense was fine. Offense with 3 turnovers and bad penalties

 

Offense and STs* but yep, agreed.

[boyst]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

So when Josh misses a wide open Davis and Kincaid on 3rd down throws we blame coaching?

 

Is there anything we don't blame coaching for?

 

EDIT: there has been LOTS to blame coaching for this year. Both coordinators and the Head Coach as the Head Coach. But it has got ridiculous now. The Bills were well coached last night. The issues yesterday were all about player execution and individual errors that let a bad team hang around.

When we look at small individual plays it's easy to point blame with the microscope. I keep looking at these games as an overall theme, as an overall scheme, as the concept of football. And I don't see it being successful.

[GunnerBill]

15 minutes ago, boyst said:

When we look at small individual plays it's easy to point blame with the microscope. I keep looking at these games as an overall theme, as an overall scheme, as the concept of football. And I don't see it being successful.

 

How many plans are successfull when the turnover battle is lost 3-0?

 

I am not pointing with a microscope. I am pointing at the people making mistakes. And I have pointed at coaching plenty this year. It is totally inplausible to me that last night was coaching. It was unforced execution errors.

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, JGMcD2 said:

Yeah, 24 plays for 176 yards and 14 points. 
 

Where is the Chargers domination? 

 

It's Easton Stick throwing to the #3 and #4 WRs on the depth chart... It's an OL down to its 3rd center... We should expect total domination. Giving up even 1 TD, even on a short field, is inexcusable. Zero turnovers is inexcusable. Only creating one 3 and out is inexcusable. Giving up 4 FGs on drives that started at or before the 50 is inexcusable. Those 4 FG drives plus 7 points instead of 3 points after Harty's fumble, that is 16 points legitimately given up by the defense to Easton Stick and his cast of nobodies.

 

You have to adjust your expectations higher against this opponent. I think any defense could have done what ours did last night. They didn't lose us the game but they probably should have made it an easy stress-free win, if they had played up to a championship standard like we expect.

[boyst]

3 hours ago, nucci said:

defense was fine. Offense with 3 turnovers and bad penalties

I love letting Mac Jones, estin stick, and jabroni ls who won't be playing in 3 years eat us alive with 4th string WR's. If that offense was full strength they'd have ate our biscuits. Our scheme and process choked 

[Roundybout]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

It's Easton Stick throwing to the #3 and #4 WRs on the depth chart... It's an OL down to its 3rd center... We should expect total domination. Giving up even 1 TD, even on a short field, is inexcusable. Zero turnovers is inexcusable. Only creating one 3 and out is inexcusable. Giving up 4 FGs on drives that started at or before the 50 is inexcusable. Those 4 FG drives plus 7 points instead of 3 points after Harty's fumble, that is 16 points legitimately given up by the defense to Easton Stick and his cast of nobodies.

 

You have to adjust your expectations higher against this opponent. I think any defense could have done what ours did last night. They didn't lose us the game but they probably should have made it an easy stress-free win, if they had played up to a championship standard like we expect.

Giving up no touchdowns is extraordinary difficult in the NFL, no matter who your opponent is. Even Washington scored on the Jets today 

[GoBills808]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

It's Easton Stick throwing to the #3 and #4 WRs on the depth chart... It's an OL down to its 3rd center... We should expect total domination. Giving up even 1 TD, even on a short field, is inexcusable. Zero turnovers is inexcusable. Only creating one 3 and out is inexcusable. Giving up 4 FGs on drives that started at or before the 50 is inexcusable. Those 4 FG drives plus 7 points instead of 3 points after Harty's fumble, that is 16 points legitimately given up by the defense to Easton Stick and his cast of nobodies.

 

You have to adjust your expectations higher against this opponent. I think any defense could have done what ours did last night. They didn't lose us the game but they probably should have made it an easy stress-free win, if they had played up to a championship standard like we expect.

This is plainly obvious 

2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Giving up no touchdowns is extraordinary difficult in the NFL, no matter who your opponent is. Even Washington scored on the Jets today 

Did you see what a not very good raiders defense did to that chargers team just the week before