Truths at the Midpoint

[theRalph]

We've all been dealing with our misgivings about the Bills. Here's what some other clubs are dealing with:

 

Cincinnati: "Who Dey?" should be rephrased: "What Dat?"

 

Jacksonville: "It always was the Jags" should be rephrased: "It was never the Jags"

 

Baltimore: "Seven Nation Army" should be rephrased: "Seven Nation Smarmy"

 

Los Angeles: "Bolt Up, Not Out!" should be rephrased "Bolt Out, Not Up!"

 

The Bills are going to be fine...

 

P.S. Bills Mafia thanks you, again, Tyler Boyd!

 

Edited November 13, 2023 by theRalph

[Bob Jones]

We shall see....at this point, making a bold proclamation like this is like throwing down money on the roulette table, you just don’t know what's going to happen.

[Royale with Cheese]

I am interested to see what team we see tonight.

 

Either a turning point or more of the same.  I think tonight we will find out if we are turning the corner, getting out of the slump or we are probably going to miss the playoffs.  

[Buffalo_Stampede]

The truth is the Bills are in trouble due to schedule and injuries. Another truth is that Josh Allen can get hot and beat anyone any week.

 

 

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

The truth is the Bills are in trouble due to schedule and injuries. Another truth is that Josh Allen can get hot and beat anyone any week.

 

 

I thought we traded him already. 

[90sBills]

Define ‘fine’

 

Fine as in they’ll make the playoffs? Absolutely!

 

Fine as in they’ll make the Superbowl? Not likely with what’s happening with the team currently. 

5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Another truth is that Josh Allen can get hot and beat anyone any week.

 

 

Or get cold and loses to teams like NE. 

[uninja]

I honestly don't know what to believe anymore at this point. Usually September is a liar and that's been true, but by early/mid November you get a sense of what teams have it and which teams don't. I know which got it in the NFC but in the AFC it's a mess.

[Heavy Kevi]

I'm still holding out hope this is like the Gints '07

 

Josh is good enough to take games over by himself.

 

IF the offense gets hot late in the year anything is possible (yeah even a SB)

 

You just need to get hot at the end and get some bounces.

 

NOBODY in unbeatable

[Mikie2times]

21 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

We shall see....at this point, making a bold proclamation like this is like throwing down money on the roulette table, you just don’t know what's going to happen.

[MJS]

56 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I am interested to see what team we see tonight.

 

Either a turning point or more of the same.  I think tonight we will find out if we are turning the corner, getting out of the slump or we are probably going to miss the playoffs.  

I don't think we need to look at the deeper meaning behind every game. It's a football game. I'll be rooting for the Bills to win it. If they don't, that sucks. Every loss will make it more difficult to get into the playoffs. If they do, great. Go win another one next week.

[PBF81]

Out of curiosity, how many other head coaches have firmly indicated that they have no idea what's wrong much less how to correct what they don't know is wrong with their own teams?  

 

Asking for a friend.  

 

  

 

 

Edited November 13, 2023 by PBF81

[MJS]

49 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Define ‘fine’

 

Fine as in they’ll make the playoffs? Absolutely!

 

Fine as in they’ll make the Superbowl? Not likely with what’s happening with the team currently. 

Or get cold and loses to teams like NE. 

It is never "likely" to make a superbowl, for any team.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, MJS said:

It is never "likely" to make a superbowl, for any team.

 

I dunno, the Chiefs have proven to be that team... I have seen nothing that makes me think that they won't again.

[PBF81]

40 minutes ago, Heavy Kevi said:

Josh is good enough to take games over by himself.

 

That's a significant part of the point/problem.   

 

Josh shouldn't have to take over games by himself in order for us to win.  

 

That's been the case throughout McD's tenure.  Allen winning games to the difference of drought era teams and this.  The only thing making McD look good in the playoffs was Allen's having taken over the Chiefs' game along with Davis in '21.  Otherwise McD can't win anything but a Wild-Card game.  

 

The biggest common denominator in the now four season duration of Allen's top-level play is that it's been in the post-Brady era and our division has generally sucked.  Miami's been the only true threat and that's reliant upon Tua who's seen a tumultuous injury history not even being able to play a full season yet.  

 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, MJS said:

I don't think we need to look at the deeper meaning behind every game. It's a football game. I'll be rooting for the Bills to win it. If they don't, that sucks. Every loss will make it more difficult to get into the playoffs. If they do, great. Go win another one next week.

