FireChans Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 It sucks that Knox is injured. I like him as a player. But it’s clear that without Knox, we are no longer forcing 12 personnel, which has clearly been holding this offense back. Unfortuantelt, we may see the 12 return when Knox gets healthy because Dorsey is going to have to include him and Kincaid. But the biggest difference tonight was 11 personnel. Dorsey is still Dorsey. this team is just better at 11 as currently constructed. 5 1 15 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) Was it the 12 personnel or was it running an up tempo offense that let Allen have time to scan the defense and break it down? We've seen the hurry up be effective when Knox was around in the last 3 weeks. Edited October 27, 2023 by Warcodered 5 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, Warcodered said: Was it the 12 personnel or was it running an up tempo offense that let Allen have time to scan the defense and break it down. Well we couldn’t use 12 today. But today seemed way more uptempo. Josh was calling way more audibles and seemed to be really fired up 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 100 percent agreed When the bills drafted Kincaid I was a bit nervous about 12 personnel as Josh likes throwing to WRs. Time to roll with 11 and use Kincaid over Knox when Knox does return 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Was it the 12 personnel or was it running an up tempo offense that let Allen have time to scan the defense and break it down. I think it’s both. When they were doing 12, they were doing a lot of subbing. Seemed like they were letting defences dictating terms as they matched with them. With this 11/ no huddle, it seemed like it was “this is our offence, good luck stopping us” 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Was it the 12 personnel or was it running an up tempo offense that let Allen have time to scan the defense and break it down? We've seen the hurry up be effective when Knox was around in the last 3 weeks. A combination of both. It’s clear as day though that Kincaid is the better route runner and better hands. He should be on the field either as a TE or slot WR at all times. 1 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, FireChans said: It sucks that Knox is injured. I like him as a player. But it’s clear that without Knox, we are no longer forcing 12 personnel, which has clearly been holding this offense back. Unfortuantelt, we may see the 12 return when Knox gets healthy because Dorsey is going to have to include him and Kincaid. But the biggest difference tonight was 11 personnel. Dorsey is still Dorsey. this team is just better at 11 as currently constructed. It wasn’t that much better in the end, I think it just felt like that because they got off to a better start. They had 3 tremendous opportunities to kill the game in the 4th and came up empty on all of those drives. Make no mistake, this offense still has big problems. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 They were finally able to utilize Kincaid the way we all envisioned things when he was drafted. This kid is a weapon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Kinkaid is our 2nd best threat. shakir was great. both guys got more time and targets with Knox out. I don’t think that’s a coincidence 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 They only scored 24 points 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 27, 2023 Author Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: It wasn’t that much better in the end, I think it just felt like that because they got off to a better start. They had 3 tremendous opportunities to kill the game in the 4th and came up empty on all of those drives. Make no mistake, this offense still has big problems. Getting off to a better start is hugely important lol, did you watch the last 3 weeks? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Whatever it was, whatever it is, the Bills offense looked great. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, WEATHER DOT COM said: They only scored 24 points Timid coach and turnover hurt us. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I think the best is a healthy mix of 11p and 12p after Knox comes back, but definitely favoring 11p. Knox is a good blocker and they should just have him catch those dump offs Kincaid was getting earlier in the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, Araiza Curse said: Timid coach and turnover hurt us. That also hurts us when 12 personnel is run. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Getting off to a better start is hugely important lol, did you watch the last 3 weeks? Sure, but then our last 3 drives just took the place of 1st quarter incompetence. A top offense on what’s supposed to be a SB contender has to kill the game on one of those drives. There’s still a lot wrong here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) Offense looked like they have that electric factor back with 11 and/or up-tempo. The stalled drives up 14 were frustrating, but on one of them we got absolutely screwed by the non-Offside call. Still .. they have to be more effective and not have these lulls. Edited October 27, 2023 by SCBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 27, 2023 Author Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: Sure, but then our last 3 drives just took the place of 1st quarter incompetence. A top offense on what’s supposed to be a SB contender has to kill the game on one of those drives. There’s still a lot wrong here. That’s why I said Dorsey is still Dorsey. We didn’t see the Bills put up 10 points through 55 minutes tonight. That’s an improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, WEATHER DOT COM said: They only scored 24 points The most points the Bucs have allowed this year is 25. This was a good game from the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, gobills404 said: The most points the Bucs have allowed this year is 25. This was a good game from the offense. Agree. This offense was nowhere near good enough though to confirm it’s better with Knox on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Josh was calling way more audibles and seemed to be really fired up He should have called an audible to sneak it for a TD. Why in the world would he not override a hand off call to Murray there? Allen has to know anything INSIDE the one yard line has to be a QB sneak. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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