Tommy Callahan Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: All education is not the same All experience is not the same All testing is far from objective Race, Sex, Religion and other non-productivity factors have nothing to do with qualifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: All education is not the same All experience is not the same All testing is far from objective Roll on brotha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, Pokebball said: Roll on brotha You too, with your ignorance All experiences are the same 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, Tiberius said: You too, with your ignorance All experiences are the same 🤣 No. Does DEI care about experience? RACE, RELIGION, SEX, and the rest mean squat when your all from the same quintile with the same education. Experience is not a factor in DEI. eff, it removes that from the formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You too, with your ignorance All experiences are the same 🤣 In your world, how would job candidates be assessed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 14 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You too, with your ignorance All experiences are the same 🤣 All experiences, education are not the same. That's why you need to consider those objective metrics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 9 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: In your world, how would job candidates be assessed? Of course, it's going to be based on RACE, SEX, disability and what not. Thats the current thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 39 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: In your world, how would job candidates be assessed? Depends on the job, right? Use to be all the construction jobs were reserved for whites. Not cool, right? Some want that to continue so we have laws that fight that. You are against those laws, right? 34 minutes ago, Pokebball said: All experiences, education are not the same. That's why you need to consider those objective metrics. And one persons objectivity is another subjectivity Like Affirmative Action favors race, but since blacks were not allowed in college before they can't have legacy admissions status. So is AA really wrong? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 12 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Depends on the job, right? Use to be all the construction jobs were reserved for whites. Not cool, right? Some want that to continue so we have laws that fight that. You are against those laws, right? And one persons objectivity is another subjectivity Like Affirmative Action favors race, but since blacks were not allowed in college before they can't have legacy admissions status. So is AA really wrong? I think you're confusing objective metrics with a person's interpretation of those objective metrics. A degree in accounting from an accredited institution is objective. I'm concerned that you would discount that metric? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Pokebball said: I think you're confusing objective metrics with a person's interpretation of those objective metrics. A degree in accounting from an accredited institution is objective. I'm concerned that you would discount that metric? Tell us you don't know what you're talking about without actually telling us. You are all in over your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Pokebball said: I think you're confusing objective metrics with a person's interpretation of those objective metrics. A degree in accounting from an accredited institution is objective. I'm concerned that you would discount that metric? There are different institutions, degrees and experiences, and it all comes down to people making decisions, which can be flawed. Do you know why Philharmonic orchestras use to be all male? It's because they would not hire women, obviously. So now they do blind test so you only hear the music because people are so biased, They can't do that for every job. People are people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: There are different institutions, degrees and experiences, and it all comes down to people making decisions, which can be flawed. Do you know why Philharmonic orchestras use to be all male? It's because they would not hire women, obviously. So now they do blind test so you only hear the music because people are so biased, They can't do that for every job. People are people This is exactly what I'm saying. You need to judge candidates objectively, based on the institution and degree obtained. You want to be sure it's a quality institution with the proper accreditation for the program you're hiring from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, Pokebball said: This is exactly what I'm saying. You need to judge candidates objectively, based on the institution and degree obtained. You want to be sure it's a quality institution with the proper accreditation for the program you're hiring from. Sure, until they just hire white people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 26 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Depends on the job, right? What would your requirements be for an engineer working on manned space flight tasks? How would you assess prospective employees? I know it’s not your thing but it’s ok to give a straight answer from time to time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Sure, until they just hire white people Or asian, or hispanic, or black.... You're coming around my friend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 23 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Or asian, or hispanic, or black.... You're coming around my friend You ant it to be like before. No laws to make sure there is some form of fairness, isn't that right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: You ant it to be like before. No laws to make sure there is some form of fairness, isn't that right? You can't discriminate based on protected classes. Race is a protected class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You ant it to be like before. No laws to make sure there is some form of fairness, isn't that right? Who defines fairness? Sounds subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, Pokebball said: You can't discriminate based on protected classes. Race is a protected class. Oh, so discrimination doesn't exist. It is now a thought crime to believe that MAGA world gone wild. MAGA is losing MAGA eats it Just now, JDHillFan said: Who defines fairness? Sounds subjective. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 7 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Who defines fairness? Sounds subjective. Fringe leftists. If it was anybody else they'd all scream and shout that's not fair! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh, so discrimination doesn't exist. It is now a thought crime to believe that Discrimination is against the law, just like murder, theft. All exist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 29 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Discrimination is against the law, just like murder, theft. All exist But now it's kosher under the umbrella (dei). Kinda crazy hearing progressives support hiring, firing and promoting based on race and sex. Those battles were hard fought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Brilliant start coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 13 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Brilliant start coach. Why would you even say this? Perhaps in the context of the question that was asked it be better. But man oh man, not a good start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 18 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Brilliant start coach. Just look at the MAGA racists responses to that Tweet. As predicted. Meanwhile - Mayo on diversity, equity, and inclusion: “I learned a lot at Optum about diversity and inclusion. You better believe that being the first black head coach here in New England means a lot to me, but those guys taught me that you have to take people – black, white, green, yellow, it really doesn’t matter. Old, young.” What being first the black Patriots head coach means Jerod Mayo (boston.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Hilarious that "END WOKENESS" is talking about WHITE GUILT after trashing MLK. You're all f'n racists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 1/12/2024 at 8:55 AM, BuffaninSarasota said: nice try with the baiting, nothing to comment on other than this is a great hire. Merit based. Told ya DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 So maybe Coach “hold the” Mayo would rather talk about racism than his crappy football team. …..and If he dumps his 3 QB’s it sure ain’t because they’re white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 1/17/2024 at 11:05 AM, Tiberius said: Do you know why Philharmonic orchestras use to be all male? It's because they would not hire women, obviously. So now they do blind test so you only hear the music because people are so biased, They can't do that for every job. People are people Blind auditions are the epitome of straight up meritocracy. Actually there are now calls to end it because it is not getting the desired effect. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/16/arts/music/blind-auditions-orchestras-race.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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All_Pro_Bills Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: So now most faculty members don't want to attend staff meetings either. My workplace has a couple major HR initiatives. DEI and Common Culture. I'd argue they're conflicting objectives. Do you want differences or commonality? It's something nobody running the show cares to explain. Gone are the simplier days when you were just expected to do the best job you can and go home. Edited January 20 by All_Pro_Bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Remember when he was called payroll and it was a handful of people. At the company I work for there is an electronic org chart. Hr department is over 1k people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 "The New York Times presents this piece as some kind of Pentagon Papers-esque exposé." "But I guarantee you that a majority of Americans - including probably most Democrats -- believe that DEI/Anti Racism went too far post George Floyd and we need to get back to aiming for a color blind society." That's the highest rated comment on the article "'America Is Under Attack': Inside the Anti-D.E.I. Crusade" by Nicholas Confessore (NYT). The next 4 highest rated comments are similar: 1. "I don’t agree on much with Elise Stefanik, but she is right about DEI. When a movement requires zealous adherence, will abide no decent, and actively persecuted dissenters, then that movement is an enemy of free speech and the active exchange of ideas, whether it comes from the right or the left." 2. "This article makes the same assumption that the DEI movement does: opposing any aspect of the DEI program is an opposition to diversity and thus is racist itself. Why cant it be okay to think that the DEI program is the wrong approach to achieving diversity?" 3. "Getting rid of these DEI programs would be good for the US. We should get back to trying to be a meritocracy. Choose the best candidates, not the most diverse ones." 4. "This article attempts to discredit the view that DEI has gone too far by linking this view to politicians most readers will find distasteful. Yet the article avoids any discussion, analysis or statistics about the underlying question. It is undeniable that higher education is staffed by teachers and administrators that are far more progressive than the U.S. as a whole, that college courses are heavily tilted toward the progressive narrative, that administrators (including 'the college presidents') selectively protect free speech depending on the message, and that applicants’ race has been the determining factor for many students at elite universities. Many Americans think this progressive bias is wrong. The fact some unsavory characters may agree doesn’t negate the point." https://althouse.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-new-york-times-presents-this-piece.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/01/20/us/dei-woke-claremont-institute.html . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 On 1/17/2024 at 4:48 PM, BillsFanNC said: Brilliant start coach. If he sees color, as he claims, then clearly he’s aware that blacks are over represented on his football team…I hope the equity he believes in leads him sign more white, Asian, and Hispanic players to be a better representation of society…😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 This marxist DEI bull#### has been growing for decades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I'm with James Woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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