 

If we struggle tonight, that will be 6 games in a row with the Giants and Pats included....not to mention the Bengals defense gives up the most explosive plays in football.  They gave up 17 to the Texans with a rookie QB.  We struggled again with 18 points.  

 

That's where I'm coming from.  We may have issues on offense with talent in some areas but still, there's enough to be at least a competent offense.  Lacking a WR2 shouldn't cripple this offense.  Something isn't working and this is becoming a trend now.  

 

We have to see something and if it's not against the Broncos, we have to start coming to the realization we aren't a good team.   We have talent but as a team, not good.  The thought of that is sickening and then we start thinking mass changes in the offseason when you disappoint at this level.  I don't want to see that so lets see what team shows up tonight.  I think this will tell us a lot since this is a prime time game and the country will be watching.  We are in the spotlight.

[Bangarang]

I feel like the thread title has nothing to do with the actual content.
 

My disappointment is immeasurable.

[Heavy Kevi]

1 hour ago, PBF81 said:

 

That's a significant part of the point/problem.   

 

Josh shouldn't have to take over games by himself in order for us to win.  

 

That's been the case throughout McD's tenure.  Allen winning games to the difference of drought era teams and this.  The only thing making McD look good in the playoffs was Allen's having taken over the Chiefs' game along with Davis in '21.  Otherwise McD can't win anything but a Wild-Card game.  

 

The biggest common denominator in the now four season duration of Allen's top-level play is that it's been in the post-Brady era and our division has generally sucked.  Miami's been the only true threat and that's reliant upon Tua who's seen a tumultuous injury history not even being able to play a full season yet.  

 

 

 

Shouldn't have to but he does

 

My point is nothing is perfect anywhere in the NFL, and this team actually is good enough (even right now) to win it all with McD. Every SB winning coach isn't awesome, sometimes you just catch lightning in a bottle.

 

And as much shade as McD gets (I'm not excluding myself, as I'm ready for a change at HC) by most meaningful metrics he's one of, if not the most successful coach in the history of this franchise. 

 

How many Giants fans were OUT on Coughlin before their SB? McD is no worse rn than Coughing was then, and Josh is significantly better than Eli

[Marcus Aurelius]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

The truth is the Bills are in trouble due to schedule and injuries. Another truth is that Josh Allen can get hot and beat anyone any week.

 

 

Nope. 

The BILLS are in deep doo-doo because of their unexplainable losses to the Jets and Pats.

[90sBills]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

It is never "likely" to make a superbowl, for any team.

That’s very true. But there are levels to this and Bills are currently towards the bottom of that spectrum.

 

I still think they can make hay. I just dropped 500 on them to make the playoffs. Great value right now! 

[PBF81]

54 minutes ago, Heavy Kevi said:

Shouldn't have to but he does

 

My point is nothing is perfect anywhere in the NFL, and this team actually is good enough (even right now) to win it all with McD. Every SB winning coach isn't awesome, sometimes you just catch lightning in a bottle.  

 

Not the way it's being coached it isn't.  The chances of McD stringing together four games to win it all is remote.  

 

Remember, we did catch lightning in a bottle in '21, and at the climax, Allen & Davis took over the game.  McD let that lightning out of the bottle in the waning 13 seconds of the game.  

 

They call it lightning in a bottle for a reason, it's very unusual that it happens twice.  

 

 

54 minutes ago, Heavy Kevi said:

And as much shade as McD gets (I'm not excluding myself, as I'm ready for a change at HC) by most meaningful metrics he's one of, if not the most successful coach in the history of this franchise. 

 

How many Giants fans were OUT on Coughlin before their SB? McD is no worse rn than Coughing was then, and Josh is significantly better than Eli

 

To whom much is given, much more is expected.  

 

He may be one of if not the most successful coach in franchise history, but he wouldn't be close without Allen and he's the one that's prevented it from going further.  Allen should be on his Christmas fruit basket list for the rest of his life.  

 

Allen >>> Eli Manning  

 

Right now, if we're going to compare, let's compare our record at season's end to who the QBs & coaches were during the drought years that had the same or better records.  

 

Let's see what happens tonight first.  If someone had told me at the beginning of the season that the Denver game, conceiveably our easiest back then, would be a pivotal defining game for us, I'd have thought they were nuts.